Originally by: Signore Kaeota

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In real life, if you hit someone's car with a missile you're gunna be in jail for a long, long time - get over it.

As if mission farmers don't get enough isk.

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Originally by: Auroral Borealis

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Edited by: Auroral Borealis on 30/09/2009 07:05:46
for all the ppl who read this thread who are not trolls

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budum ching

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Originally by: Signore Kaeota

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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So we should suply the entire underbelly of s****with money?

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No, you shouldn't draw a RL comparison with one half of an issue, then ignore the second half, aka, YOU JUST BLEW SOMETHING UP - last I checked, that's a hellova lot less legal than stealing a CD player or an engine.

And if your referring to my second comment, then I assume that's why your posting? As it's pretty much exclusively mission b*tches who have issues with ninja salvaging.

And who cares if you think their scum? It's a game, they play it the way they like - which just happens to make you cry, and us laugh. Does that make them scum? No, it makes you pathetic.

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Originally by: Draeca

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If I come and wreck your car, is the carwreck my property?

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Originally by: Vyrk

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Theivery is a miniprofession too.....and they get killed for it in some countries.

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Yes and you are free to attack & kill anyone who has stolen from your wreck, to make them pay for what they have done.

Oh and you realize that this is game?

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Originally by: Signore Kaeota

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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And if you blow something up you are reqponsible for everything that you blew up and are expected to replace it to the full monetary value. In the case of mission running you are attacking criminals. Criminals that won't pay for their past actions. You are basically a hired bounty hunter.(Dirka Dirka.....that is why you get bounties....)

Only little girls with no life look at the arguement of law as tears......Statements like your remind me that there are a ton of little boys that haven't dipped mr. winky yet. But thank you for your tears of lacking any real life skills young one. They make me laugh.

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Ahh, so your argument is that if you shoot a criminal, you only get his stuff not his corpse? Or that if you go blow up a pirate ship you get to loot the wreck but can't take the ships engines? Hate to break it to you, both cases are 100% illegal, as is the mentioned bounty hunting.

No, I look at your attempt to twist the law to apply to your liking as tears. Though I do find the 'mr. winky' comment most amusing, and must congratulate you on that one.

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Originally by: Future Mutant

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YAAAAAAA! Another thread on ninja salvaging! we dont get enough of these!

Its a good thing we have whining on the forums as an option i mean its tons easier then actually COMPETING for your salvage.

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Originally by: MIND SCR4MBLER

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Edited by: MIND SCR4MBLER on 30/09/2009 08:36:27
"blah blah blah sad look at legality".

Ok nubcakes, its like this. You dont go round "salvaging" cars.

heres a clue, when NASA decided they were going to go to space, they decided the most appropriate ppls was the navy aviators. as such "space" as always been regarding the preserve of the navy therefore the sea, "astro NAUT" as in NAUTICAL is the give away here. caldari navy, gallente navy, thats also a bit of a clue for you.

the fact that they are called "ships" and named after ship classes "frigate, destroyer, cruiser, battleship, battlecruiser etc" is more evidence of this sea-faring tradition of the space. You can also look at such references in star trek (they all carry naval ranks, captain, admirail etc) and there is a historical ships wheel in the state room of the enterprise. i digress.

Still with me? PAY ATTENTION NOW Y'HEAR!

CCP rule on salvage therefore follows the law on salvage at sea. if you find a wreck in the sea, ooh say the titanic or a spanish galleon full of treasure then under international maritime laws its yours to claim.

Now lets say said wreck is the bismarck. sunk by the british navy in 1943. carebear emowhiner would shout "no! you cannot salvage thee wreck, belongeth to me, the british navy!" when in reality salvaging is done by hardy folk on specialist salvage vessels with lots of expensive diving and recovery gear, principally on account of the fact the navyz of the world consider it their bizness to blow up teh ships and not recoverz the lootz which is left for seafaring salvage monkeys and treasure hunters. After all if the british navy was so bothered by salvage why did they leave so much gold at the bottom of the carribbean eh?

So before you come here spouting about "those darn CCP and there lack of legal morals", i suggest you avail yourself of free trip to library and look up the international maritime laws of salvage, on which all future laws of space will no doubt be based.

