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Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 02:36:00 - [1] i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it ? is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? spam the **** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? i need ideas
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.30 02:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it ? is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? spam the ** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? i need ideas Nope. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by:** CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.09.30 02:39:00 - [3] Don't die. Don't kill. Problem solved.
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 02:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Khemul Zula Don't die. Don't kill. Problem solved. no it isn't maybe the initial question had a bad emphasis. i can live with killmails, but i can't stand organized killboards. i don't want my data to appear there. if no solution is found, i'll resort to spam the boards with fake mails to make my data useless
Modrak Vseth Veto.	Posted - 2009.09.30 02:57:00 - [5] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper Originally by: Khemul Zula Don't die. Don't kill. Problem solved. no it isn't maybe the initial question had a bad emphasis. i can live with killmails, but i can't stand organized killboards. i don't want my data to appear there. if no solution is found, i'll resort to spam the boards with fake mails to make my data useless And then they'll simply password protect the KB. It's just a KB, get on with your life.
Eliza Farcaster Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2009.09.30 02:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? No, it's CCP's data. Remember its just a game and stop worrying to much about it. If you are seriously that bothered by it, I'd recommend you find another game to play. (and not in a mean way).
Shakari Sween Gallente Urban Mining Corp Rising Phoenix Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it ? is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? spam the **** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? i need ideas Big flaw in your logic, its not you data. You just pay to use the data that ccp owns. There is only one way to stop killmails, dont undock. huh? oh its the signature!
AlexAllgood Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:06:00 - [8] I don't think anyone will notice your "pvp" activities.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper Originally by: Khemul Zula Don't die. Don't kill. Problem solved. no it isn't maybe the initial question had a bad emphasis. i can live with killmails, but i can't stand organized killboards. i don't want my data to appear there. if no solution is found, i'll resort to spam the boards with fake mails to make my data useless But...it does solve it. If you don't cause any killmails to get created then your data will not appear on killboards. Rather simple. Much easier than petty vandalism.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:08:00 - [10] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it? No. You can't prevent others posting what information they have. Quote: is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them? No. It's CCPs data and they're not interested in preventing website owners from displaying it. Quote: spam the ** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless? That's why most killboards demand passwords for entering killmails Quote:** i need ideas Don't bother. You will NEVER be able to keep your "leet setups" secret. And they're most likely not "leet setups" you invented since we have EFTers, alliance specialists and entire forums dedicated to finding the most effective setups in the current metagame. What you can do is to avoid being predictable. The only way to make killmail information useless is to not fly the same predictable lazy-ass setup every time. If someone starts to fly (or preferably before someone starts to fly) a setup dedicated to countering your setup, fly something that is effective against the main metagame but extraordinarily effective against any setups designed to counter your previous setup. Overall, KMs are here to stay. Live with it. ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper spam the ** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? This is a good way to ** off people and have them come after you. Fake kill mails usually result in bannings among other things. But i know if you post fake mails on battle clinic, they get really unhappy. -------------------------- WTB a sig, or moderation of my sig by all the hot CCP girls.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:29:00 - [12] Even the 'best' PvPers have died many, many, many, many, many, times. I wouldn't let it bother you.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.30 03:37:00 - [13] I used to know a guy who recycled his Character every time he died. He didn't get very far. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Mister Xerox	Posted - 2009.09.30 06:13:00 - [14] Yeah. Stop dying.
Major Templar Caldari KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it ? If you don't like it then don't PvP or PvE or undock for that matter. Your gonna die/kill someone, that's gonna get KESed and posted and shared and shown for all that want to see and care enough to see, which most likely ain't many, and its not gonna matter. Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? It ain't yours, its CCPs and then the boards to do with as they wish. Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper spam the ** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? And most boards have IP blockers out there and require passwords to post and you don't have a chance of that Originally by:** Schayol Sunkeeper i need ideas From what I can tell here is this theory why he asks. Some alliances/corporations don't let pirates in their organization. This guy probably has some past history where he attacked some carebear or something and doesn't want that corp/alliance to know. Next he will be asking to remove past employment history too. Either that or he lost some really expensive fit ship that will make most laugh and some cry and some want to gank him even more. Plain and simple, don't want it recorded, then don't play this game, go and find a game that is single player NPC based so there is no worry about killmails. Major Templar Senator's Aide Kings Of Eden Sev3rance
Haramir Haleths Caldari Nutella Bande	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:07:00 - [16] heh ? What personel data ?
