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Plave Okice
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:14:00 -
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Yes it's coming back, Red Versus Blue.
A couple of years ago over on SHC, a guy called Tron said, ôwouldn't it be great if there was corps at war in empire you could just join and pew pew in anytime you wanted?ö, I said ôYesö, RvB was born.
This was before Faction Warfare existed, in the aftermath of the Alliance P nerf with a lot of bored people wanting a simple conflict to engage in without POS, politics and alliances.
We had a great amount of fun but the project fizzled out through lack of leadership, I've thought many times this last couple of years about bringing it back, I happened to mention this recently and the support has been overwhelming, so, with lessons learned from last time we're coming back, bigger and better.
FAQ Below.
TL:DR
Free for all empire war pew pew everyone welcome.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:15:00 -
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1st in the return of awesome
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Jamyl TashMurkon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:20:00 -
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2nd in epic
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Plave Okice
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:22:00 -
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Red Versus Blue FAQ
So what exactly is RvB?
Two corps permanently at war in empire, free for anyone to join either side and fight. Noob alts welcome although you'll have more fun with your main.
Can my corp join?
No, one of the lessons learned from last time is that making alliances was a mistake, it made balancing the sides extremely difficult and we lost a lot of team spirit on each side.
What rules are there?
There are no combat rules, while we'd encourage people to fly frig and cruiser hulls anything is allowed. The only definate rule is that while purple is active RvB fighting ceases.
What the hell is purple?
Red and Blue combined of course, we expect to be war decced by other entities in Eve, we fight them together as purple. Also we can for variation go fight other people in 0.0 or low sec as purple for fun, it's just about fighting.
So is this arena or tournament PvP?
No, it's normal PvP in Eve, just with a ready, willing and close supply of enemies wanting to fight without the politics and bull.
Is podding allowed?
Yes, while personally I think it's slightly against the spirit of what we're doing to pod people there are no rules against it, if you can scram it, kill it if you wish.
Where will it be based?
In high sec empire, exact location TBA.
When will it begin?
The war will be live on 30th September.
When can I join?
Details will be released of the corps to join tommorrow, 9 days before the war goes live so plenty of time to prepare.
What is the criteria for joining?
All you need is the ability to apply, anyone is welcome although if one side is overloaded with pilots we may tell you to join the other side.
Does it cost anything to join?
No
You're trying to turn Eve into WoW, this sucks, you suck, rage, rage, blah, blah.
Gdiaf
What are you doing this time to correct the mistakes of last time?
Sticking to one location, not creating alliances that caused more problems than it solved, putting together a proper leadership team rather than trying to do it all alone, never using Talans safespots.
Isn't this like faction warfare?
Well kind of yes, we created RvB before faction warfare existed last time, but it is a simpler format, just permanent empire war against a close, ready and willing enemy.
Will fighting be restricted to one area?
No, while there will be an obvious area where the action will be fights can happen anywhere.
So what actually happened last time?
Loads of pew pew, we had over 2500 kills in our first 8 weeks and not just cheap crap either, loads of T2 ships and BS died, lots of faction fit stuff flying about and dying and I remember a 10 billion ISK officer fit Rattler dying.
So why did it stop?
FW was coming, I took on another project in Eve and RvB fizzled out, this time I hope to have a good leadership team in place to keep the momentum up, I want RvB to be a project anyone can join/leave at any time for some pew pew and anyone includes me.
Who are you and why are you doing this?
I like to blow stuff up, I've been in some fine PvP outfits over the last 5 years, albeit some briefly, TRI, MC and AAA were all top outfits who were great to fly with but the most fun for me was Privateers, undock, shoot, die, nothing serious, just fun. It was great fun last time and I hope it will be the same again, no it won't be as fun as Pew Pew Palooza was of course but still it was a blast. So in summary, fun.
Isn't this fake PvP?
Well, the conflict has been created but the PvP and everything that goes on is pretty much normal real, the fights are real, the losses are real, the emoragequits are real.
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:04:00 -
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I endorse this product and/or service. ----------------
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:13:00 -
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Win. I had an alt in this back when it was still going but I'd only just started. I might just sign up for this.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 20/09/2009 16:41:51
Sounds like fun actually. Empire pvp where you have targets everywhere is more fun than the giant faction warfare blobs.
Eve used to be like this in the beginning, with pirates next door. I always loved that.
So if this turns out to be random frig pilots flying around on their own or in small gangs, it should be a lot of fun.
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Originally by: Eve Forums ...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...
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Ninja Troll
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:42:00 -
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OP...How do you plan on handling neutral RR?
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ninja Troll OP...How do you plan on handling neutral RR?
You shoot the ****ers.
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Plave Okice
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov Edit: Providing there are no rules on activity ofc.
None at all
Originally by: Ninja Troll OP...How do you plan on handling neutral RR?
Same as before and same as always, if it goes red shoot at it. It won't be going on within the project, it will of course with the 3rd party decs that are bound to come, so be it. For us it's about the fights moreso than winning, the winners are those involved in the fights regardless of outcome, the losers are those that don't undock through fear of defeat.
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Denny Haze
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:52:00 -
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Isn't RvB copyrighted, or trademarked, or something by RoosterTeeth?
60D GTC |