So what we have here is validation of your ignorance OP, and not CCP's.

official law on salvage therefore "finders keepers, losers emoragetearers, or quite simply first to the wreck wins"

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Originally by: Signore Kaeota

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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You are so wise nubcakes pighumper.....The ENTIRE wreck....Including all the contents is the ownership of the salvager. It doesn't work half way with "Oh.....I still own what is inside of the ship" bs.

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So... why aren't you asking for free loot rules, where it all belongs to the 'salvager', instead of the one who made the kill, if you're so determined that eve laws should reflect RL?

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Originally by: Too Dangerous

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OP, in my country it is illegal to own a weapon. Does that mean CCP should remove all wepaons from this game? That way we can all fly around peacefully and no one can shoot anyone! Now that would be a cool game bro!

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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I am asking it to be put one way or the other.....I really don't care which way it goes. But they DO colorcode the wrecks to show ownership. There is no other reason for the color coding. Either it should be entirely owned by the person that shot it or there should be no ownership of anything in it.

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WHY ? As the previous posters have stated this is a game, so the rules can be whatever.

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Originally by: Tom Peeping

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Edited by: Tom Peeping on 30/09/2009 14:09:13
Oh.... and if we really wanted to make salvage rules consistent with real world here's how to actually change it.

Your example of a car is not valid, because it pertains to something you had ownership of before it was wrecked and you have not "abandoned" it. In the real world, if you came across true abandoned salvage, then it belongs to the first salvager who lays claim to it. Even if the original owner came back and decided to claim it again, if a valid case was made that it met the criteria for being abandoned salvage, then the salvager would still have a good chance at being granted the salvage despite the original owners wish.(INCORRECT....I was referring to when YOU run into someone else' car. You have to pay for their car. please don't twist my words.)

To actually make salvage consistent with the real world, CCP should simply make it "belong" to the first person to go up to it and take it (i.e. exert a claim). Of course, if they in their turn abandon it, it becomes salvage again, not property. If CCP would only do this simple step, then we would have consistency with the real world for those who are begging for it... oh wait... that's what the rules we already have!!! OMGWTF!!!(Again.....the loot should follow the wreck....Both being salvage)

We could take the simple route, of acknowledging that the current rules are actually pretty close to real world rules, with a slight edge to the carebear/noob side (since the loot isn't treated as salvage, and the thief type characters can't tractor beam all wrecks). Isn't "close" to real world, with a slight edge to the noobish side, exactly what the game should be for the professions that noobs will be doing?(You can't tractor wrecks that don't belong to you.......Hmmmmm....Wreck ownership?)


I think what confuses people here, is that the rules which define "abandoning" in the real world, can't really be applied to the game. In the real world, there are specific criteria which constitute "abandonment" of salvage, which then makes it free to any salvager, regardless of the original owner. In game - Sure we could say "abandonment" would be leaving the mission... but don't forget that the same rules have to be applicable to player PVP wrecks, to plex wrecks, to belt wrecks... to all sorts of things. In the real world, there are a lot of specific rules which apply to different circumstances. In the game world however, a lot of specific rules for different circumstances equals increased complexity, increased chances of something going wrong, and in many circumstances, increased lag.... all things CCP considers MUCH more important to focus on. The current system of salvage, is actually an extrememly close approximation of the the real world rules, but with the benefit of simplicity.

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Originally by: Sergiiy Kortos

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i WISH salvaging flagged me to the mission runner :(

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Originally by: Terranid Meester

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What a stupid thread. OP should be locked up for forum crimes.

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Originally by: Varesk

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let me help you out with this.

its ccps game.
they say i can salvage the wrecks you leave in space.

/thread.

w0w is that way =====>

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Originally by: Multipurpose Cleaner

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Edited by: Multipurpose Cleaner on 09/10/2009 07:55:32

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: Sergiiy Kortos

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i WISH salvaging flagged me to the mission runner :(

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Why? Are you too cowardly to take something out of the wreck?

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Quoting reading comprehension fail

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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood

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Edited by: Doktor Feeelgoood on 01/10/2009 21:26:01
it's funny how dumb americans can be sometimes. "in the u s of a the law is like this, why is it not like this anywhere else in the world (or vidja games)? we rule everything and everybody should be like us. now let's go raid the middle east yeehaw!"

