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Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:35:00 -
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(Thought i would ask another question)
1. Does anyone know what percentage of the build price of a hulk is Technetium. And what profit the Tech Cartel is making per Hulk sold.
I was talking to a Goon friend recently about this and he said that since the formation of the Cartel the only real deal they had was to destroy as many Hulks as possible, but not many of them could be bothered to go to highsec and do it so they came up with in my opinion some of the best meta gaming ive ever seen in an MMO.
Goon one. " I cant be bothered to go to highsec and gank Hulks all day long even if it will make our alliance rich" Goon two. "Then why dont we get the pubbies to do it for us"
The campaign started on the forums that miners were evil and all needed to be destroyed and a bounty of 10 million would be paid for each one killed, payable in batches of 10 kills.
It did not take long before highsec players with no assocation to the Goons were saying the same thing and ganking miners and "lapping up their tears". And through all of this the cartel is making a fortune and not having to waste any time or effort ganking miners themselves
+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune.
Love them or hate them the Goons are some of the shrewdest players in the game. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
823
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:37:00 -
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anyone participating in hulkageddon and getting payouts from us is probably aware that we profit from it
they just don't care and do it anyway eh |

Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx
170
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:37:00 -
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Christopher Dulson wrote:+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune.
We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny. |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
209
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Posted - 2012.06.07 04:15:00 -
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Christopher Dulson wrote:(Thought i would ask another question)
1. Does anyone know what percentage of the build price of a hulk is Technetium. And what profit the Tech Cartel is making per Hulk sold.
I was talking to a Goon friend recently about this and he said that since the formation of the Cartel the only real deal they had was to destroy as many Hulks as possible, but not many of them could be bothered to go to highsec and do it so they came up with in my opinion some of the best meta gaming ive ever seen in an MMO.
Goon one. " I cant be bothered to go to highsec and gank Hulks all day long even if it will make our alliance rich" Goon two. "Then why dont we get the pubbies to do it for us"
The campaign started on the forums that miners were evil and all needed to be destroyed and a bounty of 10 million would be paid for each one killed, payable in batches of 10 kills.
It did not take long before highsec players with no assocation to the Goons were saying the same thing and ganking miners and "lapping up their tears". And through all of this the cartel is making a fortune and not having to waste any time or effort ganking miners themselves
+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune.
Love them or hate them the Goons are some of the shrewdest players in the game.
yes yes.. really cool.... was this anything but a suck up post?
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
823
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Posted - 2012.06.07 04:50:00 -
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i did a rough breakdown of the raw materials that go into a Hulk and the 500 or so units of Tech that go into one (based on blueprint levels) makes up roughly 40% of its market value
sup eh |

Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
129
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Posted - 2012.06.07 05:00:00 -
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Truly a grand conspiracy you have uncovered.
(PS that fact that we're turning a profit isn't the (only) reason why we're doing it. Hulkageddon isn't gonna feed our crippling drakefleet habit or anything.) |

HaxTis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.06.07 05:43:00 -
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Gotta get my drakes man, gotta get my fix. |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
244
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Posted - 2012.06.07 06:11:00 -
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Try this pretty boy...
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/week-in-life-bottleneck.html
It might be what you are after but I'm not sure. I didn't take my pills this morning and weird things are happening! This is not some joke I'm ready to go crawl a wall. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |

Gealbhan
Used Shuttle Sales Representative
171
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:07:00 -
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I bet Captain Obvious is a blood relation to the OP.  |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
75
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:40:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Christopher Dulson wrote:+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune. We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny.
We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny and they don't shoot back.
fixed it for you 
do you think the goons will be doing a killanytech2shipageddon ? |
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Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
91
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:51:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Christopher Dulson wrote:+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune. We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny.
hats the Only reason... I havn't asked for any moneys from goonies I don't think I even Salvaged anything ^_^
I'm here for the Tears. http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
835
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:55:00 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:do you think the goons will be doing a killanytech2shipageddon ?
we don't have trouble killing them in nullsec so vOv eh |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
75
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:59:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:do you think the goons will be doing a killanytech2shipageddon ? we don't have trouble killing them in nullsec so vOv
i didn't ask if you had issues killing them in nullsec, i asked if the goons had any plans on the Goonswarm Federation Sponsoring Emergent Gameplay for all pilots galaxy wide against all tech 2 ships and not just ones that don't shoot back ? |

