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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 16:13:00 -
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What exactly do i get out of these taxes? do i get jump clone rights at the NPC corp? no.
do we get free/cheaper repairs... no
does the isk go to improving our experience no of course not isk is pretend money.
So when i start paying taxes i better get some f-ing medical or something out of the NPC corp other than a ever flashing corp chat window.
so really what your doing is making it even harder for solo players to enjoy the game not all of us are into the big alliances or have lots of friends playing eve some of us are just simple players that want to pve quietly an 11% reduction in my rewards means aproximately 100 missions MORE to get something like a marauder.
So the alternative? join a player corp or create one on my own, get war decked by every douche bag that wants to make my life difficult simply for being in high sec.
between this and ninja salvagers there's not much left in the game for mission runners these days
i'm starting to miss wow
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 16:18:00 -
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Ok i'm not done complaining.
Recently this game has been more and more about pushing people into roles they dont want.
The joy of eve was the vast selection of things to do and ways to go about it, you could play alone you could join a corp and alliance, but now its all a PUSH to get the solo players out and doing what they didn't sign up for.
You guys expand 0.0 frequently over the history of eve but never high sec space so it gets more crowded you got tonnes of empty 0.0 and your solution is to push everyone out into it? its not for every one!
if it was high sec would be empty and we'd all be out there all the time, but that very obviously isn't the case.
There's nothing left for me here time to start letting all the accounts expire and find something new
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 16:28:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Soundwave
I don't know why you'd draw the conclusion that I realized this after the change. I clearly state in my devblog that I'd like to balance the incentives out between player and NPC corporations.
how is it a balance the incentive of paying tax to a player corps is you assume the corp will do something with the isk that will better your game experience and benefit your fellow corp mates.
if you want to justify taxes state a clear benefit to the player for paying taxes to an NPC corp other than "the player corps do it"
this is just another kick in the face to carebears like myself, i wonder what will happen to the database when ever solo player creates a 1 man corp, then when they get war dec'd leaves the corp to create a new 1 man corp about an hour after the war dec comes active.
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 16:47:00 -
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I can't remember a time when i was able to do a mission in peace without someone coming and salvaging every wreck i dont pop, and flipping cans then showing up in numbers.
I would say most of the income of a mission used to come from salvage but now its increasingly difficult to actually claim your salvage and there is no recourse against these players.
fine i came to terms with that lets start blitzing missions for rewards to make isk quick enough. now thats being hampered as well.
The reason this is so frustrating isn't this 1 thing its the culmination of things CCP has been doing to that only affect mission runners.
miners have nothing to pay, traders have no taxes to pay, manufactures ditto.
its not an over reaction its a built up frustration thats finally placed the last straw on the camels back.
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: FilledWithCandy on 24/09/2009 16:55:47
Originally by: Orange Faeces
Originally by: FilledWithCandy
What exactly do i get out of these taxes? do i get jump clone rights at the NPC corp? no.
do we get free/cheaper repairs... no
does the isk go to improving our experience no of course not isk is pretend money.
Ah, right. Soundwave left that out of his blog. Basically, the 11% goes mostly to pay for Concord's ammo. They have to shoot suicide gankers and other people who aggress in high-sec.
Hope that helps. <3
my point here is that it is not putting things on par with player corps, player corps (in theory) use taxes for the benefit of its members. this is just a cash grab and nothing more, ccp deciding the way i play the game isn't good enough and i should learn to enjoy it another way
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dynus
CCP, check your logs for what matters - how many subscribers log on more than four times a week? Those are the only players you should be pushing into player corps.
why do we have to PUSH? why can't ccp be happy with the income of the casual player who pays as much as the rest of you to enjoy the game.
Why is my way of enjoying this LESS valid than anyone else?
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 17:25:00 -
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If you are not trying to turn down the isk faucet, would there be a problem with increasing it for the other side? eg. Give player corps a bonus to mission running rewards. This would provide a positive rather than negative incentive, but have more isk generated overall.
Finally someone with a solution that doesn't feel like a kick in the nuts
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 17:45:00 -
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My final rant for real this time.
If you want to charge us tax GIVE US SOMETHING FOR IT!
if you want to go ahead and claim that the tax pays for the stations, gates and BS like that. Then charge tolls to those who are in private corps for using the facilities we pay for.
Give us jump clone rights in our corps stations, give us something dont just say "sorry your F*cked out 11% of your isk" with nothing to show for it.
I'm appalled i can't explain it any other way CCP and the other players need to just accept the fact that some people want to be left alone and not provide stupid punishments to incentive players to play the game the way YOU want us to play it.
whatever i'm done this sucks
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Caldor Mansi
Edited by: Caldor Mansi on 24/09/2009 17:51:37
Originally by: FilledWithCandy
My final rant for real this time.
If you want to charge us tax GIVE US SOMETHING FOR IT!
Yes, ranting is all you do ignoring every point.
You already got the something - wardec immunity. Just until now it was for free, that was fixed and now you have to pay...3-7% of your income.
War decs are not the only reason to be in an npc corp you can avoid war decs in a 1 man corp forever by disbanning and reforming a new corp, which if i continue in this game will likely be the solution i use new corp every day i bet thats going to be awesome for database performance.
and i haven't ignored any points that have come up pertaning to my concerns i have ignored all of the people who just say "suck it up you can't be wardec'd about time you pay for that"
No viable alternative has be offered, i have responded to the 1 persons point who came up with an alternative solution not just a complaint about someones grammar or thoughtlessness.
I have read the forum and understand the issue, as i read here its clear to me most of the people posting aren't the people who are affected by this but people who want to stick it to those who are
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FilledWithCandy
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Posted - 2009.09.24 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Caldor Mansi
Originally by: FilledWithCandy
War decs are not the only reason to be in an npc corp you can avoid war decs in a 1 man corp forever by disbanning and reforming a new corp, which if i continue in this game will likely be the solution i use new corp every day i bet thats going to be awesome for database performance.
As far as I can say, you were ranting about being taxed and forced to certain type of gameplay not about taxes being avoidable.
Does that mean that once taxes are applied and avoiding wardec by creating 1 man corp fixed, you will be happy?
Originally by: FilledWithCandy
No viable alternative has be offered..
Alternative to...?
Alternative way to motivate players to leave NPC corps, i don't think penalties are the way to do so, there should be a positive reinforcement a real reason to leave the NPC corp
my point is that this wont fix anything having players all move to 1 man corps simply creates a mess with no benefit to anyone.
what's next manditory ccp tax to all one man corps? wardecing individual players?
Avoiding war decs is one of the perks of the npc corp the biggest perk is the ability to kind of be invisible and just do your own thing without in game responsibilities.
My problem isn't with this one specific action entirely its the general attitude recently towards the npc corp carebear and how avoiding pvp should be a taxable offense.
the argument of player corps having a tax is moot players choose to join a corp with a tax rate they find acceptable. They base there decision not only on the rate of tax but benefits provided by the corp,
I find it almost offensive how all of you who aren't effected by this simply want casual players to make less money because we don't subscribe to your style of game play.. its unfair
all i'm saying is make the tax provide an actual benefit rather than just the "wardec immunity argument" or leave the carebears alone.
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