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Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:28:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:---Update.
Sad news everyone.
Goonswarm have whined CCP into nerfing the Inferno Wardec System because they hated the idea of ever losing even a fraction of their numerical advantage.
Basically defensive allies are being massively nerfed and it will no longer be possible to lock an attacker into a conflict via mutual war that includes any allies at all. (This means that Goonswarm will be able to shed significant offensive wars any time they please without consequence).
And on financial matters - the implication is that it'll be more expensive to call sufficient allies as a defender than it is to make the initial wardec from a 9000 person alliance against a 100 person alliance.
Ah well shrug really.
I guess we'll call it a form of moral victory that Mittani was forced to beg his mates at CCP to nerf the Inferno Wardec System because Goonswarm was being effectively opposed through the ally system.
I'm not sure that we made whine threads anywhere about this. The problem became obvious immediately after launch of the Inferno Wardec System when Pandemic Legion started selling war rights with -A- for 1 isk. You are not the first to abuse the system but you will probably be the last, at least until we find loopholes after it is "fixed". |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 17:20:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: I think you disapproved of the possibility that the wardec might actually have hurt you.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha that was a good one i'm glad even enemies like us can toss jokes around Well the real joke is that Inferno Wardecs are about to become Damp Squib wardecs and its back to nobody cares about them whatsoever. Good game CCP. (lucky we have FW which rocks!)
Can you whine any more?
Serious question. |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 17:20:00 -
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And now I'm expecting a snarky response with the words "serious question" at the end because Jade is the king of Forum PVP and ~knows that would show me what for~ |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 17:55:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: hmmm how about blowing up your jump-freighters full of moon minerals :)
As a GSOL ~sub director~ I can tell you that we don't use in-corp freighters to move moon goo. Why would you ever think that we would do that? |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 18:18:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Haquer wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: hmmm how about blowing up your jump-freighters full of moon minerals :)
As a GSOL ~sub director~ I can tell you that we don't use in-corp freighters to move moon goo. Why would you ever think that we would do that? Well, if your logistics techniques are as capable as your forum posting then it was a fair assumption they'd be pretty terrible.
Sick posting burn. If only I didn't hear those daily from people that are actually funny. |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 18:18:00 -
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"I just lost an argument due to ignorance... BETTER INSULT HIS POSTING" |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 01:10:00 -
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I like the part where Jade's Tinfoil Tiara (he roleplays an insane transvestite, you see) got the Sisi feedback thread locked. |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.13 18:45:00 -
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zxc Uisen wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: They will be considerably more careful in the new system I think.
jade reminder i am still, many posts later, waiting on your explanation for why on earth goonswarm leadership would be scared of you just reminding you again Goonswarm have made almost a 1000 posts in 24 hours bleating and whinging in favour of the Inferno ally wardec nerf. If it bleats like a goat it probably is a goat. Currently you guys are facing 40 allies that we've raised in 4 days. Unless you are able to slamduck the Inferno 1.1 nerf into place by any means neccessary you will be facing 400 by this time next year. It will be impossible for any goonswarm member to travel anywhere in hisec in anything bigger than a cloaking bomber. You are not scared. You are terrified. And the stink of your fear can be detected in every desperate post you make. most of those aren't goonswarm leadership: you conceded that goonswarm rank and file loved it so what is it im afraid of jade, i'm still looking for my answer that is even remotely plausible nice sticking to your guns, but it's always the same thing, "nerf the other guy, ccp, flawed mechanic". and whoever whines the loudest, wins. And it's no secret the 'harder' you claim to be, the more you need to 'htfu', hence goon whining -> nerf bat -> goon spin efforts... good for you, i guess
I've yet to see any goon whining over the wardec changes. Just countless posts calling Jade a lunatic who was abusing a broken mechanic and complaining that CCP wanted to change it. |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 03:42:00 -
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zxc Uisen wrote:Haquer wrote:
I've yet to see any goon whining over the wardec changes. Just countless posts calling Jade a lunatic who was abusing a broken mechanic and complaining that CCP wanted to change it.
oh, i see what you did there, very nice spin, i call it "the reset button"
What are you talking about?
Can you give any proof that goons were whining, or will you continue calling this "spinning" when you have 0 proof. |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 03:50:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Ryoken McKeon wrote:Anyone who thinks Goonswarm wouldn't love to have a huge unending war with half of EVE doesn't understand goons. If I had to guess, the decision to do the right thing for mercenary corps was a painful one. Thats certainly the propaganda they put out - its not true in the slightest. Else why do they have the biggest NAP train in 0.0 ? That is not a decision designed to get more targets. Similar deal in hisec wars - they want to control the declaration and throw their numbers at selective "grief-targets" - they were fine when this was happening and only started yelping and begging for intervention when they were fed to their own machine. This mythology that goons want more targets is simply bunkum. Star Fraction has a longer red list than the goons.
Keep whining and posting absolute bullshit. Maybe one day somebody will believe you. |
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