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Originally by: Tetrix Akuta

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Let me help you out with this.
Its CCPS game.
They say we can get changes through discussion.

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OP how would your suggested change improve the game? I am not seeing the benefit.

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Originally by: Sir Carnage

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Seriously, this isn't exactly the place to discuss the merits of the U.S. education system.

The entire reason for this topic is to cause just the sort of response it has generated. It does not belong in C&P. At best it could go into Features and Ideas. As it's explicitly addressed to the Devs and CCP, it should be removed from the forums all together. It does discuss crime so yes....it does belong here.

Also, go back to WoW. Maybe one day you'll graduate to Hello Kitty Online, but Eve is obviously beyond you

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Originally by: TokimoYsera

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What I don't get is why you didn't just say:

In EVE when someone steals loot from a ship wreck you've killed, you get to blast their face. Can we get face blasting rights when they steal the salvage?

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Originally by: Max Hatter

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Originally by: edfhk'lkhff

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Edited by: edfhk''lkhff on 17/10/2009 14:52:11
It all boils down to greif.
Get off the troll comments and get real answers.
Ninja salvagers are just lazy and lack standing to get there own salvage to ninja.
I blow up my wrecks.
I like jelly beans.

Edit:WTH is TL;DR?

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That's not the truth. I've done missions and I hated it. It's so god damn boring. You do the same thing over and over again and you have almost no social interaction. I think most ninjas have done missions but found it lacking. Hell I even found mining to be more fun then missioning.

Ninja salvaging is more varied you have the chance to get some PvP action. It even demands more skills (not skillpoints mind you) then mission running. I'm always looking to evolve my ninja salvaging skills. Not because I need more ISK (I could do missions or trading or something for that.) but because I find it challenging. But you who are against ninja salvaging probably won't care about what I'm saing anyway. You are dead sure we are just in this for the grief and as you say, we are to lazy.

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Originally by: Tristan Acoma

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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So then.....what is the challenge in Ninja salvaging? You probe out a mission. You fly in and salvage. WOW....That was hard and SOOOoooo Challenging. What other reason could you possibly have other than grief or money?

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Well..... then again, solo mining high sec veldspar isn't particularly profitable or technically challenging. Obviously the miners are griefing the asteroids, it couldn't possibly be for fun or ISK :)

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Originally by: Maddock Krug

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Hey.

@SixToOne

You are right: Salvaging is not as profitable as very few MRwh***s claim it to be.
Whilst you ask why Ninjas do it, you give some of more or less likely answers yourself. But there are many, many, many more more or less answers as well. Just start to use your brain and think in gameterms and gamemechanics and terms of EvE Experience.
I cannot fully disagree with you, but I won't agree with you to any degree with anything you've spit into this thread.

Because all in all you are wrong.

First of: What you claim to be the intention of ninjas is, what may be right for some ninjas. But I have seen many ninjas just salvaging, and neither looting nor ganking the poor, poor, poor MR. So your statement on the griefdom by ninjas is incorrect, as it does not apply with all of 'em.
Secondly: It is a legend, albeit a wrong legend, that ninjas are aught to be unseen while they do something. As many have told in this topic and in many other topics as well: comparisons with RL is - as always within any game - something to better leave aside, 'cause it is not comparable. That's why you are very wrong with your assumption on this.
Thirdly: I am happy to figure that most MR really don't care (much) about ninjas; they run their missions and want ISK; that's why they don't waste time on salvaging and looting, as most missions (even L4s) don't really give so much valuable stuff (compared with bounties and rewards and also related with the missions sites); so focussing on bounties, rewards and time bonuses alone is what makes you really rich - all this with the assumption that you solo-run missions with mediochre skills, hoping that most eve player have them, realizing though they have not (seen to many people in lvl 4s just failing to do it right ...). Since I do ninja salvage (and sometimes loot as well), I more often get fleet invites to get along faster; and I get rambling fools ****ing their pants whilst emoraging on local or PM or private convo very seldomly.

That's why I conclude: The very few bickering about ninjas salvaging their missions behave like owning the truth, although they are -in fact- a poor and simple-minded minority claiming things which simply don't exist and which don't match with the EvE-wide common sense.

Fly reckless!

