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Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.20 23:27:00 - [61] Dear Lady Elora Narst, Originally by: Elora Narst (he probably thinks he has a lot of RL money) I'm quite sure i know precisely how much money i have in real life. Be it little or alot, it's not the issue here or your business. Originally by: Elora Narst * the OP does not know anything about game mechanics, which is understandable. What is less understandable is that does not seem too keen to learn. He is not hiding his "I am having fun, don't YOU tell me how to do it" attitude. I'm very keen to learn, and i have been learning alot. Everyone has their own way of learning and it might differ from the way you learned. I was taught to think independently and form my own opinions, i'm not a sheep that follows the masses or does everything like others before me. I'm always open to suggestions, tips and tricks, but if i feel like it i might do things the other way. Originally by: Elora Narst * the idea of "fun" in OP's mind is buying a BIG, BIG ship, and killing smaller things with it. Preferably with a 100% "I-win" rate. Things that might feel fun to you, might feel different for me. It's matter of opinion and taest, i don't think that is relevant here. Another thing is that with my skill points killing small things in BS is not very effective, so i would not put it that way. To me you feel little closed or simple minded. Originally by: Elora Narst * being ruthlessly ganked by other people is not fun to the OP. Even though his supply of ISK is, supposedly, limitless (because he is so rich IRL). Only "winning" is fun. No, you are wrong. It was very exciteing and i did enjoy it. It was my first pvp experience and i really was having fun. Only thing that i got mad about was the insurance. It's not the money, but i tought i was entitled to it. Now i know better. My ISK supply is not limitless, and it is not your business. Originally by: Elora Narst Dear Lord Rolls-Royce, let me clue you in on something. This is a very complex, I would even say, convoluted game. Most people who play it enjoy it precisely for the reason it is so complex. This is just the reason i play eve, i don't like theme park MMO's. Originally by: Elora Narst What you have done is bought some Monopoly money without learning the rules. Then went ahead, and wasted it in one of the dumbest ways possible. This is game, so i don't see anything wrong buying some monopoly money. If you cannot afford it your self, maybe you should work more and playless. I used it as i felt like, and i enjoyed doing it, is that not the point while playing? Do you envy me for doing it? Originally by: Elora Narst Without thinking of any complexity, game mechanics, ship setups, or combat strategy. I'm sorry that i let you down, i will consider these things next time i leave the station. Btw, i did ask about ship setups here on forums and ingame. I read & learn about game mechanics everyday. You just don't seem to understand, that new players don't know as much as you do. Originally by: Elora Narst Then you came to this forum, and stated in not so many words that those things don't matter, because you are just having fun buying expensive stuff. It even comes across a bit like you are bragging about your RL possessions ("they killed me, but I have more where that came from, so the joke is on them"). I don't think like that, sure i have enough money to go and buy new ship and do it again, but i dont think the joke is on them. I actually thanked the pirates for my first pvp experience. Those pirates were polite and even gave me some tips. Originally by: Elora Narst But the joke is on you, dear Lord Ferrari. Yours truly, Elora If you would have read the whole thread and paid attention you would know the system i rat in. I think the joke is on you and your poor attempt to troll in this thread. I will still thank you for the entertainment and amusement your simple minded comments have given me. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Exordium8 Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.09.21 00:10:00 - [62] Originally by: Lord Bentley Troll troll troll THIS IS GAME! --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload. When the going gets tou
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.09.21 00:27:00 - [63] - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Alhambra Trellane Imperium Forces	Posted - 2009.09.21 03:31:00 - [64] Originally by: Lord Bentley Dear Lady Elora Narst, clueless trolling... This thread is the anti-Joe. OP is just as clueless and stubborn, but writes more legibly. Still, the sentiment is the same. "I'm better/richer so STFU," and the ever-popular "No U!" Boring. 0/10
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.21 03:56:00 - [65] So basically the OP missed half the fun of the game by buying all the ISK he'll need, and is now going to waste it? Thats the impression I get. And in case its escaped anyone's attention, to buy and maintain a POS and fly and lose multiple battleships at 2 weeks old requires a lot of ISK. JUST HOW MUCH DID THIS GUY SPEND BUYING TIMECODES? Seriously, its impossible to respect someone who instead of playing the game, blows at least several hundred dollars on game money. I don't see how you can post threads like this and NOT expect to be lambasted by people who actually have to WORK for their ISK and can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars to buy GTCs to sell.
