Responding to title: Raise pickpocketing to at least 20

honestly, i dont understand why everyone is calling me a troll. this community is worse than ToR and WoW COMBINED.

The other day some guy in a cloaked Panther stole ore from my jetcan in a belt I was mining Pyroxeres in. Apparently taking my own ore back was a criminal offense, but since it was a highsec area, I figured it would just give me some minor security standing loss.

To my surprise I became a kill-on-sight target. Still managed to get out of there with half the quantity I had mined. I learned a valuable lesson there: Minmatar ships shoot as poorly as their design suggests.

Let me count the ways:

1. Because everything about you screams GÇ£altGÇ¥.
2. Because you are obviously already creating other alts.
3. Because your corp should tell you this.
4. Because you're asking about the troll topic du jour.
5. Because you already know about rookie chat and still don't know the answer.
6. Because you already know about can mining, which comes in tandem with knowing about canflipping.

6. I just wanted to know how its done.

Did you have WCS fitted or did the Panther fail to point you?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I took my precautions, I could have looted all the ore in my bestower, but since that one had T2 stuff equipped I didn't want to risk losing it.

The Sigil was almost completely unequipped, except for some cargo expanders. By the time he had me targeted i was halfway charging my warp drive back to the station. He managed to fire three times before I jumped. It did destroy my entire shield and armor and about half my hull, but still .... that's a T2 ship and mine was just a poorly equipped T1 industrial.

To be honest, I wasn't expecting to get out of there at that point. Was definitely the most fun I've had mining.

not creating other alts because they can't train.

my corp is dead.

have you seen rookie chat lately?

I just wanted to know how its done.

[quote=Adalun Dey]So the Panther failed to get a point (warp disruptor) on you.

Thanks for the information. I would read this post again, even lacking a direct answer.

Probably my fault for using the term "point" in a mining thread anyway...

I'm sure he wasn't equipped with a warp disruptor. Or he thought he wouldn't need one. Thanks for the hint though, I'll equip a warp core stabilizer or two next time.

Please don't.

The best thing you can do is mine aligned.

Be that to bookmarks of your own making, or celestials, or stations, it's up to you.

But you can warp out IMMEDIATELY if you are pre-aligned.

This means you will be moving, though, and have to lock rocks as you move past them.

Doing this, you can fit for max yield and still mine in safety.

Enjoy.

I'm always pre-aligned when I'm mining, also I don't steal my own ore back with my mining ship. I meant putting warp core stabilizers on my industrial ship. The one that doesn't mine. And only gets used to transport ore around.

I'm always pre-aligned when I'm mining, also I don't steal my own ore back with my mining ship. I meant putting warp core stabilizers on my industrial ship. The one that doesn't mine. And only gets used to transport ore around.

You are one of the bright ones.

I now understand a little better how the Panther may have failed to point you.

His primary target likely left the field too quickly. That is, your pre-aligned mining ship.

You would do well to extoll the virtues of mining aligned to the rest of this sub-community of Eve.

Just to be sure, when you say you're aligned, what's your ship's speed?

If it's 0, you've fallen victim to the most pervasive myth perpetuated by stupid EvE miners.

Heh, as much as I like flattery, my mining ship had already left the field before my industrial ship even arrived (only have one account, remember?). But I first arrived in a Bestower, circled around the jet can and came to the conclusion that taking the ore might pose a danger to my ship. Not willing to risk it I went back to the station and grabbed my underwhelming Sigil.

When I arrived back at the jetcan (which was bookmarked) I noticed an Iteron flying casually towards that very same can. I figured it was the same player as the one with the Panther, who had decided that I wasn't going to grab the bait after all, and was now just going to take the ore himself.

With my amazing powers of deduction I took a gamble and guessed that he had his Panther docked at some station and he couldn't shoot me in that Iteron. Guess he had two account though, but he wasn't fast enough switching back to the other one as I still managed to get out of there.

It's 0, but are you going to sacrifice a Panther in highsec to destroy a Retriever?

The EvE server sees ships as vectors. If their speed is zero, their time to warp is exactly the same in any direction, so "passive" alignment is a myth. Either you're aligned and moving, or you're unaligned. 75% of your current max speed is warpable, so moving at that speed provides instant warp, moving slower takes progressively longer to warp until your EFT align time at 0 speed (Full speed the opposite direction of where you want to go is somewhat longer).

If you were at zero speed when you reflipped the can (marking you as shootable), only the ineptitude of the panther pilot kept you alive.

so the best counter to this, is to reflip the can?

so the best counter to this, is to reflip the can?

so the best counter to this, is to reflip the can?

Just make sure that when you reflip it, you are doing it with a ship that can carry the whole load, you have warp core stabilizers equipped and you are moving at at least 75% of the speed in the direction you want to warp to.

Right?

So no, no WCS. I asked that question earlier to try to help you avoid a scan res penalty.