Mad

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Originally by: James Tritanius

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Edited by: James Tritanius on 04/11/2009 16:25:28

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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So then.....what is the challenge in Ninja salvaging? You probe out a mission. You fly in and salvage. WOW....That was hard and SOOOoooo Challenging.

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What's the challenge in salvaging your own mission? You don't even have to probe it out and you can use tractor beams.

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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What other reason could you possibly have other than greif or money?

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Wait... you mean there are other reasons to play EVE?

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Originally by: B1FF

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I stopped reading at "In the USA if you. . ."

AFK parallels always fail. In AFK/RL we don't have space ships so we should remove them from EvE.

Also the premise in the subject is nonsensical. There is no legality. There are only the rules CCP states. CCP says they are junk owned by no one then they are junk owned by no one. If you don't like it leave.

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Originally by: Phoben

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Originally by: MIND SCR4MBLER

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CCP rule on salvage therefore follows the law on salvage at sea. if you find a wreck in the sea, ooh say the titanic or a spanish galleon full of treasure then under international maritime laws its yours to claim.

Now lets say said wreck is the bismarck. sunk by the british navy in 1943. carebear emowhiner would shout "no! you cannot salvage thee wreck, belongeth to me, the british navy!" when in reality salvaging is done by hardy folk on specialist salvage vessels with lots of expensive diving and recovery gear, principally on account of the fact the navyz of the world consider it their bizness to blow up teh ships and not recoverz the lootz which is left for seafaring salvage monkeys and treasure hunters. After all if the british navy was so bothered by salvage why did they leave so much gold at the bottom of the carribbean eh?

So before you come here spouting about "those darn CCP and there lack of legal morals", i suggest you avail yourself of free trip to library and look up the international maritime laws of salvage, on which all future laws of space will no doubt be based.

So what we have here is validation of your ignorance OP, and not CCP's.

official law on salvage therefore "finders keepers, losers emoragetearers, or quite simply first to the wreck wins"

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not really correct....

all wrecks are owned by someone, owner or insurance company, a salvager finding the wreck and taking from it must declare the salvage to the relevant authorities in the port they first come to ( or port of origin). Its then upto the authorities to find the legal owners of the ship, its then a deal between the legal owner and salvager for payment in lieu of salvage. It all gets pretty legal after that

for in game mechanics it would work that someone pilferring wrecks would have to declare the goods to the authorities and then a deal could be struck for cold hard cash to part with the loot. If so wished or the looter has to give up the salvage or faces prosecution from the authorities.

and Navys of the world take a real dim view of turning up on their sunken ships full of dead sailors and ripping salvage off them for profit.

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Bravo sir.....Someone that actually knows what they are talking about and not a 13yo spewing crap from atop his head. I truly like it when someone claims to know the rules of something...spews their "Knowledge" all over the floor....then gets it mopped up by someone that actually knows.
Then here comes the second problem....Idiots that will say"Well you shouldn't make IRL compparisons.", Although these idiots never say that when someone is trying to do an IRL comp. that discredits the OP......It is simply a biassed approach that leaves them looking like idiots.
Anyway....good post Phoben...Bravo.

Originally by: arbiter reformed

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IN 'UMERICA WE GOT MAD AND SHOOT STUFF WHEN PPL TAKE OUR ****!!! **** YEH

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Originally by: Jofridur

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It's game mechanics. Which means it is the way it is supposed to be and working correctly.

I find your game vs reality comparison hilarious because of just that, and the way you try to defend it too.

If you don't like people salvaging your wrecks and want to do something about it why don't just wardec them or suicide gank them? Play the game everyone else is playing.

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Originally by: Jessica Lorelei

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Its a fictional universe real world does not apply, nothing in this world applies.

your points about real laws, are null and void, much like you.

BTW I'm not in a 3rd world country before you start spouting your xenophobic bull**** again.

p.s. where do you mission?

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Originally by: Jessica Lorelei

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well thanks for the hot headed patrotic bull****, and the ad hominem attack,

THIS IS GAME *******

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Originally by: Benedict Carol

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Originally by: Jessica Lorelei

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Its a fictional universe real world does not apply, nothing in this world applies.

your points about real laws, are null and void, much like you.

BTW I'm not in a 3rd world country before you start spouting your xenophobic bull**** again.

p.s. where do you mission?

