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Svarek University of Caille Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:17:00 - [31] - Quote THE L0CK wrote: Svarek wrote: Besides, I doubt any of us are here (or I hope we aren't) to make cyber-sex-buddies, so the sex of the avatar shouldn't be that important. If you get to know the person to the point where it'd make a difference, you would know the difference, I should think. Once when I was online in my dwarf clan, I met a level 41 dwarf named Cindy and we fell in love despite her being below my status. I would send her poetry about warcraft and she would edit it for me. As my wife works a hundred and eighty hour week, this gave me plenty of opportunity to organise a liaison with Cindy in real life. After arranging to meet, I packed my dwarf costume and battle axe and used my wife's credit card to buy a bus ticket to the town Cindy lived in. As it turned out, Cindy was actually a real dwarf. And a man. We still made love so as not to waste the money I had spent but I left feeling deceived and only partly satisfied. Why can't people just be honest? I know, man, it tears me up inside every time I hear stories like this. It really does. Grandpa Bill: "I remember my uncle Joe who used to go mining, back then it was easy to get black lung, but we called it coughing lung because we really didnt care what color it was, the coughing seemed like it should be in the title since he did so much of it."
Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 189	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:20:00 - [32] - Quote Because of this Gallente is what America believes itself to be. Caldari is how America is in reality.
Bane Nucleus The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost 66	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:21:00 - [33] - Quote I call males that have female avatars "netvestites". But, like the OP states, I don't really understand it either. If you want to watch decent looking females, go watch ** or the Brazilian Women's Beach Volleyball Team. Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter**
Mildew Wolf Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:22:00 - [34] - Quote i too am deeply disturbed by this phenomenon
Ituhata Saken Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 254	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:23:00 - [35] - Quote Mildew Wolf wrote: i too am deeply disturbed by this phenomenon A like for a disturbingly appropriate avatar for the situation. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~
Gogela Direct Action LLC. 802	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:26:00 - [36] - Quote In hopes of hearing someone say, just once in their lives, the words "you - look - faaabulous darling..." Just a guess... Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Nyreanya Astrum Research Pina Colada Armada 124	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:26:00 - [37] - Quote It makes your forum posts seem 20% smarter. Edit: misspelling
Bossy Lady Aliastra Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:27:00 - [38] - Quote Spy 21 wrote: To me it seems freakishly weird for a male to run around in a virtual universe with the identity of a hot looking woman... OK, thanks for letting us know about your insecurities. Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
MissyFire Texas Deep Space Apocalypse Now. 2	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:28:00 - [39] - Quote This You just HAD to ask
Gogela Direct Action LLC. 802	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:28:00 - [40] - Quote Nyreanya wrote: It makes your forum posts seem 20% smarter. Edit: misspelling Women. Amiright? (just kidding ladies) Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items

Ituhata Saken Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 255	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:28:00 - [41] - Quote Nyreanya wrote: It makes your forum posts seem 20% smarter. Edit: misspelling Camoflauge fail. Gogela wrote: In hopes of hearing someone say, just once in their lives, the words "you - look - faaabulous darling..." Just a guess... I'm usually looking for "Show me your ****..." You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 189	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:29:00 - [42] - Quote The assumption that this is a male only action is also foolish. I have met a few women who use male avatars. Generally, they maje the similar arguments such as easier on the eyes, what they prefer, etc. The one more common argument is that it also reduces harassment from the same guys that hit on any female avatar Funny how those who complain about men using female avatars never seem to complain about women using male avatars. I also have to wonder, these people who insist that you play an avatar of matching gender, what happens in a game like diablo 2 where classes are locked to gender? There if you wished to be a mage, your main option was the sorceress. Spear or now users had to be the amazon. Do these people refuse to play certain classes then?
Bill Loney Hedion University Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:30:00 - [43] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: My Jita alt is female, but thats only because of eye candy when trading. This +1 I mean would you like staring at mine or brooks ugly mug all day :p
Laucian Aramil Sonic Industries Combative Industrialists Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:30:00 - [44] - Quote Allowing for the perceived ratio of men vs women in game, if everyone played their own gender it would apparently be a sausage fest of a game. imho, women play female characters as a badge of pride. Guys that play female characters are exploring in some way. I have three female alts cause i wanted to explore the portrait generator and avatar options. Only one remains active atm as a second char on this account. Only log into her to shuffle ISK or haul stuff from Jita or wherever.
Svarek University of Caille Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:30:00 - [45] - Quote You know, for a while, I considered playing as a female character or roleplaying as a female something that wasn't exactly normal. I thought about it for a bit, let a few years pass, and realized that it's actually pretty normal for anybody. If you're a heterosexual male and like girls, you have an interest in girls. And that from that interest, you'd find it enjoyable to play or roleplay female characters. Obviously there's the people who try to pretend to be girls through-and-through online, but they're the vastly minor minority compared to the rest of people who are simply playing female characters. If you want to be psychologically complex about it, you could say that it's either "acting out fantasies" (which I find unlikely), or expressing an interest in a potentially healthy way - trying to understand women, or... whatever. The same could also go for girls playing male characters, though I don't know how often that happens. I've known of a few cases. I'm not sure how much BS I'm spouting off now. I used to have a more thorough runthrough of this somewhere in my head, but it's apparently been pushed out in the last few years. It made more sense. Grandpa Bill: "I remember my uncle Joe who used to go mining, back then it was easy to get black lung, but we called it coughing lung because we really didnt care what color it was, the coughing seemed like it should be in the title since he did so much of it."
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 1142	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:30:00 - [46] - Quote This applies expecially to games where you see the avatar but also (in much less amount) to EvE: "If I have to stare for years at a back and a butt, it's better they are pretty to look at". Also, females can be beautiful, I like "biologic art". Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Victoria Shi Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS 0	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:32:00 - [47] - Quote I have a female avatar and I'm a man. I don't really see what the big deal is to be honest (and why everyone automatically assumes something is wrong with you). There's only two choices, and if all your characters look the same it gets boring! I am going to make another character who is male, but I'll keep my primary character female because... why not? And to all the people who message me in game and act like I'm a chick, remember: Internet rule 30 - No girls on the internet.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2013	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:32:00 - [48] - Quote Every hero needs a fan club comprised of attractive female alts. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point. Also, I can kill you with my brain.
Spy 21 Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage 90	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:32:00 - [49] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: The assumption that this is a male only action is also foolish. I have met a few women who use male avatars. Generally, they maje the similar arguments such as easier on the eyes, what they prefer, etc. The one more common argument is that it also reduces harassment from the same guys that hit on any female avatar Funny how those who complain about men using female avatars never seem to complain about women using male avatars. I also have to wonder, these people who insist that you play an avatar of matching gender, what happens in a game like diablo 2 where classes are locked to gender? There if you wished to be a mage, your main option was the sorceress. Spear or now users had to be the amazon. Do these people refuse to play certain classes then? Oh my God .... so some of those dudes I shared my stories with might have actually been chicks? S "The next time airport security tells you to put your hands over your head and hold that vulnerable position for seven seconds, ask yourself: Is this the posture of a free man?"
Ituhata Saken Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 255	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:32:00 - [50] - Quote Startlingly relevant http://youtu.be/3od9aUtrcz4?t=6m33s You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~

