Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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I don't know about the rest of the world but here in the United States if I wreck someone else' car I have to pay the full price of that car and own it in it's entirety.

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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NOT just the CD changer(read as loot within the cargo). If someone goes to that car and takes the electrical system(read as equal to salvage.) I have legal avenues to follow for recourse. If someone goes to that car and takes the CD changer(read as loot in the cargo.) I have legal avenues to follow for recourse. The CD-changer and the wreck are considered to be all the same ownership. Nobody can run up and just load my wreck up on their rig and drive away with it. From a legal standpoint any item taken from that wreck(Including an Alloyed Tritanium Bar)would be an act of theft.(Is this different in the rest of the world? Comments?)

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Originally by: Two Shots

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Thirdly, the issue you have raised has been addressed by CCP several times. It is the official stance of CCP that salvage belongs to no one until it lands in the hangar of whomever has salvaged it from a wreck. Changing the present ownership mechanics of salvage would, counter to what you seem to think, actually increase the "tears" from Carebears; because, a very likely scenario would be thus:
1. FIGHTBEAR enters mission belonging to CAREBEAR
2. CAREBEAR target locks FIGHTBEAR
3. FIGHTBEAR salvages a wreck and becomes flagged to CAREBEAR
4. CAREBEAR shoots at the FIGHTBEAR's salvage frigate
5. FIGHTBEAR warps out or is destroyed and then warps out;
6. CAREBEAR feels proud and awesome for about 1-2 minutes;
7. FIGHTBEAR warps back into the mission with a PVP-fit ship tanked against the damage the mission rats are weakest against, and bearing at least one heavy neut to break CAREBEAR's tank.
8. CAREBEAR explodes and posts on the forums about how it's unfair that he could be killed for defending his property
9. LULZ ensue.
Cheers!

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood

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Edited by: Doktor Feeelgoood on 01/10/2009 21:26:01
it's funny how dumb americans can be sometimes. "in the u s of a the law is like this, why is it not like this anywhere else in the world (or vidja games)? we rule everything and everybody should be like us. now let's go raid the middle east yeehaw!"

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Look at you...a ****** that does not understand that the american stated quite clearly that this may not be the case in your country. But most of the rest of the world hopes that your country will be able to catch up in the comprehension field soon. You need some help. (Why all the rage against Americans......Are you jealous? If so of what?)

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Originally by: Dawts

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Originally by: FireT

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Dawts, cute reply, but then again being inside the box doesn't help when trying to analyze the issues of the box.

Honestly, people in the US do act like the OP. ALOT. Currently most American's barely pass literature and math skills, according to our own US statistics. Even our oh so new president admits we pretty much suck in competition with the rest of the world and are falling behind.
Guess why: its because we have become a bunch of arrogant little *****s.
Hell people are even going abroad now to find the land of opportunity when it comes to work.

But you must have missed those news in your parent's basement and avoiding actual news and discussions.

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A lot is two words.

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Originally by: Dawts

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: Dawts

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Originally by: FireT

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Dawts, cute reply, but then again being inside the box doesn't help when trying to analyze the issues of the box.

Honestly, people in the US do act like the OP. ALOT. Currently most American's barely pass literature and math skills, according to our own US statistics. Even our oh so new president admits we pretty much suck in competition with the rest of the world and are falling behind.
Guess why: its because we have become a bunch of arrogant little *****s.
Hell people are even going abroad now to find the land of opportunity when it comes to work.

But you must have missed those news in your parent's basement and avoiding actual news and discussions.

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A lot is two words.

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'A lot is two words'? Dude you truly represent the average American tard.

Personally I advocate, salvaging automatically pops hostility on both targets. Thus automated violence pops up and carebears die faster. Yarrrr

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Again with the name calling. Are you trying to prove you're smarter, or more mature than the average american?

Just for the record, science and mathematics are the 2 lacking subjects of the US, literacy is at 98%.

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Originally by: Roland Deschaines

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Simple, Eve is not real life, and CCP think of ninja salvaging as a profession.

It's not unlike scamming (also illegal in RL, think of ole Bernie) or deccing and killing (I bribe the police so I can kill you -_-) or 0.0 (I go to this special zone where the police turn a blind eye on me).

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Edited by: BunnyBuzzBunny on 10/10/2009 08:05:29
Edited by: BunnyBuzzBunny on 10/10/2009 08:03:38

Originally by: Sir Carnage

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Seriously, this isn't exactly the place to discuss the merits of the U.S. education system.

The entire reason for this topic is to cause just the sort of response it has generated. It does not belong in C&P. At best it could go into Features and Ideas. As it's explicitly addressed to the Devs and CCP, it should be removed from the forums all together.
Also, go back to WoW. Maybe one day you'll graduate to Hello Kitty Online, but Eve is obviously beyond you

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Never played WOW....Don't intend to. As the usual rifraf you add nothing. Go back to preschool.

The reason it was addressed to devs/CCP is because of simpletons like yourself that just feel the need to throw 2 cents in. It does discuss crime so yes....it does belong here.
Everyone knows(Even the lower end intelligence of the bottom of the barrel American.) that 2 cents isn't worth a crap. And that is all you have to offer.

As far as what this article is for is to build a respectably worded theory for myself and others that may or may not understand the idiocracy associated with salvage and looting and the difference of the two in CCP's eyes. If you had seen the first post you would know that the one that is up there now has evolved quite a bit.

Here is your 2 cents back....I hope you find someone that needs it.

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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At least in Germany it doesnt work that way. If you wreck someones car, its still HIS car and you (or your insurance company, and I work for one) have to pay for the repair of said car or for replacement.

Ownership never changes...

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So by your own mentally ******ed logic and subsequent admission: CONCORD or whatever corporation does give you the mission should own the rights to the wrecks in Eve? And should they then come and pod you for stealing their stuff?

I mean the wreck is caused by you. But your insurance, in other words the NPC corp giving you the mission or whoever you insured with, should own wrecks.

So once again you fail to see the fault of actual real life logic in your statements. Thus making my previous request more urgent: don't reproduce.

Even if the car is totaled and you have to fully replace it the insurance company doesn't buy the car in in the proccess? The person that you ran into gets the car and a new one?

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Atleast discolor your words so everything doesn't run together in a non-sensical waste of effort.

And BTW.....Do reproduce...You are making the U.S. what all the people that hate it see it as....loaded with idiots.

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Originally by: FireT

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Originally by: BunnyBuzzBunny

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Atleast discolor your words so everything doesn't run together in a non-sensical waste of effort.

And BTW.....Do reproduce...You are making the U.S. what all the people that hate it see it as....loaded with idiots.

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This is actually funny. Congrats. And yes I will reproduce, once I find the lady of my dreams.

Till then I try to enjoy the topic, if you don't mind of course.
Again, you claim that you should own a wreck, yet you admit that the insurance company technically paid for it. Thus you never had the right to grab the wreck in real life.
And on the occasion that you ever do actually get to total someone's car (hopefully neither side will be injured, though unlikely) go ahead and try to take stuff out of the other person's car.

Slightly impossible since the person will be still alive. And if you killed them, even if they were a criminal in the US, you would get arrested.

Thus everything you spouted got nullified by actual logic.

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Take your half logic using tard self elsewhere. Ofcourse if you only use part of anything you can twist it around.....congrat idiot american.....you win in your little corner.

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