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Slave Ada	Posted - 2009.10.02 07:47:00 - [31] Originally by: Cista2 Originally by: Slave Ada I made that 150mil the hard way, over several days even, but I made it from scratch. I haven't read everything in the thread, but this ^^^ does not make ANY sense to me at all. There is no way to make 150 mil in this game "from scratch" over a few days. If I were an investor I would run away just based on this remark. You have a bit of explaining to do. I don't see any need to explain. But I shall. When I was salvaging on a friends mission, I stumbled across an Item that wouldn't sell. I viewed the details, and saw that the particular item was being offered at 1m. I figured it wasn't bad, so I tried to find a seller, in Jita, where I discovered the price was 70,000 ISK. I bought a few, went back to the system I was based, and put them up for sale at the 800k mark. The next day one had sold. I was curious if I could find more items like this, and stumbled through some trading guides across eve-central. I checked the other modules that were in this category, and found that they were ALL more or less similar to what I had seen, selling obscenely cheap in Jita, and at least 100% mark up in certain other regions. I began buying them in Jita, and setting up a delivery trip, putting the items for sale in other regions. I taught myself how to read the price history graph, so that way I could tell how many items I would expect to sell on a given day. The difficulties I've faced are more annoyances than anything else, when someone sells cheaper, I have to travel, not just to that region, but close to the station (since my trade skills are very low). Since then, I have discovered a few other markets that are very similar. Some are even better than the one I am in due to the volume of the item being much smaller than what I am currently using. In the week, I made a total of about 153m, from an initial investment of about 4m, which was gained from the salvage (5m if we include my first sale in the market of this type, but by then I'd already realised what I was going to do.) Over the next 6 weeks, my skills will develop, and so will my experience. With the capital I expect to gain here, I will be able to move in one all of these markets, at a beginning level - and by the end of the 6 weeks, I expect to have reached the point where I can't put any more strain on the items, without lowering my profit margin (and defeating the point of the excercise). If all goes well, I should have a nice tidy sum of ISK for myself, and if it goes badly, there is no reason I shouldn't be able to cover the initial investment I will make off my already proven market.
Signore Kaeota Caldari Caelum Incognitum	Posted - 2009.10.02 07:52:00 - [32] Another quick question, if I may? Where did you get the +4s? you get them yourself, a friend etc? also, why +4s? thats like, 3 days skill training, and at that point just isn't worth it. -_-_-_- I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for. -_-_-_
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.02 08:01:00 - [33] Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 02/10/2009 08:04:14 Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 02/10/2009 08:01:14 Originally by: Slave Ada In the week, I made a total of about 153m, from an initial investment of about 4m, which was gained from the salvage (5m if we include my first sale in the market of this type, but by then I'd already realised what I was going to do.) An audit could confirm that. If you should decide to get an audit, I will cover the incurring costs up to 50m ISK (directly transferred to the auditor). Now, please explain why you won't have one. PS: how did you get that full set of standard implants? by selling it you got 100m ISK - are these part of your 153m ISK "trading profits"? EDIT: Quote: Another quick question, if I may? Where did you get the +4s? you get them yourself, a friend etc? also, why +4s? thats like, 3 days skill training, and at that point just isn't worth it. she didn't buy the +4s, she sold them " Credit is the economic judgement on the morality of a man. "
Signore Kaeota Caldari Caelum Incognitum	Posted - 2009.10.02 08:09:00 - [34] Originally by: Mme Pinkerton Quote: Another quick question, if I may? Where did you get the +4s? you get them yourself, a friend etc? also, why +4s? thats like, 3 days skill training, and at that point just isn't worth it. she didn't buy the +4s, she sold them damnit, this is where the original thread would come in handy, cause I swear he said he had two +4s plugged in. But yes, once again - an audit wont reveal a lot, but it will reveal if your just a scamming alt - and if you even have the aforementioned 150mil. -_-_-_- I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for. -_-_-_
Slave Ada	Posted - 2009.10.02 08:09:00 - [35] I purchased the +4's (int and mem) on purpose, due to the fact that the 3 days it takes to train cybernetics IV will lower the training of Training skills by far more than the 3 days it took to train cybernetics IV. Once my learning skills are complete I intend to use my second remap to focus on Will/Per/Cha in that order. And probably purchase the rest of the implants then.