Pajama Sam
Copia-WarRages Armaments
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Denny Haze Isn't RvB copyrighted, or trademarked, or something by RoosterTeeth?
Even if it is, I highly doubt they would sue over something like this. 
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Denny Haze Isn't RvB copyrighted, or trademarked, or something by RoosterTeeth?
You can't trademark names of a colour, and besides, it's Red Federation and Blue such and such.
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Doomed Predator
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:59:00 -
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The irony of the OPs name(Blue eyes)/his corp name is nice :) The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |

Denny Haze
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.09.20 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Denny Haze Isn't RvB copyrighted, or trademarked, or something by RoosterTeeth?
You can't trademark names of a colour, and besides, it's Red Federation and Blue such and such.
Yeah...
Originally by: Plave Okice Red Versus Blue.
You can copyright combinations of words. Not sure though, if they have bothered to C. Red Versus Blue: The Bloodgulch Chronicles.
60D GTC |

Zifrian
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.20 17:07:00 -
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This is great. Glad you are going to do this again. I just started up again and got a friend who just started up so we will probably head over soon.
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Neriel Odershank
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Posted - 2009.09.20 17:50:00 -
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Awsome... ?? EPIC....????!
Red vs Blue was the worst experience in all my eve life: it was like there was always a spy in every gang so that "SOMEONE" could go there and loot/salvage. Nice way to make a profit, but absolutly not funny for 'real' fighters.
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Donatien de'Sade
Ars Notoria
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Posted - 2009.09.20 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Donatien de''Sade on 20/09/2009 18:39:44 Oooh, had an alt in Red before, nice move!
Edit: and lol @ "never using Talans safespots" ----------------------------------------------------------- In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move |

Plave Okice
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.20 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Neriel Odershank Awsome... ?? EPIC....????!
Red vs Blue was the worst experience in all my eve life: it was like there was always a spy in every gang so that "SOMEONE" could go there and loot/salvage. Nice way to make a profit, but absolutly not funny for 'real' fighters.
Wow, well, that's...interesting.
I guess you should just go have "real fights" elsewhere and thanks for the bump. 
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Opertone
Caldari Monsters
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Posted - 2009.09.20 19:13:00 -
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sounds good, I really am bored and it sounds like an awesome idea
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Tolrok Qorte
Minmatar Order of Nephilim Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.09.20 19:43:00 -
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I'm so glad this is coming back. I'm just about to start my own corp but you can be sure that sometime in the future I'll be coming around, if only to check it out and have some fun.
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Renarla
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Posted - 2009.09.20 20:52:00 -
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If this gets going I'd love to try it out, but atm there's 1 member in Red and 3 in Blue so I'll wait a bit lol. However, on another note, I now have one of those annoying sigs. |

JOSEPHx
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2009.09.20 20:59:00 -
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Very interesting indeed..........
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Plave Okice
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.20 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla If this gets going I'd love to try it out, but atm there's 1 member in Red and 3 in Blue so I'll wait a bit lol.
It doesn't start for another 9 days and plenty of people are joining in the meantime, patience. ;)
Originally by: JOSEPHx Very interesting indeed..........
Was afking earlier but saw your local message later, I'll have a chat with you at some point no doubt. 
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.09.20 21:45:00 -
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Great to see this back and a viable alternative to faction warfare for those who don't want to be harrased by faction navys in the enemys territory. Might have to transfer an alt I had made for rvb back into it as he now actually has the sp to do moar than die horribly in a lolsp arbi. 
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |

NyteTyger
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.21 00:49:00 -
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Oh, this sounds like it will be a blast! 
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.21 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice
Originally by: Neriel Odershank Awsome... ?? EPIC....????!
Red vs Blue was the worst experience in all my eve life: it was like there was always a spy in every gang so that "SOMEONE" could go there and loot/salvage. Nice way to make a profit, but absolutly not funny for 'real' fighters.
Wow, well, that's...interesting.
Yes, it's absolutely preposterous someone would think a colluded war would have spies.
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Ralnik
Rotten Blasterds
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Posted - 2009.09.21 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ralnik on 21/09/2009 03:35:16 Well dam.. I saw the RvB2 topic over at SHC and didn't get around to reading it. This sounds pretty cool and I think I'll sign up to check it out.
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2009.09.21 04:18:00 -
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i fully endorse this service/product - putting the gist back into logistics |

Ensa Rai
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Posted - 2009.09.21 04:37:00 -
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Sounds like fun to me
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