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Meveil	Posted - 2009.09.24 17:15:00 - [1] Was wondering if a Dev could tell us how much damage the new DD would do. That way I can know if my thantos carrier would be one shooted by it or not. Main reason I ask is because a certain alliance been interfering with the FW and we know where one of its titans is. So I'm entertaining the idea of after the changes, leading a assualt on one of the alliances pos in low sec.
Doomed Predator The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.09.24 17:19:00 - [2] They an 1 shoot a carrier or dread,unless it's specifically tanked against the titans DD damage type. As for hard numbers, I believe base damage is 2 mill racial damage and get 200% or 225% (Erebus gets 225%, the rest 200%, might be a typo) per racial titan skill per level. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
Caldari Citizen4714	Posted - 2009.09.24 17:22:00 - [3] Originally by: Doomed Predator They an 1 shoot a carrier or dread,unless it's specifically tanked against the titans DD damage type. As for hard numbers, I believe base damage is 2 mill racial damage and get 200% or 225% (Erebus gets 225%, the rest 200%, might be a typo) per racial titan skill per level. Err, almost... What I read was 6k DPS for the DD with a 5 minute refire, before any bounes. Which is 1.8M volley damage. And the XL capital guns get 200% or 225% damage bonus to capital guns, not the DD. - Support DISBANDING the Alliance CCP Renamed at the Alliance's Request
Kuar Z'thain Fraser's Finest Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.09.24 17:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 Originally by: Doomed Predator They an 1 shoot a carrier or dread,unless it's specifically tanked against the titans DD damage type. As for hard numbers, I believe base damage is 2 mill racial damage and get 200% or 225% (Erebus gets 225%, the rest 200%, might be a typo) per racial titan skill per level. Err, almost... What I read was 6k DPS for the DD with a 5 minute refire, before any bounes. Which is 1.8M volley damage. And the XL capital guns get 200% or 225% damage bonus to capital guns, not the DD. Still half wrong. Bonus to cap guns correct but off on the DD damage. Here's Judgment's stats: Volume: 8000m3 Mass: 100kg Activation Cost 27,500 GJ Max group fitted: 1 Velocity bonus: -100% Can be fitted to: Avatar Tech Level: 1 Jump Delay Duration: 300 sec Consumption Type: Helium Isotopes Consumption Quantity: 50,000 Activation Time/Duration: 300 sec EM Damage: 2,000,000
Meveil	Posted - 2009.09.24 17:54:00 - [5] eekk gawds!! 2mill!! **** some alliances will be able to one shot some poss!!! but I won't complain. After all. I did suggest something like this weapon on a different toon. so can't b2#$ when CCP actually listens. Now the question is the best course of action to get a Carrier to be able to tank it. any suggestions?
Kuar Z'thain Fraser's Finest	Posted - 2009.09.24 17:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Meveil eekk gawds!! 2mill!! **** some alliances will be able to one shot some poss!!! but I won't complain. After all. I did suggest something like this weapon on a different toon. so can't b2#$ when CCP actually listens. Now the question is the best course of action to get a Carrier to be able to tank it. any suggestions? Read the feedback thread in the test server forum. I think everyone agrees no properly fit carrier or dread will survive this. Unless you want to drop a few extra bill on your fitting. CAP PILOTS: If you see a Titan, you run.
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.09.24 18:35:00 - [7] SO it can 1 pop Caps... What's the damage look like to a BS? Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success
Kuar Z'thain Fraser's Finest	Posted - 2009.09.24 18:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Sun Clausewitz SO it can 1 pop Caps... What's the damage look like to a BS? Like your face melting off. No damage reduction for smaller ships.
Blnukem 192 Amarr Malevolent Industries	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:04:00 - [9] That thing's operational!
Vysnaite Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:07:00 - [10] Wow. Well it means that multiple titans in single op will be seen more often.

Discrodia Gallente Forsaken Mercenaries Maru Ka'ge	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Blnukem 192 That thing's operational! Revert all power to the forward deflector shields! ________________________________________________ MUFFINS :D
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:17:00 - [12] IT'S OVER 9000 -------------------------- WTB a sig, or moderation of my sig by all the hot CCP girls.
Grek Forto	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:30:00 - [13]
Le Sabre Gallente The Dead Canary Mining Corporation Legion of Honor	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Grek Forto Thats no moon!!!
Caldari Citizen4714	Posted - 2009.09.24 19:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Read the feedback thread in the test server forum. I think everyone agrees no properly fit carrier or dread will survive this. Unless you want to drop a few extra bill on your fitting. CAP PILOTS: If you see a Titan, you run. Then perhaps the definition of a "proper" fit will change. I'm not saying the below setup is a proper fit, but it would take the hit at 2.5M EHP (2.6M vs. EM): [Moros, Strukta] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Siege Module I Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Large Anti-Explosive Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I - Support DISBANDING the Alliance CCP Renamed at the Alliance's Request
grapfter	Posted - 2009.09.24 20:46:00 - [16] Skill at operating titan doomsday weapons. 10% increased damage per level.
Kuar Z'thain Fraser's Finest	Posted - 2009.09.24 20:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Read the feedback thread in the test server forum. I think everyone agrees no properly fit carrier or dread will survive this. Unless you want to drop a few extra bill on your fitting. CAP PILOTS: If you see a Titan, you run. Then perhaps the definition of a "proper" fit will change. I'm not saying the below setup is a proper fit, but it would take the hit at 2.5M EHP (2.6M vs. EM): [Moros, Strukta] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Siege Module I Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Large Anti-Explosive Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I OMFG. Please tell me you are not a cap pilot. Also, what if the titan pilot has doomsday 4 trained? You still die.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.09.24 20:53:00 - [18] Doesn't this mean when you fire a new DD, another 2 titans are going to double DD you which will instantly kill you? Then those 2 titans will be double DD by 4 titans, and then those 4 titans...
Kuar Z'thain Fraser's Finest	Posted - 2009.09.24 21:03:00 - [19] Originally by: TimMc Doesn't this mean when you fire a new DD, another 2 titans are going to double DD you which will instantly kill you? Then those 2 titans will be double DD by 4 titans, and then those 4 titans... If this happens, Chribba will become the richest man in EVE due to his veld stockpiles. And everyone will cheer at the loss of so many stupid e-peens.
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.09.24 21:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Read the feedback thread in the test server forum. I think everyone agrees no properly fit carrier or dread will survive this. Unless you want to drop a few extra bill on your fitting. CAP PILOTS: If you see a Titan, you run. Then perhaps the definition of a "proper" fit will change. I'm not saying the below setup is a proper fit, but it would take the hit at 2.5M EHP (2.6M vs. EM): [Moros, Strukta] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Siege Module I Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Dual 1000mm Railgun I, Guristas Lead Charge XL Large Anti-Explosive Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I DD 5 would mean that it will take 3 million damage so you would still die. ______________________________________________


