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Aiden Donovan	Posted - 2009.09.28 06:57:00 - [1] Due to large number of inactive corporations with 1-few members, lots of good names/tickers are unavailable for public usage. What I suggest is make a weekly pay for HQ. If someone really want to keep the corp name, he will pay it. It should be a little amount of ISK, like 1-few millions, so if someone isnt coming back to EVE it will disband, and the corp name/ticker will be once again available. Are inactive members really more important than the active? Looking forward for CCP response on the matter. And your opinions guys.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.28 06:59:00 - [2] If you want a corp name, and you think the 1man corp is inactive, petition ccp. They can kick he ceo out and close the corp.. Maybe. Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. LAnce is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar	Posted - 2009.09.28 07:00:00 - [3] I agree. Paying a monthly fee to use a corp name is a good idea. ___________________________________________________ Idea: Train 3 alts at the same time solution.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2009.09.28 08:28:00 - [4] I like the idea. It should not be much of a fee. Just a fee so that the database knows that someone is paying attention. The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2009.09.28 08:30:00 - [5] Don't tell this guy, he thinks CCP is ripping us all off anyhow. But yeah, why not, a simple 'administrative surcharge' of 1000isk per month to CONCORD. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag. Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited!
Vyktor Abyss Gallente The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2009.09.28 09:57:00 - [6] As someone who has had a broken PC for long periods I'd hate to lose the corp I started 3 or 4 years ago just because my PC is broken. I agree that dead, zero man corps and alliances should be deleted from the DB though, which probably happens already. The real problem though is that picking names uses the same DB table or whatever as alliance name, alliance short name, corp name, corp ticker, and character names. So for example, because of the inactive noobcorp player names Abyss, from 2003, I could not have my first choice of corporation name/shortname... Its frustrating, but 1 month is hardly a fair "activity timeout" for a lot of Eve's players.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:05:00 - [7] Just put a period after the name or use xxxXXXXxxxXXXxxxxXXXxxxx. It tells everyone that you are extra cool Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:07:00 - [8] xxXXMyLiTtLePoNyXXxx See, super cool innit ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag. Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited!
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:14:00 - [9] HQ should have a rent just like an office, only smaller (perhaps a flat rate). Will cure a lot of this reaaaal quick. --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:18:00 - [10] I have a better idea! Corp names should be like url's, if you want an url thats taken then you would have to pay for it. If people lack the creativity to come up with something cool, then sees someones elses name and then goes "Waaaa I want that name" then you should pay for it Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia

Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:19:00 - [11] Edited by: Serge Bastana on 28/09/2009 10:19:44 I was trying to think how it would affect dead corps but yeah, it does make sense, their office rents may have long expired, if they ever had any but the HQ can just sit there without an office forever. Even with the new feature in the corp window to auto pay rents (being tested on SiSi), the wallet is going to run dry eventually. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag. Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited!
Gaelan Lionhardt Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:20:00 - [12] Kind of agree with this, especially since the new tax "laws" are going to force a lot of players to create 1 man corporations, every name/ticker under the sun is going to be taken soon.
SharpMango The Khanates	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:28:00 - [13] i propose an alternative the 'Hostile Takeover' a corp can put down any offer, even 1 isk to the shareholders to take that corp over. they have 1 month to decide. if ZERO votes are taken on the matter, the corp is automatically taken over. this makes sure that inactive corps are closed. the problem with having a small fee to make sure corps arent inactive is.. if someone has 100 mill in their corp wallet, they can just continue to have their inactive corp active for several years. these hostile takeovers will also encourage LOTS of corps to go out there and try to find inactive corps in the hope of taking over their assets. I have a good feeling this would work very very well.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:54:00 - [14] Originally by: SharpMango if someone has 100 mill in their corp wallet, they can just continue to have their inactive corp active for several years. i was under the impression someone actually had to log in to pay corp bills? Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. LAnce is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2009.09.28 10:58:00 - [15] At the moment yes, but there is a new feature being tested on SiSi right now, which I discovered the other day that lets you automate the payment process for various bills. Those with corp access can go check out the new tabs on the test server. This would allow someone to set their bills payment to auto once Dominion rolls around, should these features be implemented as is, and go on a jolly holiday to Pluto. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag. Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited!
Anhur Shu Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2009.09.28 13:19:00 - [16] correct me if I'm wrong here, but if an account goes inactive doesn't the wallet go inactive also? So if someone has 100mil in their wallet it makes no difference...once the account goes inactive the funds in the wallet are frozen. When I recently reactivated my alt's account I could not use the ISK that was still in the wallet until the account was actually active. -------------------------------------------------- I don't care if I suck, so shut the hell up!
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2009.09.28 13:48:00 - [17] Are MMO players as a whole really so stupid that they can't come up with an original name? Is it true that the internets haz suxed ur branz out? Sheesh... there are only about 10 billion combinations of letters that haven't been used yet for tickers. As for names... Darth Vader, Darth vaader, Darth vador, xdarthvaderx. darthvader1, darthxvader, etc.... Seriously... What a bunch of brainless ******s Mr Epeen has spoken
Crimsoneer Gallente Knowledge Stick Station	Posted - 2009.09.28 13:59:00 - [18] Yeah, because it looks so professional to be called Darth Vaaad3r. Seriously the man has a point. Way too many good names are probably taken but not in use. --------------------------------------- Pods and Pills, a low sec blog