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.02 08:11:00 - [36] Originally by: Slave Ada I feel personally than an Audit would throw some negativity in here, when I make a higher loan (which will have a full 6 weeks of trading experience behind it) Then I will Audit, gladly, because I know that an Auditter will be able to say 'this person has traded well on the market for 6 weeks with blah' lol? where would that negativity possibly come from? Your character is not yet a full 7 days old (we've got still a few hours left). The first thing I do when creating an alt is giving it a full set of +3s, the advanced learning skillbooks & a few million cash - either via contract or station trade. If you are a character created for scamming an audit would still reveal such "getting the alt started" transfers - in 6 weeks, it won't. " Credit is the economic judgement on the morality of a man. "
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.02 08:17:00 - [37] Originally by: Signore Kaeota damnit, this is where the original thread would come in handy, cause I swear he said he had two +4s plugged in. oh, I thought you were referring to the set he sold on contract when he was still three days old. " Credit is the economic judgement on the morality of a man. "
Slave Ada	Posted - 2009.10.02 11:02:00 - [38] Investment has begun - 2009.10.02 @ 8:00 PM Thankyou to all who have invested. Investment will be open for the next 24 hours for those late riders who wish to get in. But now I have just over the bare minimum to start on a few different markets. First payment is due @ 2009.10.09 @ 8:00 PM (may be slightly late due to downtime) Regards, ADA
Dzil Caldari Sausage Banking	Posted - 2009.10.02 12:53:00 - [39] Don't invest what you can't afford to lose. Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m
Psykeu g guild	Posted - 2009.10.02 15:58:00 - [40] 50 mil isk sent.
Lexander Morinex Caldari LDD Investments	Posted - 2009.10.02 16:20:00 - [41] Originally by: Slave Ada I purchased the +4's (int and mem) on purpose, due to the fact that the 3 days it takes to train cybernetics IV will lower the training of Training skills by far more than the 3 days it took to train cybernetics IV. Once my learning skills are complete I intend to use my second remap to focus on Will/Per/Cha in that order. And probably purchase the rest of the implants then. So let me get this straight. You have all the learning skills planned, your have bought +4 Implants and your friend is letting you salvage his missions. You found an item that was selling under market and are now going around making a huge profit on this item. And you need a loan of less than half a billion? That makes no sense. - Lexander Morinex
Yih	Posted - 2009.10.02 18:10:00 - [42] Edited by: Yih on 02/10/2009 18:11:10 put 50 million in, good luck.
Cista2 Jita Direct Sale	Posted - 2009.10.02 18:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Slave Ada I made that 150 mil the hard way, over several days even, but I made it from scratch. .... I don't see any need to explain. But I shall. When I was salvaging on a friends mission, I stumbled across an Item that wouldn't sell. I viewed the details, and saw that the particular item was being offered at 1m. I figured it wasn't bad, so I tried to find a seller, in Jita, where I discovered the price was 70,000 ISK. I bought a few, went back to the system I was based, and put them up for sale at the 800k mark. My original comment was: There is no way to make 150 mil in this game "from scratch" over a few days. The term Ada used was "several days". I have to say, something is still missing here. Maybe the problem is that I don't understand the meaning of the phrase "from scratch"? When I started the game "from scratch" I had 3,000 isk. In other words, I couldn't start on day one with buying 70,000 isk items as I pleased. I am aware that this person had his previous account banned. But somehow some amount of money must have trickled into this new account, and we are not told how. Maybe from friends - and therefore he did not make 150 mil "the hard way".