Trident Ested	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:10:00 - [17] Why do you have such an issue with it? I really doubt that your RL name is Schayol Sunkeeper therefore there is nothing that can be indentified to you outside the game.
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:11:00 - [18] Kill more, die less.
Mrmuttley National Health Service	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:15:00 - [19] Lemme guess it was the Coercer Loss That you want removed? .
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it ? is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? spam the **** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? i need ideas Your best protection is to be completely irrelevent in game so that no-one cares about what you fly.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:24:00 - [21] How is it yours????? What about the other people on the killmail, don't then have any claim to it? ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:39:00 - [22] Everything pertaining to the game is the property of CCP. They have allowed the public posting of killmails by use of killboards, so no law will help. Spamming fake mails will just get you IP blocked in a hurry, so not a long term solution All you can do is ask a killboard admin to erase your name wherever it appears. You'll probably be laughed at and numerous posts made here to ridicule you even further but that is an option.
Ralle030583 EVSCO Industries Eve Service Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.30 09:50:00 - [23] Edited by: Ralle030583 on 30/09/2009 09:51:30 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida All you can do is ask a killboard admin to erase your name wherever it appears. You'll probably be laughed at and numerous posts made here to ridicule you even further but that is an option. the bolded part ;-) think we have once a month somebody join our support irc and ask for removing his mails... everytime funny how they try to argument Greetings Ralle030583 Co-Owner EVSCO
Karbowiak Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.09.30 10:40:00 - [24] shut up you noob and get lost.. If you dont like killmails or organized boards, then dont use them.. or dont post your mails _EVER_.. ps: http://eve-kill.net/?a=search&searchtype=pilot&searchphrase=Schayol%20Sunkeeper Not like you are of any relevance when you arent even listed on eve-kill.. so again, ** off and die * Co-Owner and Creator of EVSCO
gfldex	Posted - 2009.09.30 10:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it? is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? Lets say some football teams doesnt do that well and asked to not make the result public. What would you think of that team? Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper spam the **** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? I'm quite sure that would be denial of service and therefore illegal. If you want to be sure you need to ask a judge.
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:26:00 - [26] Im not a fan of kill boards - I think they encourage silly game play and counter productive tactics in combat. But theres nothing you can do about them. Wherever you went - Here you are.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:30:00 - [27] For some the game is Killboard Online. Eve is just the tool some use to play Killboard Online.
N Ano	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:30:00 - [28] Originally by: AlexAllgood I don't think anyone cares about your "pvp" activities. Fixed for accuracy Originally by: Blane Xero SoonÖ. Shortly AfterÖ Iceland Conquers the WorldÖ
Kathryn Dougans Amarr Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:46:00 - [29] forum-breaking-facepalm.jpg I give up, I'm tired of having to mother everyone. Being a single mother is quite hard.
N'tek alar Minmatar	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Mrmuttley Lemme guess it was the Coercer Loss That you want removed? Seems more likely to me that he got mocked for his medium dual-tanked Apoc with 50/50 pulses/beams and wants to hide it before it happens again. ------------------------- I'm not shirtless damnit!
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:55:00 - [31] Edited by: Schayol Sunkeeper on 30/09/2009 11:55:52 Edited by: Schayol Sunkeeper on 30/09/2009 11:55:35 Originally by: N'tek alar Originally by: Mrmuttley Lemme guess it was the Coercer Loss That you want removed? Seems more likely to me that he got mocked for his medium dual-tanked Apoc with 50/50 pulses/beams and wants to hide it before it happens again. you know that kill is 1,5 years old ?