Zorai Miraden Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.21 04:05:00 - [66] As this thread fairly clearly points out the majority of people that visit C&P are Elitist *****s who will flame you for hours for not having basic to mid range Eve knowledge. You'll probably find much kinder treatment in the new players forum. I do however congratulate you on what you've learned so far. If you're able to do everything that you described in your original post for a player that's only been in the game for two weeks then you are doing really well. I might suggest however that if isk really isn't a hurdle for you, which considering you setup may very well be the case then take a look at the character trading forum and pick yourself up a well trained pilot for x billions of isk. BTW I'm not selling any characters. If solo play is your primary style you can pick up a character that pulled off some crazy corp heist, or some character with really bad faction standings for a heafty discount. Recruitment Thread EKT Website
Sanguis Fluibant Amarr The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club	Posted - 2009.09.21 10:15:00 - [67] Originally by: Zorai Miraden As this thread fairly clearly points out the majority of people that visit C&P are Elitist *****s who will flame you for hours for not having basic to mid range Eve knowledge. You'll probably find much kinder treatment in the new players forum. I do however congratulate you on what you've learned so far. If you're able to do everything that you described in your original post for a player that's only been in the game for two weeks then you are doing really well. I might suggest however that if isk really isn't a hurdle for you, which considering you setup may very well be the case then take a look at the character trading forum and pick yourself up a well trained pilot for x billions of isk. BTW I'm not selling any characters. If solo play is your primary style you can pick up a character that pulled off some crazy corp heist, or some character with really bad faction standings for a heafty discount. ahahahahahaha here op you have a friend you two should hook up and make babies
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 12:01:00 - [68] Originally by: Zorai Miraden I might suggest however that if isk really isn't a hurdle for you, which considering you setup may very well be the case then take a look at the character trading forum and pick yourself up a well trained pilot for x billions of isk. BTW I'm not selling any characters. If solo play is your primary style you can pick up a character that pulled off some crazy corp heist, or some character with really bad faction standings for a heafty discount. I could buy a character, but the characters history might bother me. If i buy someones character i cannot be sure, how she / he have behaved in the past. Also i cannot name the character, and i see this as a minus. I was orginally considering buying a hulk pilot to do some mining, now not so sure. Anyway, thanks for the advice. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Nidhiesk	Posted - 2009.09.21 12:24:00 - [69] I know it was said before in here but let me repeat it. Go join a null sec corp to learn about pvp since this is what you liked. Well you did say you liked the wormhole experience. For your own info, wormhole is 0.0 so going in null sec in a corp out there will not be different. its dangerous, full of pvp players and you never know what to expect on the corner. This is the place for you then. its better to spend 200m on pvp learning (starting with smaller ships and that stuff )than lose 1.4b because you did some mistakes here and there.