Signore Kaeota Caldari Caelum Incognitum	Posted - 2009.10.02 18:48:00 - [44] Originally by: Cista2 My original comment was: There is no way to make 150 mil in this game "from scratch" over a few days. The term Ada used was "several days". I have to say, something is still missing here. Maybe the problem is that I don't understand the meaning of the phrase "from scratch"? When I started the game "from scratch" I had 3,000 isk. In other words, I couldn't start on day one with buying 70,000 isk items as I pleased. I am aware that this person had his previous account banned. But somehow some amount of money must have trickled into this new account, and we are not told how. Maybe from friends - and therefore he did not make 150 mil "the hard way". He well admits that he made his first few mil salvaging his friends mission wrecks. On a semi-related note, why do I feel more like a gambler than an investor in this thread? -_-_-_- I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for. -_-_-_
Roguehalo Caldari RH Ship Brokers	Posted - 2009.10.02 18:53:00 - [45] It's fairly obvious that :- 1/ Slave Adas' main has been playing for years 2/ Slave Ada is a throwaway alt created with the specific purpose of scamming people. Why is this so glaringly obvious to me and yet people are sending isk.? Didn't General Newbold teach anybody anything?
SetrakDark	Posted - 2009.10.02 19:03:00 - [46] Originally by: Roguehalo Didn't General Newbold teach anybody anything? Yes, to buy into the 1st rep-grinder bond offering.
Raser Moonstrider Raser Industries	Posted - 2009.10.02 20:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Roguehalo It's fairly obvious that :- 1/ Slave Adas' main has been playing for years 2/ Slave Ada is a throwaway alt created with the specific purpose of scamming people. Why is this so glaringly obvious to me and yet people are sending isk.? Didn't General Newbold teach anybody anything? Entertainment value.
Slave Ada	Posted - 2009.10.02 22:02:00 - [48] Originally by: SetrakDark Originally by: Roguehalo Didn't General Newbold teach anybody anything? Yes, to buy into the 1st rep-grinder bond offering. Yet you haven't, hardly sage advice.
SetrakDark	Posted - 2009.10.02 22:05:00 - [49] Because you started too small.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.03 00:27:00 - [50] Quote: An Auditter would do nothing but throw into the mix the same negativity that I myself broadcasted to you False. - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Slave Ada	Posted - 2009.10.03 10:56:00 - [51] Investment is in full swing. Thankyou for those who loaned.
Raser Moonstrider Raser Industries	Posted - 2009.10.22 05:52:00 - [52] I've not received a payment since 10/09/2009. Anyone else?
Signore Kaeota Caldari Caelum Incognitum	Posted - 2009.10.23 06:08:00 - [53] Anyone get the payment due on the 17th? Or did I lose 47.5 mil? -_-_-_- I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for. -_-_-_
Raser Moonstrider Raser Industries	Posted - 2009.10.23 15:04:00 - [54] Nope, I didn't get one either. That's what my last post was going to be about, but then I felt like a jackass by not at least trying to get an answer from Ada before posting here (which I didn't get). Also not seen Ada online in quite some time...but then I can't be online all the time.
Victor Bukaki	Posted - 2009.10.26 12:17:00 - [55] I see that Slave ADA was active yesterday, has anyone had a payout yet?
Cista2 Jita Direct Sale	Posted - 2009.10.26 12:26:00 - [56] Interesting if this is a fail bond, as I believe it is the only one I have engaged in criticism of since I started here Also interesting that the elusive Yih is in on this, isn't it?
SOE Alignat	Posted - 2009.10.26 15:37:00 - [57] Originally by: Victor Bukaki I see that Slave ADA was active yesterday, has anyone had a payout yet? my expert opinion-BUMPED
Raser Moonstrider Space Perverts	Posted - 2009.10.31 20:22:00 - [58] Also of note: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=lastposts&cid=392947693 and: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=lastposts&cid=1663755246
RAW23	Posted - 2009.10.31 20:39:00 - [59] I bought in for 10mil (anonymously) thinking I was getting a cheap theatre ticket to week s of drama, accusations and counter-accusations around whether Ada's computer failed etc. I'm very disappointed in this investment - zero entertainment value. Did nobody buy enough to be ****ed off about this one? Is there a limit below which nobody can even be bothered to get upset?
Cista2 Jita Direct Sale	Posted - 2009.10.31 20:39:00 - [60] Originally by: Raser Moonstrider Also of note: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=lastposts&cid=392947693 and: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=lastposts&cid=1663755246 Sorry, I missed that. What was the WilliamDagur connection?

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