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Elita
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Posted - 2004.10.22 19:42:00 -
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EVE is the only MMORPG I've ever played, so I don't have the same frame of reference as most of the people who responded to this thread, but I certainly don't see how this game could be considered a flop.
This game has a functional economy! Players mine, sell the minerals, use them to build items, and buy those items. I'm sure there must be economic nudges from the devs occasionally, but the system, as a whole, works. That fact alone indicates that EVE is a success, no matter how big its player base may be.
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Elita
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Posted - 2004.10.22 19:42:00 -
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EVE is the only MMORPG I've ever played, so I don't have the same frame of reference as most of the people who responded to this thread, but I certainly don't see how this game could be considered a flop.
This game has a functional economy! Players mine, sell the minerals, use them to build items, and buy those items. I'm sure there must be economic nudges from the devs occasionally, but the system, as a whole, works. That fact alone indicates that EVE is a success, no matter how big its player base may be.
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StinkFinger
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:39:00 -
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He's a noob that was ***** slapped by a pirate. He's just ****ed.
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StinkFinger
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:39:00 -
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He's a noob that was ***** slapped by a pirate. He's just ****ed.
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Badshah
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:54:00 -
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I think EVE is the best game I've ever played. I collect PC games- have hundreds of them- but very few stand out. EVE it at the top of the list. I also never felt like starting off was so bad, like you hear tale of. I am also a veteran of A Tale In The Desert. I played for about a year, to the end of the first telling. Sometimes I miss that game in the way you miss a person. I will hear a song, or something else will remind me, and I get misty...
But! I can only give myself to one game at a time, and it's time for EVE. It was actually an article in the ATITD forums that linked to a player story in the EVE forum that brought me in. The EVE players description of the game, in telling his tale, made me too curious.
Oh, yeah the guys a idiot that wrote that article. If EVE is a flop Im a dingo! BTW, the endless running, running, running in ATITD makes the endless warping much more bearable. 
Just me,
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Badshah
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:54:00 -
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I think EVE is the best game I've ever played. I collect PC games- have hundreds of them- but very few stand out. EVE it at the top of the list. I also never felt like starting off was so bad, like you hear tale of. I am also a veteran of A Tale In The Desert. I played for about a year, to the end of the first telling. Sometimes I miss that game in the way you miss a person. I will hear a song, or something else will remind me, and I get misty...
But! I can only give myself to one game at a time, and it's time for EVE. It was actually an article in the ATITD forums that linked to a player story in the EVE forum that brought me in. The EVE players description of the game, in telling his tale, made me too curious.
Oh, yeah the guys a idiot that wrote that article. If EVE is a flop Im a dingo! BTW, the endless running, running, running in ATITD makes the endless warping much more bearable.
Just me,
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:55:00 -
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Flops such as Earth and Beyond, Eve Online, and AsheronĘs Call 2 are perfect examples of what could be considered lacking in the kindest of terms. An MMRPG should combine adventure, strategy, risk, community, and economy into a synergy that keeps us glued to our seats despite a growling stomach or nagging girlfriend.
Hmmm am I missing something? I'm sure Eve Online has all those listed in various forms. Its simple, the author is biased and does not have the actual facts. I doubt he even played Eve, the jackass
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:55:00 -
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Quote:
Flops such as Earth and Beyond, Eve Online, and AsheronĘs Call 2 are perfect examples of what could be considered lacking in the kindest of terms. An MMRPG should combine adventure, strategy, risk, community, and economy into a synergy that keeps us glued to our seats despite a growling stomach or nagging girlfriend.
Hmmm am I missing something? I'm sure Eve Online has all those listed in various forms. Its simple, the author is biased and does not have the actual facts. I doubt he even played Eve, the jackass
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Leipuri
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:59:00 -
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Here's my newbie 2 cents.
I have played eve some weeks and i can tell that i am staying. I have tried lot of other mmorpgs and i can say that how good mmorpg will become depens 50% of community and 50% the game itself. Game that got community that have lot of griefers and cheaters wount last long even if it got lot nice game play elements and graphics. Personally i have never seen such good community than i have seen in eve so far. Sure there is some "bad apples", but no mmopg can avoid these.
Players in eve actually need to interract with other players to "success" instead going solo looking for correct level frog that give xp and loot for your level so you can grid to next level.
Soon we get Shiva and player owned bases along with other features are going to just add this level of interacting with players, be it war, alliance or what ever.
Last but least eve is far from small. One server that is holding 11k players at peaks without problem while lot of other mmorpgs usually have 3k per server. So total subscribe number isnt much as some most popular mmorpgs, but these games usually have lot of servers which split community.
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Leipuri
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Posted - 2004.10.22 20:59:00 -
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Here's my newbie 2 cents.
I have played eve some weeks and i can tell that i am staying. I have tried lot of other mmorpgs and i can say that how good mmorpg will become depens 50% of community and 50% the game itself. Game that got community that have lot of griefers and cheaters wount last long even if it got lot nice game play elements and graphics. Personally i have never seen such good community than i have seen in eve so far. Sure there is some "bad apples", but no mmopg can avoid these.
Players in eve actually need to interract with other players to "success" instead going solo looking for correct level frog that give xp and loot for your level so you can grid to next level.
Soon we get Shiva and player owned bases along with other features are going to just add this level of interacting with players, be it war, alliance or what ever.
Last but least eve is far from small. One server that is holding 11k players at peaks without problem while lot of other mmorpgs usually have 3k per server. So total subscribe number isnt much as some most popular mmorpgs, but these games usually have lot of servers which split community.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.10.22 21:38:00 -
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eve pwns, any mmorpg where I have to type /msg Buddy is stupidly lame.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.10.22 21:38:00 -
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eve pwns, any mmorpg where I have to type /msg Buddy is stupidly lame.
