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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2009.09.18 17:43:00 -
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Sadly it seems that hacking accounts pays off.
A lot of people get there accounts hacked these days. which is very unfortuned
Mostly true the links posted on eve-o ..
CCP made some adjustments on the forum which is good. but still hackers come thru and post there links.
Anyway when you with your ignorance click a linky and get hacked ( like our corp member did ) the trouble starts..
The corp finds out the corp walled has been emptyed and all corp assets have been stolen. you find out both of your accounts got hacked and robbed.
after petitioning several times, your accounts get permanently banned. This until CCP finish there investigation. After along wait CCP confirms your account has been hacked and reopend them.. .
The end of a sweet story.. And you all happely roamed together...
Wrong!.
So CCP can we now get our stuff back please.. ? ( Its all your own fault. your account got hacked.) You as player recieve a message inline like this.
comming down to that your actualy quet a dumb person who ****ed up..
CCP then gives you only a fraction of what you actualy owned in isk
You as a beta player, playing since the begining of 03 made quet a collection of unique items
Stuff which you gathered over all the years .. now all gone..
nothing of it being returned.
being treated like that, losing all your stuff and your unique items. can brake a man..
Sorry to see you go bud. .
G6
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 17:47:00 -
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The person failed to protect themselves and this was the result. CCP should not cater to peoples stupidity as they give them enough warnings as it is.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2009.09.18 17:57:00 -
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It was his own dumb fault, but thanks to CCP, he got some stuff back, which CCP is totally not obliged to do.
If he values his "unique" items more than his friends and quits over it...he either valued those items more than his friends or would have quit soon, anyways, and this just made it happen quicker.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:01:00 -
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Don't allow dumb people who click on links and download keyloggers without thinking into your corp and/or especially not as a director or someone with access to corp wallets.
Accounts may also be hacked by buying ISK illegally.
So, don't buy ISK illegally. Don't click on links on the forums that you don't understand. Don't click on links on the forums looking for pron. Just don't do it, don't let people into your corp who do it, and you will be fine.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:02:00 -
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CCP can't return it as whoever bought it will suffer (and there is no reason why they should) or CCP will have to dupe which is a short road to wrecking the game.
CCP have no choice in the matter.
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Neriel Odershank
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:04:00 -
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 Originally by: baltec1
The person failed to protect themselves and this was the result.
So, in your opinion, when people get robbed is their fault, and not the criminal's fault?
You are a strange guy, honest.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/09/2009 18:10:01
Originally by: Neriel Odershank
Originally by: baltec1
The person failed to protect themselves and this was the result.
So, in your opinion, when people get robbed is their fault, and not the criminal's fault?
You are a strange guy, honest.
Its completely different. A guy robbing you is forcing you to do something. Clicking a link is by choice.
A lot of people on the Internet are like babies. They dont have experience with the "world" (Internet) and needs a long time to get to know it. So they click any link that interest them, just like kids will put their fingers into a wall socket if they feel like it.
Thats a better analogy than getting robbed.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: baltec1 on 18/09/2009 18:11:51
Originally by: Neriel Odershank
Originally by: baltec1
The person failed to protect themselves and this was the result.
So, in your opinion, when people get robbed is their fault, and not the criminal's fault?
You are a strange guy, honest.
Chances of getting that stuff back in real life are slim to none too but the two are different beasts. If I ended up hacked and my nightmare stolen I wouldnt even bother trying to get CCP to replace it because it was my own daft falt and I would just go and earn another one.
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Bjron
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/09/2009 18:08:57
Originally by: Neriel Odershank
Originally by: baltec1
The person failed to protect themselves and this was the result.
So, in your opinion, when people get robbed is their fault, and not the criminal's fault?
You are a strange guy, honest.
Its completely different. A guy robbing you is forcing you to do something. Clicking a link is by choice.
A lot of people on the Internet are like babies. They dont have experience with the "world" (Internet) and needs a long time to get to know it. So they click any link that interest them, just like kids will put their fingers into a wall socket if they feel like it.
you beat me to it.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Neriel Odershank
Originally by: baltec1
The person failed to protect themselves and this was the result.
So, in your opinion, when people get robbed is their fault, and not the criminal's fault?
You are a strange guy, honest.
Read the quote again. It doesn't say what you think it does.
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Angry Poster
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Angry Poster on 18/09/2009 18:53:54
I agree with OP that it sucks very bad not to get the items and ISK back but the problem with such issues in EVE is this:
Hacker steals account, loots it, sells all those sweet unique items to other players. Player B (unknowingly) buys a unique item from the hacker and resells it with large profit. He then uses this ISK to purchase 500mil trit and starts building BS and selling them to countless people. A few days go by and by now CCP got around to the original account owners petition and blocks the account. But by this point the damage is already done - CCP can not go and roll back all those market transactions without rolling back the entire EVE cluster to the point before the hack. Think about it: you buy a BS in Jita and 5 days later CCP suddenly deletes this BS and refunds you the ISK. Unfortunately the price for the BS (or whatever item it was that was rolled back) has changed in price or is no longer available. This would totally screw people up and it would totally destroy trust in the finality of market transactions - god knows, maybe your titan will suddenly be rolled-back to non-existence because the dude that sold the trit had bought it with money he earned by buying an item that the hacker sold.
This means that the only thing CCP could do would be to duplicate all the items that have already changed hands more then once or have been used to produce anything (which in the case of a hack usually happens very quickly I assume - once the stuff was sold off by the hacker it can no longer be moved away from it's new owner without the above mentioned problems). Duplicating items would also create massive problems because it could mean that t2 BPOs, supercaps, deathstars, whatever would suddenly exist twice in EVE without anyone having worked to create the copies. And that is harmful to the economy and also sucks for the players directly (e.g. the hacker sells items to someone in the same alliance as the victim, then CCP copies the stuff that was sold so the victim has zero financial loss. Now the alliance suddenly has double the amount of those items without working twice as hard.)
So basically CCP chooses the solution that affects (and potentially disrupts the gameplay of) the fewest amount of players possible. Usually this means that letting the victim bear the main brunt (and not rolling back nor copying items) is the thing that will harm the economy the least. So thats what they do.
It's same when CCP reimburses a ship loss: they will replace anything that was destroyed - thereby implicitly acknowledging that a bug was responsible for the loss of the craft - but will not reimburse items that dropped and may have been looted by someone. If that one item is a Gist X-Type XL Shield Booster then that can suck big time - but thats the way it is.
In WOW and other MMOs it doesn't make any difference if items are duplicated and thereby replaced for the victim because they don't have a player run economy worthy of that description. If the WOW GM suddenly creates an extra 50k gold (or whatever is a lot in WOW) in to the financial system then that doesn't have any real impact on the economy as a whole. In EVE it would be bad for all of us.
I'm sorry for your corp mate but I doubt CCP will change this policy anytime soon.
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2009.09.22 14:55:00 -
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i guess your right angry poster.
however it truly sucks if you play so long and you lose it all ..
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Laudicia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:09:00 -
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