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 12:33:00 - [70] Originally by: Nidhiesk I know it was said before in here but let me repeat it. Go join a null sec corp to learn about pvp since this is what you liked. Well you did say you liked the wormhole experience. For your own info, wormhole is 0.0 so going in null sec in a corp out there will not be different. its dangerous, full of pvp players and you never know what to expect on the corner. This is the place for you then. its better to spend 200m on pvp learning (starting with smaller ships and that stuff )than lose 1.4b because you did some mistakes here and there. Been thinking about moveing to 0.0, will look into it. I just need to find a good corp to join first, or alliance that accepts my own corp and rents me POS space. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group

War Kitten	Posted - 2009.09.21 12:42:00 - [71] This guy seems awfully familiar... The Late Great Get them into a Player corp and rip them off scam! He enjoys playing with people in the forums and is immune to any practical advice about what he may or may not have done wrong. /thread "Here's your sign." - Bill Engvall
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 13:34:00 - [72] Originally by: War Kitten This guy seems awfully familiar... The Late Great Get them into a Player corp and rip them off scam! He enjoys playing with people in the forums and is immune to any practical advice about what he may or may not have done wrong. /thread You seem to have an IQ of an ameba. I'm not a scammer nor i have anything to do with this poster you mentioned. Crawl back to the hole you came from. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Sanguis Fluibant Amarr The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club	Posted - 2009.09.21 13:39:00 - [73] Originally by: Lord Bentley You seem to have an IQ of an ameba. I'm not a scammer nor i have anything to do with this poster you mentioned. Crawl back to the hole you came from. We only accept bribes here in C&P. You better buy some more GTCs if you want to get anywhere soon
War Kitten	Posted - 2009.09.21 13:47:00 - [74] Originally by: Lord Bentley You seem to have an IQ of an ameba. I'm not a scammer nor i have anything to do with this poster you mentioned. Crawl back to the hole you came from. Replies to every post in his thread... check. Resorts to IQ comparisons... check. Can't spell despite self-perceived brilliance... check. Keep going Mr. Sanderson :) "Here's your sign." - Bill Engvall
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 14:07:00 - [75] Originally by: War Kitten Replies to every post in his thread... check. I think it's good to keep track of your posts and read peoples replies, you might have a different approach to your posts considering the utter nonsense you put out here. Originally by: War Kitten Resorts to IQ comparisons... check. I know this might be dissapointing for you. Originally by: War Kitten Can't spell despite self-perceived brilliance... check. English is not my native language. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.09.21 14:09:00 - [76] Edited by: Lightningshade on 21/09/2009 14:10:39 Edited by: Lightningshade on 21/09/2009 14:09:51 Originally by: Lord Bentley Originally by: War Kitten This guy seems awfully familiar... The Late Great Get them into a Player corp and rip them off scam! He enjoys playing with people in the forums and is immune to any practical advice about what he may or may not have done wrong. /thread You seem to have an IQ of an ameba. I'm not a scammer nor i have anything to do with this poster you mentioned. Crawl back to the hole you came from. War Kitten was merely drawing comparisons, and then all of a sudden you go on the attack. IF you would have read fitting forums, war and tactics etc you would have realised the mistakes you were about to make, before you made them. I would think it prudent that you consider not posting further for a while, consider your response to people on here, and then go ahead with it. Really, this MMO is hard enough to make friends on, and your certainly doing yourself no favours here. This isnt a flame, just advice. However I understand if you find it important to find some way of attacking me know, as is the precident you have set for yourself.
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 14:29:00 - [77] Edited by: Lord Bentley on 21/09/2009 14:29:17 Originally by: Lightningshade Edited by: Lightningshade on 21/09/2009 14:10:39 Edited by: Lightningshade on 21/09/2009 14:09:51 Originally by: Lord Bentley Originally by: War Kitten This guy seems awfully familiar... The Late Great Get them into a Player corp and rip them off scam! He enjoys playing with people in the forums and is immune to any practical advice about what he may or may not have done wrong. /thread You seem to have an IQ of an ameba. I'm not a scammer nor i have anything to do with this poster you mentioned. Crawl back to the hole you came from. War Kitten was merely drawing comparisons, and then all of a sudden you go on the attack. IF you would have read fitting forums, war and tactics etc you would have realised the mistakes you were about to make, before you made them. I would think it prudent that you consider not posting further for a while, consider your response to people on here, and then go ahead with it. Really, this MMO is hard enough to make friends on, and your certainly doing yourself no favours here. This isnt a flame, just advice. However I understand if you find it important to find some way of attacking me know, as is the precident you have set for yourself. If we read your previous replies here, what do you expect? Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Tiaka McKenzie	Posted - 2009.09.21 14:46:00 - [78] Can't see the reason why the OP gets flamed. Yeah he did something stupid, but he already admitted that by himself and don't tried to blame someone else. Most people would have cried a river, but he chatted with the people who killed him. That's a pretty nice attitude, if you ask me and i wish there would be more people like him. And if he has the isk to buy a pos and a few bs, what's the problem? Why do you care? Isn't it his own business? Go on with whatever you like to do Lord Bentley. It's a game, it's made for having fun. If you have fun, you're doing it right.