Foder Enaka
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.06.07 09:30:00 -
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This should answer your question. http://tagn.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/hulkageddon-technetium-and-the-circle-of-life/
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.06.07 09:31:00 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:do you think the goons will be doing a killanytech2shipageddon ? we don't have trouble killing them in nullsec so vOv i didn't ask if you had issues killing them in nullsec, i asked if the goons had any plans on the Goonswarm Federation Sponsoring Emergent Gameplay for all pilots galaxy wide against all tech 2 ships and not just ones that don't shoot back ?
So far the plans for this are going to require that the ganker also flies a tech heavy ship, so if the target does fire back and wins, we still make bank.
And did some one say Drakes? I thought I heard Drakes? Don't hold out on me man. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
731
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:21:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Christopher Dulson wrote:+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune. We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny. hats the Only reason... I havn't asked for any moneys from goonies I don't think I even Salvaged anything ^_^ I'm here for the Tears.
You do it for hats? If Hulk pilots are dropping hats then Im in.. I need a hat. I really need a hat...
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
75
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Posted - 2012.06.07 11:32:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:do you think the goons will be doing a killanytech2shipageddon ? we don't have trouble killing them in nullsec so vOv i didn't ask if you had issues killing them in nullsec, i asked if the goons had any plans on the Goonswarm Federation Sponsoring Emergent Gameplay for all pilots galaxy wide against all tech 2 ships and not just ones that don't shoot back ? So far the plans for this are going to require that the ganker also flies a tech heavy ship, so if the target does fire back and wins, we still make bank. And did some one say Drakes? I thought I heard Drakes? Don't hold out on me man.
so you're alliance isn't interested in shooting anything that might shoot back and cause you not to make a profit, so this is indeed all about controlling the market making the goons richer.
thank you for the confirmation.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
75
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Posted - 2012.06.07 11:33:00 -
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i knew the answer already, i just wanted confirmation from a goon.
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Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.07 12:41:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:i did a rough breakdown of the raw materials that go into a Hulk and the 500 or so units of Tech that go into one (based on blueprint levels) makes up roughly 40% of its market value
sup
Thanks for this mate.
Also to the people talking about ganking other tech II ships and stating hulks are only killed because they dont shoot back are completely missing the point.
The hulk was chosen as
1. It is the most numerous tech II ship in the game. 2. It has the smallest tank in comparision to its size (and the way that miners fit their ships).
If they had chosen highsec broadswordaggeddon then Goon profits would be a lot lower so in financial terms the hulk was the only real choice to make. |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
307
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Posted - 2012.06.07 14:21:00 -
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I suppose the Goons didn't think they were getting enough credit for their brilliance and co-opted OP into making yet another thread about the genius of Goon metagaming. Do you **** holding a picture of Mittani in your free hand? |
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
205
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Posted - 2012.06.07 14:39:00 -
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Hulkageddon was totally the Goons' idea.  Post with your monkey. |

Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:04:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:I suppose the Goons didn't think they were getting enough credit for their brilliance and co-opted OP into making yet another thread about the genius of Goon metagaming. Do you **** holding a picture of Mittani in your free hand?
Actually my main is on his third ban for trolling the goons on this forum. The first was handed out as i photoshopped a number of pictures of Mittan's real life photo into different pictures which mostly were him in poses with men or him dressed as women so as you can tell im not a Mittans fanboi.
But i do like Mittans and co and the silly things they get upto in this game and remember that they are not sociopaths they are just the ultimate roleplayers. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:10:00 -
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oh sup karn eh |

Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:12:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:oh sup karn
hey mate. nice to see you. And for all my trolling im only pissing about :) |

baltec1
1366
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:17:00 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:so you're alliance isn't interested in shooting anything that might shoot back and cause you not to make a profit, aslong as a tech 2 ships dies it's all good,, gotya  so this is indeed all about controlling the market and making the goons richer. thank you for the confirmation.
Stuff that shoots back tends to also come with a tank. Much easyer to go after untanked fools. |

Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx
172
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:52:00 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Christopher Dulson wrote:+1 to the Goons. You truly are the puppeteers of EVE and there is no end to the list of gankers who bought the story and are making you a fortune. We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny. We'd gank Hulks anyway. Not for the payouts, but because it's funny and they don't shoot back.
Actually sometimes they fight back in a Faction or Pirate loot Pi+Ķata. |

Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:14:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:so you're alliance isn't interested in shooting anything that might shoot back and cause you not to make a profit, aslong as a tech 2 ships dies it's all good,, gotya  so this is indeed all about controlling the market and making the goons richer. thank you for the confirmation. Stuff that shoots back tends to also come with a tank. Much easyer to go after untanked fools.
This is the point that most miners tend to overlook |
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