Originally by: Butter Dog

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I've said it before and I'll say it again - if any single Providence holder would like to fight U'K without the holding hands of the rest of the Bloc, we would accept the challenge with relish.

However, for whatever reason, this challenge is yet to be accepted. Though I think we can all guess the reasons with some accuracy. But it stands. I ask any holder to put their ships where their mouths are, and accept it.

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Originally by: progodlegend

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I was unaware of this open challenge, but out of curosity, what kind of fight are you even talking about, a 20 on 20 man fleet, 30 on 30, 40 on 40 etc.?

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: progodlegend

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I was unaware of this open challenge, but out of curosity, what kind of fight are you even talking about, a 20 on 20 man fleet, 30 on 30, 40 on 40 etc.?

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You temporarily remove yourself from the ProvidenceBloc, that means no more shared channels or joined fleets, and with the open agreement of no interference from the other holders and CVA (this would have to be confirmed by them publically, as a matter of honour), Ushra'Khan will then assault your space.

If you lose, you are evicted and can say goodbye to 0.0 life (and likely CVA will just install another holder, but we'll enjoy ourselves, so who cares).

If you win, you get to keep your space.

Let's call it an 'Alliance 1v1'.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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You temporarily remove yourself from the ProvidenceBloc, that means no more shared channels or joined fleets, and with the open agreement of no interference from the other holders and CVA (this would have to be confirmed by them publically, as a matter of honour), Ushra'Khan will then assault your space.

If you lose, you are evicted and can say goodbye to 0.0 life (and likely CVA will just install another holder, but we'll enjoy ourselves, so who cares).

If you win, you get to keep your space.

Let's call it an 'Alliance 1v1'.

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Originally by: Jakiin

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So basically "You lose and you lose everything, you win and we give you props."

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Originally by: Sirius A

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You would like that wouldn't you...lol

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Originally by: Kura Accipter

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Originally by: Sirius A

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You would like that wouldn't you...lol

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Yes, because we'd win. Seems like you agree with me too.

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Originally by: Niding

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Butters, you fail to grasp the Deliverance project.

We are in Providence to develop the region, not to accomodate the whims of
terrorists and criminals.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: progodlegend

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I was unaware of this open challenge, but out of curosity, what kind of fight are you even talking about, a 20 on 20 man fleet, 30 on 30, 40 on 40 etc.?

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You temporarily remove yourself from the ProvidenceBloc, that means no more shared channels or joined fleets, and with the open agreement of no interference from the other holders and CVA (this would have to be confirmed by them publically, as a matter of honour), Ushra'Khan will then assault your space.

If you lose, you are evicted and can say goodbye to 0.0 life (and likely CVA will just install another holder, but we'll enjoy ourselves, so who cares).

If you win, you get to keep your space.

Let's call it an 'Alliance 1v1'.

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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss

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that doesn't make any sense, why would anyone forsake hard won allies to make things easier for ones enemies?

Butter Dog, you want them to die then take them out. If you can't do it then aim for something in your ability to do.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Edited by: Butter Dog on 29/09/2009 11:35:33

You have greater numbers in your alliance and all the advantages of defensive structures like POS, Jump Bridges, and Cynojammers. Not to mention basing in your home space for ease of logistics.

If you won't accept the challenge, it's not because the challenge is unfair - it's because you are weak.

Also - this challenge stands in reverse too. If you would like to try to assault our space without the interference of our allies on a 'Alliance 1v1' basis, we would gladly accept, on the same terms.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss

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that doesn't make any sense, why would anyone forsake hard won allies to make things easier for ones enemies?

Butter Dog, you want them to die then take them out. If you can't do it then aim for something in your ability to do.

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Look, it's really very simple. It's called 'making a point'.

Some Providence holders claim they could match U'K combat ability. I refute that, and they claim I am wrong. So, I offer a challenge to any holder who thinks this - an offer for them to put their money where their GalNet posturing is. To prove what they claim.

Unsurprisingly, no holder has accepted the challenge. We all know the reason for this - every holder knows that U'K would crush them if they tried to stand alone.

