It's simple: there's no profit to be made. Only ones profiting from this event are gankers.

GǪand miners, and manufacturers, and traders, andGǪ wellGǪ everyone.

Catalyst, blaster, blaster ammo, Tornado, arty, EMP L... all prices drop. Where do you see profit?

Most, if not all, of MMOs have a starting area, for eve that is "hi-sec". Unfortunately "Hi-Sec" mutated into something different than what was likely intended and it causes issues between people who live in hi sec, and people who live in low and 0.0 space.

Usually people leave the starting area after a few days, but the mutation of hi sec and the politics of low and 0.0 space doesn't effectively give the players a place to move on to.

So you effectively get people who believe hi-sec shouldn't be so easily infested with criminals, while others believe in the mutated hi sec of which criminals can easily run free.

It's called GÇ£planningGÇ¥.

Again, gankers would profit from that.

Catalyst, blaster, blaster ammo, Tornado, arty, EMP L... all prices drop. Where do you see profit?

Have you looked at ships and min costs recently ?

Yes, mins did go up a lot recently, but now are going down again.

Catalyst and Tornado going down fast.

I was actually looking forward to it, being hunted in highsec would have been fun, because it would have been sort of like nul, except no need to be super involved with your alliance.

Do you see PvP'ers complaining that they have to watch dscan, or align at the right time? Do you see PvP'ers complaining that they lost their shiny ship? (don't be pedantic here, I'm not talking about unfortunate events like lag)

Or is it that only the incompetent miners are here complaining to everyone?

GǪand miners, and manufacturers, and traders, andGǪ wellGǪ everyone.

It seems to me (if I were a miner) I would be happy as hell seeing my competition getting blown up. It's easy to avoid getting ganked by simply moving to some backwater system, or simply paying attention. Using cheaper mining ships with a higher risk vs reward ratio would also ensure I profit from the situation at large. Prices go up, and the miners make more money right?

So why the sh|t-storm? Or is it that only the incompetent miners are here complaining to everyone?

Do you see PvP'ers complaining that they have to watch dscan, or align at the right time? Do you see PvP'ers complaining that they lost their shiny ship? (don't be pedantic here, I'm not talking about unfortunate events like lag)

So what makes you special? The moment any of us undock, you are checking the yes box to pvp. IMO highsec is far too uniform and safe as it is.

Bingo. The serious miners are out there, mining. They are smart enough to minimize risk, and enjoy the current economic situation. End of story.

Smart hisec miners likely have some experience with living in areas outside of hisec. They know how to read local, d-scan, a plethora of other things about combat, egagement, timers, and a better understanding of dynamic traffic flow patterns. They are simply better prepared than their peers in the same career field.

And why should they post and give up their tricks? Nay, you come to the forums to cry, not to give away your trade secrets.

I think mostly it's the violation of the "Empire is relatively safer" idea. Any carebear who plays EVE beyond the first month is reconciled to getting blown up occasionally. (The carebears of EVE are made of stern stuff :) ) But when it's a concerted campaign that's now ongoing, that's something different - then it's edging into something more like schoolyard bullying.

The economic arguments are absolutely correct, Hulkageddon is good for miners and good for the game, but there's also the aspect of the game being a form of relaxation for many players (again, granted that there's always going to be some risk).

Why on earth would such a player still mine?
And admitting it is for the compelling passion for digging, why would he be wasting all this expertise in hi sec for the pittance income? It makes no sense.

All the focus is about blowing up miners in high sec (at least as far as the forums go).

Is this an adversion to actual risk thing, or a total stagnation in nullsec thing, or something else?

Don't play the game AFK. The game is not designed with this kind of play style in mind and you should never consider your ship and character safe and just get up and walk away from your computer.

Most, if not all, of MMOs have a starting area, for eve that is "hi-sec". Unfortunately "Hi-Sec" mutated into something different than what was likely intended and it causes issues between people who live in hi sec, and people who live in low and 0.0 space.

Usually people leave the starting area after a few days, but the mutation of hi sec and the politics of low and 0.0 space doesn't effectively give the players a place to move on to.

So you effectively get people who believe hi-sec shouldn't be so easily infested with criminals, while others believe in the mutated hi sec of which criminals can easily run free.

2. lowsec is viewed to be crap.

This view will never change as long as the current sec status system is in operation. Low sec only benefits pirates and gankers because if some gung ho PVPers decided to go anti-pirate they also lose sec status for removing the threat. So in the current system even if you could convince a mining op to go into low sec their defenders will get criminal flagged unless they await the other guy to fire first.

So people mine mostly in High Sec where in theory there is some minor CONCORD protection, or they go into Null where their defenders can shoot first.(NBSI and all that)


In simple terms, Low Sec will not ever become popular unless Defense does not have to always remain at the disadvantage in doing their job.

It seems to me (if I were a miner) I would be happy as hell seeing my competition getting blown up. It's easy to avoid getting ganked by simply moving to some backwater system, or simply paying attention. Using cheaper mining ships with a higher risk vs reward ratio would also ensure I profit from the situation at large. Prices go up, and the miners make more money right?

So why the sh|t-storm? Or is it that only the incompetent miners are here complaining to everyone?

Do you see PvP'ers complaining that they have to watch dscan, or align at the right time? Do you see PvP'ers complaining that they lost their shiny ship? (don't be pedantic here, I'm not talking about unfortunate events like lag)

So what makes you special? The moment any of us undock, you are checking the yes box to pvp. IMO highsec is far too uniform and safe as it is.

This view will never change as long as the current sec status system is in operation. Low sec only benefits pirates and gankers because if some gung ho PVPers decided to go anti-pirate they also lose sec status for removing the threat. So in the current system even if you could convince a mining op to go into low sec their defenders will get criminal flagged unless they await the other guy to fire first.

So people mine mostly in High Sec where in theory there is some minor CONCORD protection, or they go into Null where their defenders can shoot first.(NBSI and all that)


In simple terms, Low Sec will not ever become popular unless Defense does not have to always remain at the disadvantage in doing their job.

Did you seriously just play the holocaust card for a video game? :/