Nidhiesk	Posted - 2009.09.21 15:06:00 - [79] Edited by: Nidhiesk on 21/09/2009 15:07:46 Bentley, getting in a corp in zero zero is very easy. it just takes good social skills. but getting a pos and operate it while in a zero corp is another thing as you need access to that. Those kinds of access is universal so that should or will create a problem since not every corp should or want to give you access. p.s: CCP fail on that part. if a corp officer gives you access to a pos, the access gives you access to ALL pos's ? doesn't make sense to me but I guess (hope) that will be implemented soon cause its a pain p.s: damn 5 minutes and if you want a good advice, get in a zero corp, wait till they trust you and work to get a pos up and running
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 16:04:00 - [80] Thanks for the advice and warm words to both of you. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group

Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.21 17:54:00 - [81] Originally by: Lord Bentley Yes, i was kind of expecting this. Like most of us know, if someone gets something easier or more than the other, there will be trouble. Children act like this, and it is normal. As more mature posters we need to understand the immature posters. It can be hard, but we can do it. No. I just stated that its a difficult to respect an adult who blows several hundred dollars (or his local equivalent) on virtual game currency, when earning that currency is supposed to be part of the fun.
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:07:00 - [82] Originally by: Uronksur Suth Originally by: Lord Bentley Yes, i was kind of expecting this. Like most of us know, if someone gets something easier or more than the other, there will be trouble. Children act like this, and it is normal. As more mature posters we need to understand the immature posters. It can be hard, but we can do it. No. I just stated that its a difficult to respect an adult who blows several hundred dollars (or his local equivalent) on virtual game currency, when earning that currency is supposed to be part of the fun. Different strokes for different folks. It's fun for you, but might be different for me. Something that is supposed to be part of the fun, is not always fun for everyone. You assume too much. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Ran Khanon Amarr The Phantom Acolytes	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:20:00 - [83] Originally by: Uronksur Suth when earning that currency is supposed to be part of the fun. For some it is. For me as well. I love the sense of accomplishment when building up everything myself and reaping the rewards and I have never bought ingame currency in any mmorpg ever even when I have plenty of cash irl and could have saved myself huge grinds to finally be competitive. But not everyone is like that, Uron. We shouldn't look down on those with other preferences. The guy is enjoying the game, that is what counts. Everyone screws up a few times, (I know I did, lol) it is part of the learning process and the more isk you have while still learning the game, the bigger your screw ups will be. So far he earned my respect by being very reasonable in replying to some very prejudiced posters. Bentley, I would do the following in your case; buy a load of frigs, cruisers and maybe a few battlecruisers and a cheap battleship, fit them for pvp, ship them to your nearest militia hub and join factional warfare for a month (or longer if you like). You might wanna join a FW corp as well and join in on fleet ops. This will guarantee you will lose some expendable ships but you will learn very valuable stuff about ships, modules and tactics and pvp in general and get to kill a few opponents while you are at it. Apart from that it can be very exciting and there is always action going on in FW space.
