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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.26 18:44:00 -
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-Posted this in the skills forums but since hardly anyone reads there I thought it would be better to post this here also.-
Just got myself a Retribution assault frigate.
Equipped it with 4 of those nice medium pulse laser II:s.
Now I got: Surgical strike 5, Small energy turret 5, small pulse specialization 2 and assault ships 2.
3.6 is the base dmg bonus of these weapons. I figured the formula would be quite easy with me just multiplying all the numbers in to a pile.
thats: 3.6 x1.15 x1.25 x1.04 x1.1 = 5.9202
but in reality this becomes 5.382
Can someone explain to me how the formula works?
calculated the dmg mod without the bonus from the aussault ship skill that should give 5% dmg bonus per lvl, and now the math worked out. Is it the skill or the ship that is bugged? And does anyone else have problems with their aussault ships bonus?
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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.26 18:44:00 -
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-Posted this in the skills forums but since hardly anyone reads there I thought it would be better to post this here also.-
Just got myself a Retribution assault frigate.
Equipped it with 4 of those nice medium pulse laser II:s.
Now I got: Surgical strike 5, Small energy turret 5, small pulse specialization 2 and assault ships 2.
3.6 is the base dmg bonus of these weapons. I figured the formula would be quite easy with me just multiplying all the numbers in to a pile.
thats: 3.6 x1.15 x1.25 x1.04 x1.1 = 5.9202
but in reality this becomes 5.382
Can someone explain to me how the formula works?
calculated the dmg mod without the bonus from the aussault ship skill that should give 5% dmg bonus per lvl, and now the math worked out. Is it the skill or the ship that is bugged? And does anyone else have problems with their aussault ships bonus?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.26 18:45:00 -
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Tried refitting and undocking in case it's a variant of the fitting bug?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.26 18:45:00 -
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Tried refitting and undocking in case it's a variant of the fitting bug?
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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.26 19:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Tried refitting and undocking in case it's a variant of the fitting bug?
IŠm sorry to say that this doesnŠt work either. Still 5.382, and itŠs not fun to miss out on 20% more damage on level 4 assault ship later 
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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.26 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Tried refitting and undocking in case it's a variant of the fitting bug?
IŠm sorry to say that this doesnŠt work either. Still 5.382, and itŠs not fun to miss out on 20% more damage on level 4 assault ship later
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.10.26 21:38:00 -
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I got the same kind of bug, I trained assault frig from lvl 2 to 3 and no had no difference in the damage mod 
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.10.26 21:38:00 -
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I got the same kind of bug, I trained assault frig from lvl 2 to 3 and no had no difference in the damage mod
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.26 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 26/10/2004 22:29:43
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I've got Assault Frigate lvl 4, Surg 4, Small Hyb 5, Small Rail Spec. 4.
I'll check my stats in the morning - it's bedtime!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.26 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 26/10/2004 22:29:43
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I've got Assault Frigate lvl 4, Surg 4, Small Hyb 5, Small Rail Spec. 4.
I'll check my stats in the morning - it's bedtime!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.27 23:33:00 -
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Did it work for you Joshua?
Mine is still bugged, got assault ship 3 and pulse spec. 3 now but only get dmg bonus from the pulse spec.
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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.27 23:33:00 -
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Did it work for you Joshua?
