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AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:16:00 - [1] Quote: CCP Zymurgist \| 2009.09.29 14:02:40 If your friends are still having trouble deciding if EVE is for them have them watch ôThe Butterfly Effect.ö I think this sums it up pretty nicely. Of course PvP is a major game component, but I think presenting EVE as being only a pew-pewing player versus player game does not really fit what the game ultimately has to offer. I have been playing for over two years now, and have not had a single PvP encounter - yet there is enough material to keep me entertained and I still have things to do I have never done before that do not involve PvP. I short, I would love to see a teaser that caters to the non-PvPer. -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:19:00 - [2] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 16:20:16 Mining! Try to not get too excited. It has rocks exploding. And its run at ludicrous speed. --- Originally by: Eve Forums ...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:27:00 - [3] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 16:20:16 Mining! Try to not get too excited. It has rocks exploding. And its run at ludicrous speed. I started playing EVE because it promised I could do just that. I am sure I am not the only one :) -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Gone'Postal Void Engineers Mass - Effect	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:29:00 - [4] Tell them to start here: Here - Link safe (youtube) Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve. Back after a 10 day ban. \0/
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:32:00 - [5] Originally by: Gone'Postal Tell them to start here: Here - Link safe (youtube) Yay, it has the Office Assistant! --- Originally by: Eve Forums ...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Gone'Postal Tell them to start here: Here - Link safe (youtube) lol, if you replace "Office" with "EVE Online" it might just work :) -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:37:00 - [7] Edited by: Cors on 29/09/2009 16:38:01 ok. Lets see... Mining.. Production.. markets... don't think so.. Exploration? Now that could get some subs.. you'd loose it soon after as they find out that each system/wh is basically the same. Faction warfare? Would work.. but again. it's pvp. 0.0 alliance level strategy. Now THAT could pull people in. The clashing of two or more alliance's. Fighting for the same space. Upgrading their space. Defending their space. Make the video from the CEO's/Dir's eye view. The logistics, the coordination, the politics, the spying... THAT could get a lot of subs if done right. The simple truth is 80% of the "professions" in game have 3 goals. To be the best in that profession because you want to be the best, to finance PVP, or as a component of another profession.
Ame Sonoda Caldari Requiem of the Sinner	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:42:00 - [8] already been done
Josefius Gallente JOKAS Industries	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:53:00 - [9] Originally by: AeonOfTime Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 16:20:16 Mining! Try to not get too excited. It has rocks exploding. And its run at ludicrous speed. I started playing EVE because it promised I could do just that. I am sure I am not the only one :) No, you're not. I'm sure a large portion of the pvp driven people will be playing Rust when it comes out anyway :)
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 16:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Cors Edited by: Cors on 29/09/2009 16:38:01 ok. Lets see... Mining.. Production.. markets... don't think so.. Exploration? Now that could get some subs.. you'd loose it soon after as they find out that each system/wh is basically the same. Faction warfare? Would work.. but again. it's pvp. 0.0 alliance level strategy. Now THAT could pull people in. The clashing of two or more alliance's. Fighting for the same space. Upgrading their space. Defending their space. Make the video from the CEO's/Dir's eye view. The logistics, the coordination, the politics, the spying... THAT could get a lot of subs if done right. The simple truth is 80% of the "professions" in game have 3 goals. To be the best in that profession because you want to be the best, to finance PVP, or as a component of another profession. You are missing the point. I do not want a teaser on just ONE profession, but one that will show how versatile EVE really is. I would try to put all these together (not particularly in that order): - Mining - Missions: level 1 to level 5 (solo or cooperative) - The new Epic Arcs - Production and Invention (yes, a single player CAN build a Titan...) - Market (yes, a single player CAN influence the lives of thousands of players) - Exploration, Wormholes and Salvaging - Factional Warfare - Player Owned Structures (yes, a single player CAN build a Deathstar) -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies

Grath Telkin Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.09.29 17:07:00 - [11] Originally by: AeonOfTime I have been playing for over two years now, and have not had a single PvP encounter Actually, if reading your above post right, you HAVE engaged in PVP. Market manipulation, or market seeding in any way is in fact PVP. Your competing with other players for market superiority. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 17:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Ame Sonoda already been done Nice video, but I would like an official teaser from CCP in the same kind of quality than The Butterfly Effect :) -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.29 17:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 16:20:16 Mining! Try to not get too excited. It has rocks exploding. And its run at ludicrous speed. Oh wow. Its been over two years since heat came in? Man, i still haven't used it once _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Armoured C Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.09.29 17:44:00 - [14] Originally by: AeonOfTime Quote: CCP Zymurgist \| 2009.09.29 14:02:40 If your friends are still having trouble deciding if EVE is for them have them watch ôThe Butterfly Effect.ö I think this sums it up pretty nicely. Of course PvP is a major game component, but I think presenting EVE as being only a pew-pewing player versus player game does not really fit what the game ultimately has to offer. I have been playing for over two years now, and have not had a single PvP encounter - yet there is enough material to keep me entertained and I still have things to do I have never done before that do not involve PvP. I short, I would love to see a teaser that caters to the non-PvPer. you have had a PVP encounter eve is a entirely PVP game. Your thinking of it to laterally. Don't think of pvp as just combat mining is PVP, playing the markets is PVP, The only thing that isn't PVP is missions but if you sell the loot that is PVP. Armoured C Steven Mason FOR CSM with added pirate hat
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 17:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: AeonOfTime I have been playing for over two years now, and have not had a single PvP encounter Actually, if reading your above post right, you HAVE engaged in PVP. Market manipulation, or market seeding in any way is in fact PVP. Your competing with other players for market superiority. True enough, but you don't see that brand of PvP advertised either! -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Marcus Atntony The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project	Posted - 2009.09.29 18:06:00 - [16] This probably has more to do with how you put it all together in an ad. As in why do people always have to think of eve industry = looser loner mining in a hs belt :S, I am in an industrial corp, I dont think I mined after my 2nd month. We have been through countless wars, pvp runs, and lots of combat. PvP and industry in eve go hand in hand when your in player corps and alliances with goals.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.29 18:54:00 - [17] Eve is a PvP game. Ultimatly, everything you do ends up as a PvP choice. What Eve is not is solely combat PvP. Much more PvP takes place than just combat. While certain activities are PvE in a limited scope, on the grander scheme they fit in to the PvP function of Eve. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.09.29 19:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Armoured C you have had a PVP encounter eve is a entirely PVP game. Your thinking of it to laterally. Don't think of pvp as just combat mining is PVP, playing the markets is PVP, The only thing that isn't PVP is missions but if you sell the loot that is PVP. Granted, but you do not see that aspect marketed in the teasers, only the combat PvP aspect... -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Cpt Branko The Scope	Posted - 2009.09.29 21:06:00 - [19] Originally by: AeonOfTime Originally by: Armoured C you have had a PVP encounter eve is a entirely PVP game. Your thinking of it to laterally. Don't think of pvp as just combat mining is PVP, playing the markets is PVP, The only thing that isn't PVP is missions but if you sell the loot that is PVP. Granted, but you do not see that aspect marketed in the teasers, only the combat PvP aspect... Seriously, 0.01 ISK undercutting in Jita is NOT FUN to watch. It's not a excel commercial! Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.09.29 21:15:00 - [20] Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if you could snag a couple of subscribers by doing a spoof of those old "from grain to bread"-style educational films, except it describes how T2/T3 is made… Tagline: "We don't have crafting… we have industry." ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.29 21:34:00 - [21] This is EVE I don't know where you get the idea that a video based on the PvE aspects can be anything resembling interesting. It would probably make people quit and not want to sign up for eve if anything. Looking at 200 market orders and modifying them by .01 isk? Clicking build and then hours later you get the item? EPIC ACTION! Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
AeonOfTime Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.10.01 15:00:00 - [22] Okay, so far I have only seen opinions of PvPers that don't want EVE to be anything else than just that. Anyone else? -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.01 15:17:00 - [23] Originally by: AeonOfTime Okay, so far I have only seen opinions of PvPers that don't want EVE to be anything else than just that. Anyone else? Eve IS nothing but PvP. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
SomebodyKickedMyDog	Posted - 2009.10.01 21:14:00 - [24] - logging in is pvp (when there's a queue) - undocking in jita is pvp (competing to warp out before being bumped) - coming up with witty remarks in local is pvp (coming up with better comments/insults than others)


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