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.09.24 21:15:00 - [21] Skills increase the damage My Judgement has 2.4M base EM damage, however - Striking the Veldspar yields 0.0 damage, so they are rock hard!! WTS 1600mm Veldspar Plates. Win a Nyx mothership for 10M ISK

Wa'roun Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.24 22:00:00 - [22] Originally by: TimMc Doesn't this mean when you fire a new DD, another 2 titans are going to double DD you which will instantly kill you? Then those 2 titans will be double DD by 4 titans, and then those 4 titans... and so on, and so on, and so on... Join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.24 22:14:00 - [23] Except titans are getting a stupid high EHP buff too. I think someone was throwing around an Avatar fit and gang support settup that gave it 60mill EHP. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2009.09.24 22:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Euriti DD 5 would mean that it will take 3 million damage so you would still die. to eft it a rev with dcu & 7x Bulkheads II & 3x trimarks can get about 4mil ehp. Yeah you lose dps but if then again it takes 2x titans to kill you it might be worth it. A dread in seige can't be repped so not much hope for remote reps anyways. I gotta agree with the previous poster in that if there is anyway that a doomsday can be tanked then the definition of a proper fit may very well change.
Jovoich Kleinrock Heavy Industries The Kadeshi	Posted - 2009.09.24 22:29:00 - [25] tbh, I think if someone is willing to field a ship costing 80b + isk. I don't think its too much to ask for it to be able to 1 shot a carrier or dread costing around 1b - 1.5b. I wouldn't expect a titan to be able to live long enough through multiple engagements to kill 80+ caps. I call 'Bull****' CCP. Isn't it great that the alchemy process was introduced & can 'take up the slack?'
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2009.09.25 01:44:00 - [26] Originally by: Jovoich tbh, I think if someone is willing to field a ship costing 80b + isk. I don't think its too much to ask for it to be able to 1 shot a carrier or dread costing around 1b - 1.5b. I wouldn't expect a titan to be able to live long enough through multiple engagements to kill 80+ caps. The issue isn't with 1 titan. The issue is when one side shows up with 80+ dreads and the other shows up with 25 titans + dreads + carriers. Can the 80+ dreads kill a titan or two before they all die? If alliances can now field a dozen titans in a few years they'll be able to field a few dozen titans for a fight. Titans become the new dreads. Dreads become the new bs, tanked like a double dd tanked bs of today and fit for a limited purpose of suriving titans. Fleets of a few hundred dreads backed by a few dozen titans are possible on a long enough timeline. The titan cost drops if an alliance builds them. After a while titans won't be worth fitting much past t2 with some faction mods. So the cost will drop still further. Spending massive amounts of isk on something should give a marginal improvement. Look at the cost difference between t1 and t2 for example. Lots if isk shouldn't equal omgwtfpwnsauce.
Grace Fall	Posted - 2009.09.25 02:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Crackzilla If alliances can now field a dozen titans in a few years they'll be able to field a few dozen titans for a fight. Titans become the new dreads. Dreads become the new bs, tanked like a double dd tanked bs of today and fit for a limited purpose of suriving titans. Actually the titan build rate will slow dramatically at when this change goes through. The reason is you will no longer be able to safely a build on a titan after the Dominion sov changes. This means the titans that do exist will most likely be a bit more cautious since a new one will be harder to get.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.25 05:48:00 - [28] Maybe the phoenix dread will get some meaning again. Low: damage control, 2x BCU, 2x PDS Medium: 4x faction racial hardners (racials are cheap, needed for cpu), 2x Invul II, capital shield booster with 3% shield implant and 3 t1 shield extender rigs, that's 3,24 million EHP. If the force in the Phoenix pilot is strong, he'll sense the incoming hit and will overheat the hardeners, which results in 4,36 million EHP.
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.09.25 06:12:00 - [29] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Maybe the phoenix dread will get some meaning again. Low: damage control, 2x BCU, 2x PDS Medium: 4x faction racial hardners (racials are cheap, needed for cpu), 2x Invul II, capital shield booster with 3% shield implant and 3 t1 shield extender rigs, that's 3,24 million EHP. If the force in the Phoenix pilot is strong, he'll sense the incoming hit and will overheat the hardeners, which results in 4,36 million EHP. Yes, I too, think it is a good idea to theorycraft a Phoenix fitting that allows you to tank a DD but makes it bad at actually shooting anything.
Steve Celeste Caldari Overdogs	Posted - 2009.09.25 09:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Meveil assualt on one of the alliances pos in low sec. Will it be possible to fire the new superweapon in lowsec?



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