I'm afraid that no holder can claim to have strength, all the time they hide under the skirt of the CVA when something a little scary looks their way.

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Originally by: Tagami Wasp

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Yes, it insinuates that although you talk hard, you're soft and just scared to fight alone. As long as you can hide behind CVA you'll talk big and do nothing. The challenge was made. Accept it or just say what is in everybody's mind: You are afraid to go on 1 vs 1 against U'K, knowing full well that you are not a match for our warriors. Alone you will crumble, just concede to the truth.

Anyway, except for CVA, I wouldn't trust any of the Holders to keep their word and not just ask for Provibloc support, even in a prearranged fight. Cowards never step up to a challenge if they can't make sure the numbers are on their side. In your case, that means at least 4 to 1 vs U'K.

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Originally by: progodlegend

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Come on, what does Uk have to offer to sweeten the deal?

But, yes I am aware you made the same offer on your space, which I find interesting and must admit that is tempting. But once again have to ask, what the conditions of such a victory would be, do we have to take over a system? all the systems? some systems? just stations?

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Originally by: Sirius A

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Brutor v. Brutor...come get some

http://nopogo.mybrute.com

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Dimebag Delia

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Would guess either -7- or Cold Steel could manage UK solo.

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That's a pretty inaccurate statement. Those alliances have less cap ships than my lone corp, never mind a serious lack of competent FC's. There is also the fact that U'K can field much larger fleets than those entities alone.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if any single Providence holder would like to fight U'K without the holding hands of the rest of the Bloc, we would accept the challenge with relish.

However, for whatever reason, this challenge is yet to be accepted. Though I think we can all guess the reasons with some accuracy. But it stands. I ask any holder to put their ships where their mouths are, and accept it.

But they know that U'K attract a more experienced, more skilled combat pilot - it is the nature of our alliance and our existence (until recently, U'K existed only for combat, and held no space).

I think we are all slightly paranoid (in a healthy way) about recruiting pilots who live only for sansha hunting rather than true combat. It is those pilots who bloat the Providence holders and cause them to be ineffectual on the field of combat. We have no wish to go the way of Cold Steel, -7-, etc - ineffectual sansha hunting alliances who's response to threat is simply a mass of numbers.

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Originally by: Equinox Daedalus

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Coming from an Alliance that hides behind -A- makes this post even slightly more comical.

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Originally by: Equinox Daedalus

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Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 30/09/2009 16:09:08

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Dimebag Delia

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Would guess either -7- or Cold Steel could manage UK solo.

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That's a pretty inaccurate statement. Those alliances have less cap ships than my lone corp, never mind a serious lack of competent FC's. There is also the fact that U'K can field much larger fleets than those entities alone.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if any single Providence holder would like to fight U'K without the holding hands of the rest of the Bloc, we would accept the challenge with relish.

However, for whatever reason, this challenge is yet to be accepted. Though I think we can all guess the reasons with some accuracy. But it stands. I ask any holder to put their ships where their mouths are, and accept it.

But they know that U'K attract a more experienced, more skilled combat pilot - it is the nature of our alliance and our existence (until recently, U'K existed only for combat, and held no space).

I think we are all slightly paranoid (in a healthy way) about recruiting pilots who live only for sansha hunting rather than true combat. It is those pilots who bloat the Providence holders and cause them to be ineffectual on the field of combat. We have no wish to go the way of Cold Steel, -7-, etc - ineffectual sansha hunting alliances who's response to threat is simply a mass of numbers.

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Coming from an Alliance that hides behind -A- makes this post even slightly more comical.

Alright "not kenny" you win.

I don't know why even anyone even bothers replying to you, except for the fact that you seem to make little to no sense most of them time.

I know you'll say "we don't hide behind -a-" and "we don't do what -a- tell us to do" and "we are free to do what we like no matter what -a- say".....I'm sure that somewhere deep deep down in your pod you believe it, much like i'm sure that you believe CVA are evil and that slavery is bad.

I'd tell the monkeys posting to ignore you but they generally would disregard any of that thought as they seem to get to riled up in the excitment of getting infamous.

Good Luck riling up the masses i'm sure they need something to go on about.

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