Sky Marshal IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:03:00 - [32] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 30/09/2009 12:04:37 Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 For some the game is Killboard Online. Eve is just the tool some use to play Killboard Online. /thread There is a serious problem in EVE as the competition is not avoidable because of the e-peeners. A game has the purpose to be fun, not to be used as a tool to compare yourself to everyone, to satisfy an ego or to mock anyone who have curious fit/big loss/etc... As people hate lose, Killboards as they are today just demotivate people to try PVP, to not have to deal with the consequence of a bad history who, with Syndication, is impossible to control. It is sometimes worse, as the e-peener use Killboards to teach lessons of how players should play, or sometimes to make them shut up (½ You have few kills, so shut up and come back when you have more, after that you will be free to post +). This only contribute to reduce the size of the gangs, as the majority don't want play with morons. Some players will say that the fault is only on the killed ones, but they should skill Human Psychology at 1... So time to tax NPC Corp or others things, or some debates on the risk/reward thing, who are not really the cause of the problem... "Top Losers", "Top Killers", etc... In one word, "Statistics" should be removed to only keep the intel function of Killboards. This would be not enough to reduce the Killboard unattractiveness, but it should be a good step. _______ Local is fine, period. CCP devs, you nerfed shield resists by 8.3% but armor by 7.1% (The old Explo/EM "10 points" Nerf). When will you correct this inconsistency ?
Kiva Aharan	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:04:00 - [33] Killboards serve a useful purpose beyond the usual epeen waving. It is a collection of combat intelligence collected the hard way. Some may not like it, but it can definitely be used to figure out the strengths and weaknesses of a potential opponent as well as what friends they may have along, and honestly I like that. Handy if you're thinking of ganking that guy who flipped your can or otherwise looks like an easy target.
Amerilia	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:06:00 - [34] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Spamming fake mails will just get you IP blocked in a hurry, so not a long term solution In Germany you get a new IP every 24 hours, sometimes its quite handy to be german
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:08:00 - [35] Originally by: Amerilia Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Spamming fake mails will just get you IP blocked in a hurry, so not a long term solution In Germany you get a new IP every 24 hours, sometimes its quite handy to be german was about to post that, dynamic ip ranges are ftw
Mrmuttley National Health Service	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:53:00 - [36] Originally by: N'tek alar Originally by: Mrmuttley Lemme guess it was the Coercer Loss That you want removed? Seems more likely to me that he got mocked for his medium dual-tanked Apoc with 50/50 pulses/beams and wants to hide it before it happens again. I didnt look at the fit on that because it was in Rancer and assumed the OP had been hit by ebil pirates but since you mention it that is a proper fail-fit. @ the OP you see what you have done to yourself here? If you hadn't come on the forum and mentioned how unhappy you were with KBs nobody would be looking for your killmails. By drawing attention to yourself like this and your fail fits like the fit of that Apoc and the unarmed coercer that you got killed in (the catalyst wasnt bad but avoid the MWD for sig radius and power grid reasons ) With this atention you can now expect people to look for you as a target because they know you dont have the knowledge to fit ships right now. My advice you be to read up on tactics (can flipping and ninja looting flagging) and fittings (one weapon system and one tank system only in most cases) before undocking again. .
Sub Trader	Posted - 2009.09.30 15:09:00 - [37] just give up on the notion of protecting your characters combat history, killmails serve a variety of purposes ingame, for example, it helps on recruiting competant and appropriate players to your corp a well as providing battle summaries.
Bo Bojangles Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.09.30 15:19:00 - [38] I guess I'm an e-peener so to speak. I've always loved the killmail system even though it does expose my habits/noobfits/terrible k:d ratio. I like having that record to look back on from time to time. OP why do you even care?
