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Intigo
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Posted - 2009.10.01 06:51:00 -
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My alt (Tiamat Key) is focused on ECM skills too, but I've thoroughly enjoyed playing in it so far.
What other skills do you have? Caldari Frigate I'd imagine, do you have Cruiser trained yet? The Caracal is very effective (both as AML and HML) as mentioned - I fly around in a HML Caracal and let the other lads tank while I just lay in to people from a bit away.
I also fly an Osprey as people rarely expect remote shield reps in RvB (Plave hates it  ).
Besides those 2, the Moa is also a decent choice.
You won't get a ship as good as the Rupture / Thorax / Vexor, but you can do some decent things with the ships you have available.
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Posted - 2009.10.01 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 01/10/2009 12:23:01
...wow. You guys are truly incompetent. ECM is overpowered for small gang warfare (sub-10) with Frigates and Cruisers. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue what he's talking about.
It's very hard to counter ECM when you have no sensor strength and ECM takes a lot of the fun out of PvP. ECM is far overpowered compared to other forms of Electronic Warfare.
Gypsio, don't be silly, a Blackbird at range with your ships jammed while you're webbed down will completely ruin a small gang fight. You should realize this. We're all in T1 frigs & cruisers for the most part, hence why ECM is extremely overpowered.
 Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Suffice to say, as long as R v B imposes such arbitrary rules I think its a failure and will nver even consider joining it. 
Thank you! You are more than welcome to not join. What do you propose as "ECM counters" when you are flying around in T1 Cruisers and you're webbed down 30-40km from a Blackbird jamming you?
Please, do tell me.
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Posted - 2009.10.01 12:24:00 -
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Bull, Gypsio. The Caracal is jammed the others are webbed down at range. ECM has far too big an impact on small gang warfare. This is why it is frowned upon.
Are you people truly this incompetent?
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Posted - 2009.10.01 12:30:00 -
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You still need to fix the "frowned up" typo in the original post, Plave.
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Posted - 2009.10.01 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 01/10/2009 14:52:43
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You really are incompetent, Lindsay. How does it being chance-based make it a BETTER effect? TDs and RSDs can be countered through efficient piloting and player skill, ECM you can not counter through moving closer or piloting in a specific way.
How is something chance-based that is affected by randomness in any way shape or form a GOOD thing? The mind boggles at your stupidity. "It's more balanced because it's random!!!"
Who is your main? Seeing as this alt of yours has no PvP kills. I wonder if you have remotely any PvP experience at all.
"Fit ECCM" - yes, let's give those T1 Cruisers & Frigates a percentage boost to the massive sensor strength they already have, that will save us! Not to mention ECCM has no usage at all in engagemenst where ECM is not present (whereas Webs that help counter TDs do, Sensor Boosters have a use as well even if there are no RSDs present).
"Use Drones" - yes, not let's even begin to mention that the majority of pilots in the RvB are either new PvP'ers or low-SP alts. There's a ton of T1 Drones or bad skills all over the place, it will not dent the Blackbird. Not to mention the fact that you need to get a lock before you can assign them if the Blackbird is smart and warps in mid-fight. Or the massive amount of T1 frigs that love targeting drones. Or the fact that the majority of the Frigs we see (Rifters) can't even use Drones.
How do you propose they counter ECM? Make sure you bring atleast 4 Frigates to counter a single ECM ship? Oh joy.
"Use FoFs" - hahaha. No, really, you're kidding, right?
ECM was a terrible decision design-wise in the first place, but that's too late to change now. And haha, to the foolish person saying "if ECM is overpowered CCP would have nerfed it more!" - yeah...we all know CCP do a great job of game balancing, right?
ECM is not overpowered in the general PvP sense and has less of an impact the more people you get, but in the RvB setting it is extremely stupid due to the nature of the ships we fly and the relatively small size of the gangs.
I can't believe how foolish some of you people are. :\
Please realize that RvB is meant as a fun PvP outlet - the single-most annoying effect in the game is getting jammed (I think you can get the majority of people to agree with that, even if you don't). ECM completely takes away fun from the fights where-as TDs and RSDs can be countered through good piloting (lower your transversal, close range).
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 01/10/2009 16:42:42
Originally by: Ulstan
A lot of you seem to be treating this as a discussion of ECM in EVE at large.
But in reality, they are discussing ECM in the context of RvB.
RvB players fly around small squads of T1 frigates and some T1 cruisers.
Ding, ding, ding.
Thank you for seeing what I highlighted in the last part of my last post. Selectively quoting some parts and not the entire post makes people look pretty silly.
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