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Decairn
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Posted - 2004.10.23 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtball
eve pwns, any mmorpg where I have to type /msg Buddy is stupidly lame.
Have you tried /tell type game communication? I've used them on MUDs and EQ for many years. It rocks. In fact, it makes communication so easy that it enables the social side of the game that much easier, which in turn sells more accounts. By comparison, EVE's method blows and I hate it.
And as to the original article, EVE is hardly unsuccessful. It is in fact getting more accounts month by month. It is the most far-reaching and ambitious gameworld in place today. But that's probably it's problem, many people don't get it.
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Decairn
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Posted - 2004.10.23 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtball
eve pwns, any mmorpg where I have to type /msg Buddy is stupidly lame.
Have you tried /tell type game communication? I've used them on MUDs and EQ for many years. It rocks. In fact, it makes communication so easy that it enables the social side of the game that much easier, which in turn sells more accounts. By comparison, EVE's method blows and I hate it.
And as to the original article, EVE is hardly unsuccessful. It is in fact getting more accounts month by month. It is the most far-reaching and ambitious gameworld in place today. But that's probably it's problem, many people don't get it.
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Karazaan
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Posted - 2004.10.23 00:33:00 -
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Or put in another view, he is working marketting, he tell what WOW will have that EQ don't, but a undisputable failure (because it's closed, not because it was not good) E&B and then why not strike innocently the BEST Online Game out there to TRY to bring some more potential buyer to WOW? What have 2 space sim online game have to do with Wow anyway? Sure WOW can be fun, but why bash others to try to bring it on top? No need unless something is lacking in it's offering...
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Karazaan
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Posted - 2004.10.23 00:33:00 -
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Or put in another view, he is working marketting, he tell what WOW will have that EQ don't, but a undisputable failure (because it's closed, not because it was not good) E&B and then why not strike innocently the BEST Online Game out there to TRY to bring some more potential buyer to WOW? What have 2 space sim online game have to do with Wow anyway? Sure WOW can be fun, but why bash others to try to bring it on top? No need unless something is lacking in it's offering...
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Maliko
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:09:00 -
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There is only ONE reason why I play EVE over all other MMOG's. That is that the players are not separated on different servers. All of EVE's players are playing in the same 'universe'. Whereas other MMOG's, the players are seperated out between different servers, like SWG. Eve is the only TRUE MMOG because of this.
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Maliko
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:09:00 -
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There is only ONE reason why I play EVE over all other MMOG's. That is that the players are not separated on different servers. All of EVE's players are playing in the same 'universe'. Whereas other MMOG's, the players are seperated out between different servers, like SWG. Eve is the only TRUE MMOG because of this.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: maGz
He put eve next in line with Earth and Beyond 
They share the same history:
Start off as most promising game, then nerf the **** out of it... And people leave.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: maGz
He put eve next in line with Earth and Beyond
They share the same history:
Start off as most promising game, then nerf the **** out of it... And people leave.
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Maliko
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:11:00 -
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Also, as a marketing dev said earlier. Eve's 'true' release will be when shiva is released as there will be increased marketing out there in the U.S. and Europe for the game. So Eve's playerbase will continue to grow.
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Maliko
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:11:00 -
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Also, as a marketing dev said earlier. Eve's 'true' release will be when shiva is released as there will be increased marketing out there in the U.S. and Europe for the game. So Eve's playerbase will continue to grow.
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Turyleon Caddarn
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Maliko
Also, as a marketing dev said earlier. Eve's 'true' release will be when shiva is released as there will be increased marketing out there in the U.S. and Europe for the game. So Eve's playerbase will continue to grow.
agreed.
big games like SWG and WoW get released on multiple continents at the same time, which is what probably gives them the big subscibors right from the start. Bearing in mind that in most other mmorpgs, big sections of the game are overrun with people from Asia, making ingame currency and sellign it on ebay to make RL wages, im glad that's not happening in eve.
"I know this game, it's called Cat and Mouse. There's only one way to win......... Don't be the mouse." |
Turyleon Caddarn
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Maliko
Also, as a marketing dev said earlier. Eve's 'true' release will be when shiva is released as there will be increased marketing out there in the U.S. and Europe for the game. So Eve's playerbase will continue to grow.
agreed.
big games like SWG and WoW get released on multiple continents at the same time, which is what probably gives them the big subscibors right from the start. Bearing in mind that in most other mmorpgs, big sections of the game are overrun with people from Asia, making ingame currency and sellign it on ebay to make RL wages, im glad that's not happening in eve.
"I know this game, it's called Cat and Mouse. There's only one way to win......... Don't be the mouse." |
Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:31:00 -
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just to nit pick slightly....
ATITD also has only 1 server as well.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.10.23 01:31:00 -
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just to nit pick slightly....
ATITD also has only 1 server as well.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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ruro
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Posted - 2004.10.23 02:45:00 -
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Hah, if EVE had a million subscribers, I imagine they'd (CCP) ramp up the cluster hardware considerably. I'm sure it's a scalable setup, so they'd just buy/build more server nodes untill load was sufficiently low.
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ruro
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Posted - 2004.10.23 02:45:00 -
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Hah, if EVE had a million subscribers, I imagine they'd (CCP) ramp up the cluster hardware considerably. I'm sure it's a scalable setup, so they'd just buy/build more server nodes untill load was sufficiently low.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.10.23 02:57:00 -
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Hell, just imagine the fighting over 0.0 regions with 1,000,000 subscriptions. The map would be one big red blob, constantly.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.10.23 02:57:00 -
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Hell, just imagine the fighting over 0.0 regions with 1,000,000 subscriptions. The map would be one big red blob, constantly.
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