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2009.09.30 15:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Kathryn Dougans Being a single mother is quite hard. How you doin?!? ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.09.30 15:49:00 - [40] Quote: There is a serious problem in EVE as the competition is not avoidable because of the e-peeners. A game has the purpose to be fun, not to be used as a tool to compare yourself to everyone, Oh yes, absolutely. I hate games that have a score or other measurable statistic used to determine who is more successful at it. If only they would strip the scores out of baseball, football, and tennis... and get rid of all those other statitics they unfairly keep like number of passing yards, RBI's, or double faults. They inevitably make "someone" feel bad about themselves. Can't those fella's just go out and have fun playing with the ball? I mean really, grow up. All those statistics exist for is for them to measure their manhood against each other with. No more of this silly I'm 1/10th of a second faster than you, just run around the track and enjoy the workout you greifer. So yes, down with scores, down with statistics. They are the devils plaything. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Reincarnator Amarr Smallville Industries Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Mrmuttley Originally by: N'tek alar Originally by: Mrmuttley Lemme guess it was the Coercer Loss That you want removed? Seems more likely to me that he got mocked for his medium dual-tanked Apoc with 50/50 pulses/beams and wants to hide it before it happens again. I didnt look at the fit on that because it was in Rancer and assumed the OP had been hit by ebil pirates but since you mention it that is a proper fail-fit. @ the OP you see what you have done to yourself here? If you hadn't come on the forum and mentioned how unhappy you were with KBs nobody would be looking for your killmails. By drawing attention to yourself like this and your fail fits like the fit of that Apoc and the unarmed coercer that you got killed in (the catalyst wasnt bad but avoid the MWD for sig radius and power grid reasons ) With this atention you can now expect people to look for you as a target because they know you dont have the knowledge to fit ships right now. My advice you be to read up on tactics (can flipping and ninja looting flagging) and fittings (one weapon system and one tank system only in most cases) before undocking again. This to be quite honest. Originally by: Hango Please refrain from posting if you have something to contribute. Thank you. -Hango Sig'd
Marsha Greeves	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:09:00 - [42] it's not your data. Everything is property of CCP
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:54:00 - [43] Edited by: Schayol Sunkeeper on 30/09/2009 16:59:26 Edited by: Schayol Sunkeeper on 30/09/2009 16:58:42 Originally by: Mrmuttley Originally by: N'tek alar I didnt look at the fit on that because it was in Rancer and assumed the OP had been hit by ebil pirates but since you mention it that is a proper fail-fit. @ the OP you see what you have done to yourself here? If you hadn't come on the forum and mentioned how unhappy you were with KBs nobody would be looking for your killmails. By drawing attention to yourself like this and your fail fits like the fit of that Apoc and the unarmed coercer that you got killed in (the catalyst wasnt bad but avoid the MWD for sig radius and power grid reasons ) With this atention you can now expect people to look for you as a target because they know you dont have the knowledge to fit ships right now. My advice you be to read up on tactics (can flipping and ninja looting flagging) and fittings (one weapon system and one tank system only in most cases) before undocking again. tbh. you fail, hard - look at the dates, the apoc was 1,5 years ago - the coercer was a loot ship, unfortunately the killmail does NOT show how i stole him 3x the cost of my ship in salvage and brought it home safe in my cov ops @ the rest : you missed the point of the thread, i don't want to hide my kills and losses, as beeing said, i don't care about killmails, i DO care about killBOARDS that extract more data from killmails than originally intended. the worst case are K/D ranking systems and isk destroyed / lost statistics, because they don't serve ANY purpose other than epeening also: the amount of butthurt in this thread makes me want to spam the boards even more, if only for the lulz
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:57:00 - [44] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper i don't like the idea that someone keeps record of my pvp activities, can i somehow prevent it ? is this "my" data under law and can i force the websites owners to remove them ? spam the **** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? i need ideas Cry more.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.09.30 17:00:00 - [45] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper spam the ** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? If 10% of the accounts PvP (it's surely more), the killboards are filled with 30,000 characters. How many do you keep tabs on? Cold hard truth: no-one cares about your killmails other than the people on it, and they already have a copy. Originally by:** Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.09.30 17:01:00 - [46] If there's a killmail, there's people on it besides you. They have just as much right to use that data as they see fit as you do. Besides, you don't own it. If anyone does, it's CCP. Killboard-Declarations of War Podcast
Mrmuttley National Health Service	Posted - 2009.09.30 18:45:00 - [47] Call me fail if it makes it easier for you to justify your actions. However the fact remains if the Coercer went down with 12mill loss and you gained 36 mill from looting missions cans that's cool that's a 24 mill profit (I probably ought to call BS on 36 mill from mission cans/wrecks) However if you hadn't got blown away for you actions that would be a 36 mill profit not a 24 mill profit in other words you lost 33% of your profit. Take into account your time and effort to refit and its even less successful. On the killboards issue I think it's you who is missing the point. You yourself claim it is epeening. I agree. To some extent a lot of KB posts serve no purpose other than epeening. Empire wars are a seperate issue. Take into account you can't distinguish a real KM and one from the test server FD-MLJ in particular and the epeening becomes even worse. Likewise you yourself have threatened to spam the KBs. I'm sure you accept your not the first person to think of that. Therefore you acknowledge that information on the KBs is suspect at best and useless at worst. So on that basis why are you getting upset about it. If anyone comments on your KB status of 1 kill to 4 deaths just tell them you dont care and/or think the data is faked. Your getting worked up about something you yourself stated is suspect data. .