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.09.28 14:04:00 - [19] Names are one, if not The founding stones of this game, it's what make you - you, your corporation your corporation. The identity is what makes us unique, removing that no matter reason simply fails the game imo. Secure 3rd party service

Mr Epeen	Posted - 2009.09.28 14:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Crimsoneer Yeah, because it looks so professional to be called Darth Vaaad3r. Despite your apparent lack of reading comprehension, we are in agreement. Weird Mr Epeen

Iron Jaw Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.28 14:15:00 - [21] Edited by: Iron Jaw on 28/09/2009 14:16:32 Originally by: Mr Epeen Are MMO players as a whole really so stupid that they can't come up with an original name? Is it true that the internets haz suxed ur branz out? Sheesh... there are only about 10 billion combinations of letters that haven't been used yet for tickers. As for names... Darth Vader, Darth vaader, Darth vador, xdarthvaderx. darthvader1, darthxvader, etc.... Seriously... What a bunch of brainless ******s Mr Epeen has spoken Why is it on every thread you always get one person that trys and ruins what has been a perfectly valid thread and discussion. With that said id quite like to keep my employment history without it being Deleted because somone wants to reuse the name of a corp i was once in.
Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.09.28 14:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Chribba Names are one, if not The founding stones of this game, it's what make you - you, your corporation your corporation. The identity is what makes us unique, removing that no matter reason simply fails the game imo. Agreed. Names mean much more in EVE where the actions of a single player or corporation can potentially affect everyone in the game. If names of inactive corps were freed up, the first thing we'd see is people claiming the names of all the old, famous and now inactive corporations. These corps deserve to keep their history, they helped shape EVE and had a big impact on many players. I have an alt holding an old corp of mine, we were never particularly well known (although I still occasionally get contacted about mercenary work), if I made the corp again I'd probably choose a different name, but that name is attached to some of the best fights I've ever had. If I was to go back to empire wars, I'd definitely want to do it under that name. If you're a member of Space Mining and Industrial Corporation, you probably aren't too attached to the name, but then no one else with any imagination is likely to complain that it's taken.
Shirei Fenikkusu Knights of the Eternal Flame	Posted - 2009.09.28 16:25:00 - [23] Definitely don't want people taking the names of old corps/alliances that have had a major influence in Eve, but I do agree that there needs to be some mechanism to free up old inactive names. I have an idea for such a mechanism, but I will post that another day in the appropriate forum. Seriously though, people really need to try and be more original with their names. My name for example is "Shirei Fenikkusu", which means "Commander Phoeinx" in Japanese. I would bet anything that the name "Commander Phoenix" is already taken; however, using the translation allowed me to create a character with a name that had the same meaning, but unique. Sure, someone can always come along and add an extra character to my name, but who has the original correct spelling?
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2009.09.28 16:50:00 - [24] There's a reason some folks hold a corp open using an alt.. Mostly because it has such a cool name. Any automatic 'sorry, you forgot to click here...you're gone' mechanic is pretty damn bogus. (And more than one alliance has gone poof because of this). I'd hate to lose the IEEE ticker to 'oops..didn't click here'. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
SturmMiner Finnish Storm Pioneers Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.09.28 17:08:00 - [25] Agree with OP. Really great idea. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning EU
azeral kulik Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.28 17:11:00 - [26] dont remove the names but if all the inactive corps could be kicked off the hq list it would be helpful. the back of your neck smells lovely
Shionoya Risa The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2009.09.28 17:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Vaal Erit It tells everyone that you are extra cool You leave my coolstop alone! (Forgot it on the ticker though :/) -----
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.09.28 17:15:00 - [28] I would suggest that after 3 consecutive years of inactivity a corp name is returned to the pool and the old corp renamed 'Player Corp 8325274' so all the assets and such will still be around if they ever decide to resub. Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.09.28 17:34:00 - [29] CCP needs to delete any trial account which has not logged in in over a year. They also need to delete any corporation that has been closed or the CEO has not been active for at least a year. Way too many names are taken right now due to trial accounts and 1 man corps which belong to long long inactive CEO accounts.
Nidhiesk	Posted - 2009.09.28 18:14:00 - [30] gawd your all ******s. the CEO already pays this. its called having an office in a station. can go from around 250k to 500m a month or more. Do some research before posting this non sense. Btw, its his business if he wants to be alone in a corp. Perhaps theres a good reason for it so before saying "make him pay cause he's alone" ask yourself why his he alone in the first place. /bit.ching

Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2009.09.28 18:21:00 - [31] Originally by: Nidhiesk gawd your all ****s. the CEO already pays this. its called having an office in a station. can go from around 250k to 500m a month or more. Do some research before posting this non sense. My corp has not had an office in a station for ages. I refuse to pay the stupid prices for an office in a station where I would want one. And I am not ****ed enough to pay for one where I don't want one. So to quote from something I just read "Do some research before posting this non sense". Also reported for getting round the profanity filter.
Kestrix	Posted - 2009.09.28 18:28:00 - [32] I have an inactive alt who's CEO of a corp, and NO you can't have the corps name! I thought of it, it's mine. Go think up your own corp name instead of trying to pinch someone else's.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.09.28 18:33:00 - [33] Originally by: Kestrix I have an inactive alt who's CEO of a corp, and NO you can't have the corps name! I thought of it, it's mine. Go think up your own corp name instead of trying to pinch someone else's. So what exactly does that ceo of an inactive corp do past taking up database space? Remember ccp owns everything in the game including anything you do so if deleting old unused names has a positive effect in thier eyes then better find something for him to do that actually contributes to the game and lables it as active. Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal
Kestrix	Posted - 2009.09.28 18:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Kestrix I have an inactive alt who's CEO of a corp, and NO you can't have the corps name! I thought of it, it's mine. Go think up your own corp name instead of trying to pinch someone else's. So what exactly does that ceo of an inactive corp do past taking up database space? Remember ccp owns everything in the game including anything you do so if deleting old unused names has a positive effect in thier eyes then better find something for him to do that actually contributes to the game and lables it as active. He's there so when I have a larger disposable income, I can re-activate that account and then have the ability to setup high sec POS. I will be quite upset when I re-activate the account if CCP have taken the name of my corp and handed it to another player just becasue it's been inactive for the best part of a year... after all I am still a paying customer and that in itself should safe guard any inactive alt's I may have.
Sral TBear letter of marque	Posted - 2009.09.28 19:40:00 - [35] well sometimes a good name can kinda be an investment. Letter of marque actualy have some isk value. The day im not thre and it heads for hybernation, i will sell it off.... last bid for corp was 1.7 BIL :) but heck, the ammount high enough, i sell that corp including grandma.... TBear
Shirei Fenikkusu Knights of the Eternal Flame	Posted - 2009.09.28 19:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Kestrix ... after all I am still a paying customer and that in itself should safe guard any inactive alt's I may have. The problem with that is there is nothing explicitly linking your active accounts to your inactive alts, unless the alt was created recently with that alternate character discount promotion. From the perspective of a database administrator, your inactive alt is just another inactive account nobody has touched in almost a year.
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2009.09.28 19:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Nidhiesk gawd your all ****s. the CEO already pays this. its called having an office in a station. can go from around 250k to 500m a month or more. Do some research before posting this non sense. Btw, its his business if he wants to be alone in a corp. Perhaps theres a good reason for it so before saying "make him pay cause he's alone" ask yourself why his he alone in the first place. /***ing Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist I kicked one of my alts out of my corp because "I vant to be alone"...the other alt has a lot of BP's and corp assets in his personal hangar, but I'm vorking on it, dahling....
Rhohan Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2009.09.28 20:02:00 - [38] Someone should not loose their corp name because they have gone on deployment, gotten busy, or whatever. Come up with a new Corp name. It isn't that hard.
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.09.28 20:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Rhohan Someone should not loose their corp name because they have gone on deployment, gotten busy, or whatever. Come up with a new Corp name. It isn't that hard. Busy for a year? Not paying for their account? They are not a customer and don't deserve anything imo. Especially trial accounts.
Rhohan Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2009.09.28 21:04:00 - [40] Originally by: Adeline Grey Busy for a year? Not paying for their account? They are not a customer and don't deserve anything imo. Especially trial accounts. Some deployments can be 18 months. Some times you get busy IRL, and you shouldn't be punished for this in any way. Not everyone will be able to keep an active subscription the entire time this game runs. Think 5-10 yrs down the road. There are a few things in this game that you should never loose. Any char name you choose. Any Corp name you choose. Plus, you shouldn't be able to loose the Alliance name you choose, but that is a flaw in the system. I don't think trial accounts should be able to create a Corp/Alliance, or be made CEO. I would think this is the case, but have never tested it.

Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.09.28 21:10:00 - [41] Originally by: Rhohan Originally by: Adeline Grey Busy for a year? Not paying for their account? They are not a customer and don't deserve anything imo. Especially trial accounts. Some deployments can be 18 months. Some times you get busy IRL, and you shouldn't be punished for this in any way. Not everyone will be able to keep an active subscription the entire time this game runs. Think 5-10 yrs down the road. There are a few things in this game that you should never loose. Any char name you choose. Any Corp name you choose. Plus, you shouldn't be able to loose the Alliance name you choose, but that is a flaw in the system. I don't think trial accounts should be able to create a Corp/Alliance, or be made CEO. I would think this is the case, but have never tested it. There are literaly hundreds of thousands of player character names which are being used up by trial account scouts from back when you could play a real account and a trial account at the same time. These names should be freed up after 1 year of inactivity at the most. Corp names I can understand what you are saying, but maybe 3 years would be a good limit? Start freeing up those corp names which have not had more than 1 member, and that one member has not logged in for 3 years or something. They could do at least something to free up all the names which are taken. It is must be a STAGGERING number of inactive alts which have never skilled a single skill.
Jarna Amarr Eternal Frontier	Posted - 2009.09.28 21:10:00 - [42] Originally by: Chribba Names are one, if not The founding stones of this game, it's what make you - you, your corporation your corporation. The identity is what makes us unique, removing that no matter reason simply fails the game imo. Yes, but still, if some corp has been inactive for so long how does that help the game? It would free up some database too. What if I have a corp themed around Angels/Demons and want to call it "The Fallen". Well, I can't have it because it's taken. If the corp is dead, why shouldn't I be able to have it?
Mrmuttley National Health Service	Posted - 2009.09.28 22:41:00 - [43] Guess the question is where do you draw the line Player names and corps mean a lot to some people and less to others. A good RL firend died while he had and active eve account. We all met up in a system in our current region put a few cans out in a safe spot with message of good will to our fallan comrade. I think it would be a bit harsh for his character to be deleted and for me to see someone with his name wandering around Chaven or Kisogo as a week old char one day. Be original think up a new name. I saw a new Char the other day with a great name. It's really not hard. .
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.09.28 22:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Mrmuttley Guess the question is where do you draw the line Player names and corps mean a lot to some people and less to others. A good RL firend died while he had and active eve account. We all met up in a system in our current region put a few cans out in a safe spot with message of good will to our fallan comrade. I think it would be a bit harsh for his character to be deleted and for me to see someone with his name wandering around Chaven or Kisogo as a week old char one day. Be original think up a new name. I saw a new Char the other day with a great name. It's really not hard. Any player name with over 1m SP, as in it spent time training, should be exempt. I am talking about alts and trial accounts, and people holding names from when they tried eve for 2 days and hated it never to return back in 2004.
Celeritas 5k Caldari Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.09.28 23:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Adeline Grey Any player name with over 1m SP, as in it spent time training, should be exempt. I am talking about alts and trial accounts, and people holding names from when they tried eve for 2 days and hated it never to return back in 2004. This seems like a pretty sensible solution that frees up unused names while keeping significant ones intact. For those of you who are saying that it doesn't matter-- Think up a couple names that would be cool, especially names of semi-famous people, events, or organizations, or other obscure pop culture/historical references and then look them up in game. Or even any word that's not completely made up... More often than not it's already taken by some several year old character who is still in a noobcorp and has zero standings. You happy with that situation? Think they should keep that name? - Always be Happy, Never be satisfied.


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