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Elendar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.11.13 14:11:00 - [1] Originally by: Mioelnir Reposting the math from the other thread because it kinda got lost in there: Quote: Ok, after a bit of math, it looks like when CCP Nozh called them anti-capital ships, he in fact meant anti-supercapital. Because the paper DPS do not hold up against normal capitals. As the mythbusters would say: "reality makes for a poor special effects crew". In this spirit, let's do a reality check: Supercarriers with 3500m explosion radius (ER) on their fighter bombers: - Aeon, Nyx, Wyvern Supercarriers with 2187.5m explosion radius (ER) on their fighter bombers: - Hel (carrier skill 5) Target 1: Naglfar with 3x Lg CDFE I, In Siege, 1886m sig, 0m/s velocity: - Damage applied, 3500m ER: 53.88% (DPS: 4800 -> 2586.24)(Nyx: 6000 -> 3232.8) - Damage applied, 2187m ER: 86.21% (DPS: 4800 -> 4138.08) Target 2: Naglfar with 3x Lg CDFE I, Full Thrust, 1886m sig, 106m/s velocity: - Damage applied, 3500m ER: 19.69% (DPS: 4800 -> 945.12)(Nyx: 6000 -> 1181.4) - Damage applied, 2187m ER: 33.03% (DPS: 4800 -> 1585.44) Target 3: Nidhoggur, Standstill, 2865m sig, 0m/s velocity: - Damage applied, 3500m ER: 81.8% (DPS: 4800 -> 3926.4)(Nyx: 6000 -> 4908) - Damage applied, 2187m ER: 100% (DPS: 4800) Target 4: Nidhoggur, Full Thrust, 2865m sig, 112.5m/s velocity: - Damage applied, 3500m ER: 29.19% (DPS: 4800 -> 1401.12)(Nyx: 6000 -> 1751.4) - Damage applied, 2187m ER: 48.97% (DPS: 4800 -> 2350.56) Target 5: Hel, Standstill or Full Thrust: - Damage applied, 3500m ER: 100% - Damage applied, 2187m ER: 100% Target 6: Ragnarok, Standstill or Full Thrust, With or Without -37.5% sig bonus: - Damage applied, 3500m ER: 100% - Damage applied, 2187m ER: 100% Missile Damage formula used: latest version of Stafen's formula, http://www.eve-search.com/thread/901280/page/3 thanks for the Hel's new bonus, beats the fighter resistance once maybe the DPS fighter bombers really apply against normal capitals could be nudged a bit from where they are now in the direction of the PR flyer values (4800/6000 -- 7200/9000). A reduction to 20% of the paper dps is what one would expect them to inflict against a Tier 3 bs, not a capital. Nice to see that 'anticapital' supercarriers can't even hit a seiged dread properly. Thats pretty good balancing right there. Nerfing fighterbomber numbers is bad, but why nerf normal fighters/drones with it? do that and a single passive tanked hic will laugh off your dps and pin you down for an entire fight. yay. Also if you really do decide to nerf cost down as much as you say PL could afford to replace its entire dread fleet with a supercarrier fleet. Is fleets of 70+ of these things RRing each other and generally being utterly invulnerable what you really want? Imagine 2 fleets like this. Pretty fast they will smartbomb each others fighter bombers down and they will be able to tank anything that can be thrown at them with ease.

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