Would be nice if the theif became flagged to everyone in the system rather than just the noob and his corp. That might even things up a bit and encourage alot more high sec pvp.

Four core stabs?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6604850

Challenge accepted.

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As things stand the griefer.........salvaging other peoples' mission killed ships.

I read a Eve post on Reddit yesterday about a totally newbie that got scanned down doing a mission in a .4 system. He was swiftly vaped and ransomed.

He didn't know it was possible to be scanned down at a mission site.
He didn't know people would try and ransom his pod
He didn't know anything about combat and lost the battle before it even began.

At the end of his post... he proclaimed EVE as being the coolest game he has ever played because of this.

Last night I was holding for locates on war targets and decided to do a little can flipping to see if anyone was dumb enough to shoot at a red Proteus. I figure you deserve what you get if you try that.

One miner warped out of the belt as soon as I flipped his can. His posts in local went something like this:

Him: Whee!
Me: Umm....bye?
Him: Thanks for the adrenaline rush!
Me: You're welcome I guess. But...why'd you run?

*private convo*

Him: I've been ganked three times, I saw red and hit warp. Run first, look later.
Me: Fair enough. It's a better reflex than gawking in confusion or putting drones on me.

We talked for a bit, he was quite chill about being ganked repeatedly. I gave him some hints on aggro mechanics, talked fittings a bit, and generally had a pleasant conversation with a noob miner in a retriever. I was quite impressed with his attitude. Hopefully he'll stick around and branch out from mining. I suspect that a year from now he'll be around, still not giving a f*** and having a good time however it suits him. He might be a noob miner, but that guy *gets* Eve in a way some people never do.

I always find it odd that no one says that the suicide ganker is a few week old alt in a NPC corp that is a throw away asset?

And how pretty much using it in this way is completely circumventing the sec status mechanic...

"Oh look I got kill rights on a 2 week old pilot but can't blat the tit next to him ready to salvage and loot his targets", yep that makes sense -¼.-¼

Recycling alts with low sec status will get you banned pretty quick.

My point is that there is no way to retaliate against the actual aggressor. Just a puppet shield they use.

I propose a simple solution to the problem of griefing of noobs in high-sec space.....

2) It would get tons of alt haulers killed (miners don't actually have a reason to be in a corp atm)

Stealing (from carebear bins) puts the pilot at risk since he can be freely shot at. I think that is a harsh enough punishment for daring to try and clean up after you wasteful lot.

Stealing (from carebear bins) puts the pilot at risk since he can be freely shot at. I think that is a harsh enough punishment for daring to try and clean up after you wasteful lot.

Why should stealing from a trashcan be a Crime? Surely if you valued the stuff, you wouldn't have jettisoned it into space, right?