Lord Bentley Bentley Group	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:30:00 - [84] Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: Uronksur Suth when earning that currency is supposed to be part of the fun. For some it is. For me as well. I love the sense of accomplishment when building up everything myself and reaping the rewards and I have never bought ingame currency in any mmorpg ever even when I have plenty of cash irl and could have saved myself huge grinds to finally be competitive. But not everyone is like that, Uron. We shouldn't look down on those with other preferences. The guy is enjoying the game, that is what counts. Everyone screws up a few times, (I know I did, lol) it is part of the learning process and the more isk you have while still learning the game, the bigger your screw ups will be. So far he earned my respect by being very reasonable in replying to some very prejudiced posters. Bentley, I would do the following in your case; buy a load of frigs, cruisers and maybe a few battlecruisers and a cheap battleship, fit them for pvp, ship them to your nearest militia hub and join factional warfare for a month (or longer if you like). You might wanna join a FW corp as well and join in on fleet ops. This will guarantee you will lose some expendable ships but you will learn very valuable stuff about ships, modules and tactics and pvp in general and get to kill a few opponents while you are at it. Apart from that it can be very exciting and there is always action going on in FW space. Excellent idea! Do i need lot of faction standing to join or can i do it in few days? I bet i could learn alot from this. Respectfully, Lord Bentley Bentley Group
Ran Khanon Amarr The Phantom Acolytes	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:36:00 - [85] Edited by: Ran Khanon on 21/09/2009 18:37:35 Originally by: Lord Bentley Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: Uronksur Suth when earning that currency is supposed to be part of the fun. For some it is. For me as well. I love the sense of accomplishment when building up everything myself and reaping the rewards and I have never bought ingame currency in any mmorpg ever even when I have plenty of cash irl and could have saved myself huge grinds to finally be competitive. But not everyone is like that, Uron. We shouldn't look down on those with other preferences. The guy is enjoying the game, that is what counts. Everyone screws up a few times, (I know I did, lol) it is part of the learning process and the more isk you have while still learning the game, the bigger your screw ups will be. So far he earned my respect by being very reasonable in replying to some very prejudiced posters. Bentley, I would do the following in your case; buy a load of frigs, cruisers and maybe a few battlecruisers and a cheap battleship, fit them for pvp, ship them to your nearest militia hub and join factional warfare for a month (or longer if you like). You might wanna join a FW corp as well and join in on fleet ops. This will guarantee you will lose some expendable ships but you will learn very valuable stuff about ships, modules and tactics and pvp in general and get to kill a few opponents while you are at it. Apart from that it can be very exciting and there is always action going on in FW space. Excellent idea! Do i need lot of faction standing to join or can i do it in few days? I bet i could learn alot from this. Edit: ah, 0,5 standing with the faction you wanna fight for. Linkage
Dawts Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:38:00 - [86] I enjoy all the contradictions the OP has made throughout this thread.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:55:00 - [87] Originally by: Lord Bentley Originally by: Elora Narst What you have done is bought some Monopoly money without learning the rules. Then went ahead, and wasted it in one of the dumbest ways possible. This is game, so i don't see anything wrong buying some monopoly money. If you cannot afford it your self, maybe you should work more and playless. I used it as i felt like, and i enjoyed doing it, is that not the point while playing? Do you envy me for doing it? THIS IS TROLL Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:06:00 - [88] Edited by: Uronksur Suth on 21/09/2009 19:07:52 Originally by: Lord Bentley Originally by: Uronksur Suth Originally by: Lord Bentley Yes, i was kind of expecting this. Like most of us know, if someone gets something easier or more than the other, there will be trouble. Children act like this, and it is normal. As more mature posters we need to understand the immature posters. It can be hard, but we can do it. No. I just stated that its a difficult to respect an adult who blows several hundred dollars (or his local equivalent) on virtual game currency, when earning that currency is supposed to be part of the fun. Different strokes for different folks. It's fun for you, but might be different for me. Something that is supposed to be part of the fun, is not always fun for everyone. You assume too much. You miss my point. Its not about how you enjoy the game, I could understand if you couldn't care less about earning money, personally I find it satisfying. What I find ridiculous is that an adult took several hundred dollars and spent it in such a frivolous fashion and then actually comes on the forums and cheerfully tells us how he lost managed to lose 1.7 billion of what he got in exchange in a way that was completely avoidable.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Achura Model People here are respected ... LOL... That's where I stopped reading. Mr Epeen
Ran Khanon Amarr The Phantom Acolytes	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:15:00 - [90] Originally by: Uronksur Suth What I find ridiculous is that an adult took several hundred dollars and spent it in such a frivolous fashion and then actually comes on the forums and cheerfully tells us how he lost managed to lose 1.7 billion of what he got in exchange in a way that was completely avoidable. Every screw up was completely avoidable ... in hindsight.



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