Kristina Trepkas Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2009.09.30 19:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper spam the **** out of every site with fake killmails so the data gets useless ? heretic nation alt spotted
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 23:28:00 - [49] Originally by: Mrmuttley 12mill loss there, i pointed out your mistake, ofcourse i didn't gain 36 mil from the mission loot / salvage i don't "threaten" to spam the boards, i'll simply do it to interrupt data harvesting, call it information warfare strategy or whatever you like ... people use these killboards to look up on possible enemies, i want to prevent that, simple as that.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.09.30 23:51:00 - [50] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 30/09/2009 23:52:51 Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper ...i DO care about killBOARDS that extract more data from killmails than originally intended. the worst case are K/D ranking systems and isk destroyed / lost statistics, because they don't serve ANY purpose other than epeening How were those not intended? Like someone at CCP said "We'll give them killmails with all this information in them, but we don't intend anyone to keep track of it!"? Of course the information is simply for epeening. It is what killmails are for. I doubt CCP figured they'd simply make a good tool for judging new recruits when they added them. Anyways, good luck with spamming every killboard you can find. It will be a productive use of time.
Doddy The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.01 01:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper Originally by: Mrmuttley 12mill loss there, i pointed out your mistake, ofcourse i didn't gain 36 mil from the mission loot / salvage i don't "threaten" to spam the boards, i'll simply do it to interrupt data harvesting, call it information warfare strategy or whatever you like ... people use these killboards to look up on possible enemies, i want to prevent that, simple as that. In what way? Anyone who cares enough about the pew pew knows the optimum fits for all the ships in their roles anyway. The can estimate fittings from character age and general pvp experience from employment history. If you are fitting a fail fit or are massively underskilled for your toons age they don't need to know. If you have some sort of super-secret set up it didn't work when you died so why are you using it again anyway?. On the occaisions people do look up KB stats on a prospective target its almost always on the targets own killboard, any other source will probably give false readings anyway. The most data anyone is ever going to get is "hey look, Imperial crusade syndiacte flys alot of apocs". I have never known anyone in eve who goes through killboards and compiles fittings.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.01 03:51:00 - [52] Originally by: Doddy In what way? Anyone who cares enough about the pew pew knows the optimum fits for all the ships in their roles anyway. The can estimate fittings from character age and general pvp experience from employment history. If you are fitting a fail fit or are massively underskilled for your toons age they don't need to know. If you have some sort of super-secret set up it didn't work when you died so why are you using it again anyway?. On the occaisions people do look up KB stats on a prospective target its almost always on the targets own killboard, any other source will probably give false readings anyway. The most data anyone is ever going to get is "hey look, Imperial crusade syndiacte flys alot of apocs". I have never known anyone in eve who goes through killboards and compiles fittings. this tbh, the only reason i would look you up on a killboard would be to see if i killed you before, every other judgement i would make from observation and checking ingame pilot info.

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