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Based on locater agents, I'm betting he doesn't move around much :)

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Originally by: Jessica Lorelei

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suprise suprise its a noob corp alt, how convienient.

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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At least in Germany it doesnt work that way. If you wreck someones car, its still HIS car and you (or your insurance company, and I work for one) have to pay for the repair of said car or for replacement.

Ownership never changes...

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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At least in Germany it doesnt work that way. If you wreck someones car, its still HIS car and you (or your insurance company, and I work for one) have to pay for the repair of said car or for replacement.

Ownership never changes...

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So by your own mentally ******ed logic and subsequent admission: CONCORD or whatever corporation does give you the mission should own the rights to the wrecks in Eve? And should they then come and pod you for stealing their stuff?

I mean the wreck is caused by you. But your insurance, in other words the NPC corp giving you the mission or whoever you insured with, should own wrecks.

So once again you fail to see the fault of actual real life logic in your statements. Thus making my previous request more urgent: don't reproduce.

Even if the car is totaled and you have to fully replace it the insurance company doesn't buy the car in in the proccess? The person that you ran into gets the car and a new one?

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Holy crap man, you are the single most funny troll ever. I mean your pretension of stupidity is amazingly hilarious. Seriously man, nice job.
I mean even in the US they do not give you the wreck. I would laugh my ass of it a neighbor of mine totaled someone's car and got the trash (totaled car) dumped in front of their lawn.

And if you are actually as stupid as this topic proved, please don't ever reproduce.

Sorry had to make that disclaimer, since in the US we cover both sides of an argument.

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Atleast discolor your words so everything doesn't run together in a non-sensical waste of effort.

And BTW.....Do reproduce...You are making the U.S. what all the people that hate it see it as....loaded with idiots.

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This is actually funny. Congrats. And yes I will reproduce, once I find the lady of my dreams.

Till then I try to enjoy the topic, if you don't mind of course.
Again, you claim that you should own a wreck, yet you admit that the insurance company technically paid for it. Thus you never had the right to grab the wreck in real life.
And on the occasion that you ever do actually get to total someone's car (hopefully neither side will be injured, though unlikely) go ahead and try to take stuff out of the other person's car.

Slightly impossible since the person will be still alive. And if you killed them, even if they were a criminal in the US, you would get arrested.

Thus everything you spouted got nullified by actual logic.

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Atleast discolor your words so everything doesn't run together in a non-sensical waste of effort.

And BTW.....Do reproduce...You are making the U.S. what all the people that hate it see it as....loaded with idiots.

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This is actually funny. Congrats. And yes I will reproduce, once I find the lady of my dreams.

Till then I try to enjoy the topic, if you don't mind of course.
Again, you claim that you should own a wreck, yet you admit that the insurance company technically paid for it. Thus you never had the right to grab the wreck in real life.
And on the occasion that you ever do actually get to total someone's car (hopefully neither side will be injured, though unlikely) go ahead and try to take stuff out of the other person's car.

Slightly impossible since the person will be still alive. And if you killed them, even if they were a criminal in the US, you would get arrested.

Thus everything you spouted got nullified by actual logic.

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Take your half logic using tard self elsewhere. Ofcourse if you only use part of anything you can twist it around.....congrat idiot american.....you win in your little corner.

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Ah the American humor: waaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaaa
And when someone comes along and points out how wrong you are: WAAAAAAAAAAA

Thank you man, you made me laugh all day.

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Originally by: FireT

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Well kid, if you can't read properly and only love your own ideas AND can't accept criticism and heavy sarcasm which is based upon your own drug induced version of humanity..... go ahead.

All I can say, if you ever get to shoot at people for salvaging your wrecks, and they retain kill rights.... I will personally become a griefer to annoy you.

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Originally by: Asuri Kinnes

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Edited by: Asuri Kinnes on 05/11/2009 20:57:29

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Edited by: BunnyBuzzBunny on 11/10/2009 04:59:14

Before you start to post here....
1. This is not an issue about shooting someone. There are already laws about that in the game.

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As there are laws about ninjasalvagin...

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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2. Don't twist my words on the subject. It only makes you look like you just can't comprehend.

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Troll - its been explained to you (and relevant CCP Dev answers have been linked). And still you troll... Like you can't comprehend.

