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Shocker Steg
Amarr
Serenity Of Lost Souls
United Royal Dreams
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Posted - 2009.09.17 08:15:00 -
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Hi all,
I'm pretty proud on my first succesfull scan on this complex last night and when I entered it to clear it it was already being cleaned out by someone else unfortunatly, but I was happy anyway cleaning up the wrecks.
While I was cleaning up I noticed some nice Omber roids. Now I had 1 problem here mining those away, with maximum a cruiser size hull to go in.. I had an arbi for mining that I could enter but a hulk wouldn't go through and neither my haulers.. How would you go about mining such a complex? Or is it just too much fuzz to even try?
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Thenoran
Caldari
Pelican.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 09:37:00 -
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If you're looking for Omber, you should try Exploration (fitting a Core Probe Launcher and Core Probes to scan systems).
Omber itself isn't worth a lot of ISK currently due to the appaling value of Isogen (being only 40-50 ISK rather than 120-130).
Any Gravimetric site you come across in High-sec can have Omber and most do because its the lowest/easiest ore to find.
Alternatively, you can go to Gallente space and mine Omber in the belts there (0.7 or lower).
You could also try wormholes, but you get Arkonor there which is far superior.
Mining in missions is only worth it if there is no acceleration gate (e.g. you can warp straight to the roids).
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Shocker Steg
Amarr
Serenity Of Lost Souls
United Royal Dreams
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:09:00 -
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it isn't about what type of ore you actually find there that you could mine but the "obstruction" to do it effectivly coz you can't enter with decent ships to either mine or ship the ore off to station.
But I understand from your post that this type of sites isn't worth the trouble to mine in.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr
Lollipops for Rancors
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:46:00 -
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One way to do it would be to cruiser mine and jet can it. Keep swapping the jet cans over to keep them alive. Then when you finish BM the cans so when you warp out and the site despawns you can warp back in with a hauler and collect the cans.
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syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:49:00 -
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Leave the mining to grav sites, and Omber isn't that hot at the moment :(
Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:59:00 -
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Omber is the second most worthless ore in the game. Even Spodumain is better.
The Rogue Drone Infestation complex does have lots of veldspar though. This mission can be easily mined out with cruisers (Ospreys, for example), and tier 2 haulers. This will not be as productive as mining with a Hulk and an Orca backing you up, but it can be done.
You'd be better off pestering level 2 mission agents for "Break Their Will".
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Shocker Steg
Amarr
Serenity Of Lost Souls
United Royal Dreams
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Mara Rinn
Omber is the second most worthless ore in the game. Even Spodumain is better.
As i said before it isn't about what type of ore you find there but on how to sircumvent the acc gate obstruction.
Originally by: Mara Rinn
The Rogue Drone Infestation complex does have lots of veldspar though. This mission can be easily mined out with cruisers (Ospreys, for example), and tier 2 haulers. This will not be as productive as mining with a Hulk and an Orca backing you up, but it can be done.
You'd be better off pestering level 2 mission agents for "Break Their Will".
Tier 2 hauler... you mean Badger MkII? it could not enter...
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Lord Helghast
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:43:00 -
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its depressing when f*cking veldspar is worth more refined than every other mineral in highsec almost, i mean serious wtf's with the isogen prices!
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Thenoran
Caldari
Pelican.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Thenoran on 17/09/2009 17:21:17
Originally by: Shocker Steg
As i said before it isn't about what type of ore you find there but on how to sircumvent the acc gate obstruction.
You can't circumvent the Acceleration gate, it's either there or it isn't.
Some missions though such as Break Their Will or Cargo Delivery will have plenty of Veldspar/Scordite to mine with no Accel gate.
The best one I know about for such mining is Gone Berserk.
Lvl 3 version of it has
Veldspar - 47 asteroids (1,659,846)
Plagioclase - 30 asteroids (813,864)
Pyroxeres - 16 asteroids (479,979)
Lvl 4 version has
Veldspar - 86 asteroids (3,142,156)
Up to you if you want to mine it.
For Omber, there's Rogue Slave Traders (2 of 2, first room) with 8 Omber roids containing a total of 400k Omber (8x50k).
It's against Blood Raiders so you'll need an Amarr agent I suppose.
A list of mineable missions can be found here.
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Celia Therone
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Posted - 2009.09.18 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Omber is the second most worthless ore in the game. Even Spodumain is better.
Raw omber is required to complete the level 3 storyline mission Materials for War Preparation. As such it can, depending heavily on location and circumstance, be one of the most profitable ores to mine.
Mining it in missions is the way to go though.
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Bellac
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Posted - 2009.09.18 06:30:00 -
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Edited by: Bellac on 18/09/2009 06:34:04
You need to take your chances on mining plexes. Some like rogue drone make things a bit tricky for you (and probably not worth the logistic effort), others are much more profitable.
I found the same plex in 2 neighbouring high sec systems the other week and was pleased to find the first room had veld, jasp and hemo (enough to make it worth the effort, and the second room had 350k plag 1 mill veld and nearly 100k omber. It was a rat lookout IIRC. pretty well any ship you want you can get in this one - we took an orca and hulks and mined the lot.
AFAIK the only real logistic problem with mining in plexes (which are not grav sites) is making sure you dont pop the plex before you want to. Some (especially arch and hack sites)can pop once you clear the rats and and analyse the cans - so you need to keep a player in the site to be safe if there is plenty of ore to be mined.
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Shocker Steg
Amarr
Serenity Of Lost Souls
United Royal Dreams
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Posted - 2009.09.18 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bellac
Edited by: Bellac on 18/09/2009 06:34:04
AFAIK the only real logistic problem with mining in plexes (which are not grav sites) is making sure you dont pop the plex before you want to. Some (especially arch and hack sites)can pop once you clear the rats and and analyse the cans - so you need to keep a player in the site to be safe if there is plenty of ore to be mined.
Yeah I had this covered with an Alt.
On a side note I did find a grav site last night.. only a small but still, which I cleared out.
If I encounter anymore plexes with acc gates and restrictions I'll try to weigh the pros and cons n the logistical part first before I attempt anything :)
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.09.18 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Celia Therone
Raw omber is required to complete the level 3 storyline mission Materials for War Preparation. As such it can, depending heavily on location and circumstance, be one of the most profitable ores to mine.
The catch there is that the market for Omber is saturated, and the moment you plonk a sell order in a storyline station someone else wil come along and undercut you by 0.01 ISK/unit.
Then you have to consider the volume of ore a typical miner will be dealing with. At the end of a typical mining operation, I will be sending an Orca load of minerals to market. Those minerals will sell very quickly, so the profit of raw omber in small quantities is quickly overshadowed by the profit of processed minerals in vast quantities that I can mine up in the same time.
If I spent a couple of hours mining omber, I'd have enough ore to flood the market in a region for a month. If I spent the same time mining plagioclase or scordite I'd have minerals which would sell in a matter of days.
Certainly if I accidentally mined some omber I'd save a few thousand units for the L3 storyline missions, if I could be bothered shipping it to the storyline station and babysitting the sell order.
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