Mine is still bugged, got assault ship 3 and pulse spec. 3 now but only get dmg bonus from the pulse spec.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.10.27 23:51:00 -
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There was me thinking 5% falloff on my wolf was the worst assault ship bonus .. but at least it works 
*pokes CCP*
Fix the retribution's bonus please 
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.10.27 23:51:00 -
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There was me thinking 5% falloff on my wolf was the worst assault ship bonus .. but at least it works
*pokes CCP*
Fix the retribution's bonus please
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.10.28 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
There was me thinking 5% falloff on my wolf was the worst assault ship bonus .. but at least it works
falloff bonus rocks, if you know how to benefit most from it. :P
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.10.28 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
There was me thinking 5% falloff on my wolf was the worst assault ship bonus .. but at least it works
falloff bonus rocks, if you know how to benefit most from it. :P
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.10.28 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zyrla Bladestorm on 28/10/2004 01:27:09
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
There was me thinking 5% falloff on my wolf was the worst assault ship bonus .. but at least it works
falloff bonus rocks, if you know how to benefit most from it. :P
Well,
if you use artillery 5% falloff is a rather small bonus compared to most of the range bonuses going around, 10% optimal works "ok"
if you use autocannons 5% falloff works ok, but 10% optimal is a tiny bonus
Comparing it with 10% optimal working well for both types of lasers and railguns, ok for blasters and all of those ships getting a good second bonus ...
Since the ship has both 10% optimal and 5% falloff I'm lumping it in the "Flexible" category  Not that 5% damage or 10% recharge or 5% tracking aren't just as flexible bonuses if you ask me.
Now if the falloff bonus was 10% I probably would be a lot happier with it, just feels a bit at present like its using two ship bonuses to achieve what most of the other ships/setups do with one bonus
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.10.28 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zyrla Bladestorm on 28/10/2004 01:27:09
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
There was me thinking 5% falloff on my wolf was the worst assault ship bonus .. but at least it works
falloff bonus rocks, if you know how to benefit most from it. :P
Well,
if you use artillery 5% falloff is a rather small bonus compared to most of the range bonuses going around, 10% optimal works "ok"
if you use autocannons 5% falloff works ok, but 10% optimal is a tiny bonus
Comparing it with 10% optimal working well for both types of lasers and railguns, ok for blasters and all of those ships getting a good second bonus ...
Since the ship has both 10% optimal and 5% falloff I'm lumping it in the "Flexible" category Not that 5% damage or 10% recharge or 5% tracking aren't just as flexible bonuses if you ask me.
Now if the falloff bonus was 10% I probably would be a lot happier with it, just feels a bit at present like its using two ship bonuses to achieve what most of the other ships/setups do with one bonus
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Tor Drakt'hal
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Posted - 2004.10.29 01:21:00 -
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I'm having the same problem.
I equiped the same weapon i had on my retribution to my punisher and it didnt change.
Repacked it etc, still stayed the same. I hope a dev reads and fixes this soon :P
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Tor Drakt'hal
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Posted - 2004.10.29 01:21:00 -
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I'm having the same problem.
I equiped the same weapon i had on my retribution to my punisher and it didnt change.
Repacked it etc, still stayed the same. I hope a dev reads and fixes this soon :P
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Tor Drakt'hal
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Posted - 2004.10.29 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tor Drakt'hal on 29/10/2004 01:25:18
Doh! Double posted that message
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Tor Drakt'hal
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Posted - 2004.10.29 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tor Drakt'hal on 29/10/2004 01:25:18
Doh! Double posted that message
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.10.29 02:16:00 -
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Jst relog, always works.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.10.29 02:16:00 -
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Jst relog, always works.
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Tor Drakt'hal
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Posted - 2004.10.29 08:15:00 -
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Relogging doesnt work.
Neither does repackaging.
Even checked with a tech 1 weapon to see if it was only tech 2 weapons bugged. Also had someone else test and they also confirmed the same bug.
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Tor Drakt'hal
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Posted - 2004.10.29 08:15:00 -
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Relogging doesnt work.
Neither does repackaging.
Even checked with a tech 1 weapon to see if it was only tech 2 weapons bugged. Also had someone else test and they also confirmed the same bug.
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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.29 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Jst relog, always works.
yeah, like that havenŠt been tested
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Alt Spy
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Posted - 2004.10.29 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Jst relog, always works.
yeah, like that havenŠt been tested
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:08:00 -
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Think this is just the Retribution at most since the Vengance bonus works just fine.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:08:00 -
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Think this is just the Retribution at most since the Vengance bonus works just fine.
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