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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3. I don't have time to read every article that has been posted before me. (Think of it as the "Dipping Mr. Winky" principle of things.)

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Let us know when Mr. Winky gets dipped, I'm sure we'd all like to be informed of when you hit puberty pubbie. You don't have to read all the other threads to find the relevant answers...

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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4. I am asking for someone from CCP to validate. If you aren't from CCP....I don't care what you have to say.

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Sure, glad to help the less fortunate (i.e. - 'bred & 'tarded..):


GM Ytterbium on "ownership" of wrecks, and aggro mechanics...
http://eve-search.com/thread/766902

CCP Prism X explains why it isnt a theft to salvage wrecks made by other people
http://eve-search.com/thread/971872#30

CCP Mitnal locks thread cause CCP:s policy is clear. Salvaging others wrecks is NOT a crime (scroll down)
http://eve-search.com/thread/1080709/page/2#47


GM Faolchu explains how CCP looks at salvaging
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=508034&page=9#262





I don't know about the rest of the world but here in the United States if I wreck someone else' car I have to pay the full price of that car and own it in it's entirety.
Inappropriate language removed. Zymurgist

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Originally by: Asuri Kinnes

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Edited by: Asuri Kinnes on 08/11/2009 14:27:48

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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If you are paying the insurance company....you are pre-paying for that wreck. If you don't have insurance and the vehicle is totaled you will be responsible to replace it and or give enough money to cover a replacement and you will own the wreck.(Or the insurance Co. does if they pay for a totaled vehicle.)

And even if you DO have insurance...5-1 says you have a deductable.....and you still have to pay a substantual ammount.

Keep going troll.....and see if you can't come up with something realistic.

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Trolling aside, CCP has said:

"This is our game, wrecks = aggression, salvage does not".

Thats what has been pointed out to you and you refuse to listen.

Last but not least:

One of the jobs I've had in the past was Insurance Agent. yes you pay all that money to the insurance company.

(Now I'll say this slow)
No matter what, under NO circumstance will *YOU* *EVER* own any part of another persons wrecked vehicle. You are not "prepaying for that wreck" - your paying insurance so that you don't have to pay, OUT OF POCKET for the damages...

Title will not transfer to you, you won't have salvage rights, you won't be able to take anything from the wreck - nothing.

Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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And even if you DO have insurance...5-1 says you have a deductable.....and you still have to pay a substantual ammount.

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Which has nothing to do with salvage or ownership -

>DOLT<


"This thread is about trolling..."

I like pie.


From Page One:

Originally by: DoltBuzzBunnyDolt

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5. The parts that you can take from of a wreck to make rigs for your ship are perfectly fine to take. The componets(Ninja edit: "COMPONENTS") that you could take from a wreck to attache (ATTACH) to your ship are NOT ok to take. This is perfectly logical to CCP but nobody else.

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Its quite logical to most everyone except you. Its been explained to you (CCP sees it as a mini-profession) - your just being an idiotic troll.

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Originally by: Tiberizzle

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Edited by: Tiberizzle on 12/11/2009 00:52:17

If some carebear who actually loots and salvages his missions would like to dig further along similar lines I'm pretty sure a strong case could be made either for or against the current policy on salvage. CCP will likely disregard any such analysis, though, as they are quite obviously intentionally griefing us all with some of these ****ty game mechanics

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Originally by: Lian Xander

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tl;dr ....

YAY! Another ninja-whine thread.

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Originally by: Gibbo5771

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I don't see why ur ****ing idiots are still going on about this, do you walk down the street, throw a empty mars bar wrapper down and then shout at the guy who cleans it up?

If I'm walking down the street, there's a thrown out pc sitting on on the sidewalk...the noobie owner is probably too rich to get it fixed and just busy a one...oh not me I 'salvage' wats left, I've got a 320gb maxtor hardrive and a few gigs of ddr2 RAM doing this before. It's rubbish and it longer belongs to anyone besides the first hobo jakey bastard like me comes along.

Also posting in a whining carebear thread

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Originally by: Ana'Lingus

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Please, just let this die. Take your rage out on people somewhere else, like, I dunno...ingame maybe? Learn to fly Recon cruisers and then go pop and pod some people if it makes your Irritable Male Syndrome go away.

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