Makkal Hanaya Drakenburg 15	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:33:00 - [51] - Quote Though EVE is not an RPG, there does seem to be an element of crafting a persona separate from oneself. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
Cutout Man Archimedean Point 29	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:34:00 - [52] - Quote I create alts randomly. Random race, gender, and customization options. Except this one. Needed the hood for the name.
Price Check Aisle3 74	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:40:00 - [53] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: The one more common argument is that it also reduces harassment from the same guys that hit on any female avatar It'd be interesting to know whether this cuts down on the perceived sexual harassment and gender privilege within the game, simply because you can never be sure who's got a *** and who's got a ***. ofc, there's the other side of the argument, women being exposed to all these blatant adolescent male fantasies.
Factor Fett Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:41:00 - [54] - Quote Is the only woman that does exactly what I say.
stoicfaux 1091	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:41:00 - [55] - Quote Spy 21 wrote: To me it seems freakishly weird for a male to run around in a virtual universe with the identity of a hot looking woman... Because in most MMOs you run around with a 3rd person, over the shoulder camera view that highlights your toon's butt when running. I, for one, would rather look at something pretty while mindlessly running around grinding quests/missions/whatnot. Quote: Maybe it's just my upbringing in an older and now outdated world but it just seems to me like playing dress up on a Saturday night and trolling the seamier parts of town. Repressing something? Is there a reason why you chose the words "identity", "playing dress up", "trolling ... seamier parts"? Most normal folks would have used the words toon/avatar/character instead of "identity," "outfitting your character" instead of "playing dress up," and "questing" or "mission running" instead of "trolling the seamier parts of town." Your use of first person grammar isn't a good sign either, and the phrase "upbringing in an older and now outdated world" just screams childhood societal issues. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Ioci Bad Girl Posse 183	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:41:00 - [56] - Quote Laucian Aramil wrote: Only log into her to shuffle ISK or haul stuff from Jita or wherever. You are doing what I do. You see your avatars in 3rd party. I've had this conversation on the forums before. I don't see Ioci as me, the guy at the keyboard. I see her and all my Avatars as actors in an interactive media movie that I am the director of. Having Heroine main characters as opposed to having Hero main characters isn't difficult for me. I don't see women as a lesser gender and I actually have a Matriarchal faith system. Having a female cast in my Online adventures is quite easy for me. I roll males as well but the mains are always Heroine's. Chances are if you don't see Ioci, that MMO is not going to be on my hardrive for very long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk Save Derpy!
Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 189	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:42:00 - [57] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: Because of this ^pretty sure I already answered this thread. Gallente is what America believes itself to be. Caldari is how America is in reality.
Makkal Hanaya Drakenburg 15	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:47:00 - [58] - Quote While your answer might be self-evident to you, I'm not sure what you're attempting to communicate. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
Svarek University of Caille Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:48:00 - [59] - Quote I believe he means to infer that people are easily influenced by concept art they may or may not have seen before. Grandpa Bill: "I remember my uncle Joe who used to go mining, back then it was easy to get black lung, but we called it coughing lung because we really didnt care what color it was, the coughing seemed like it should be in the title since he did so much of it."
Indahmawar Fazmarai 769	Posted - 2012.06.05 20:49:00 - [60] - Quote "You are going see it a lot, so better be something nice to look at". That's why i use female avatars in most of my games. And in the case of EVE, they're quite nice to look at... It's a glitch! EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it.



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