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Hrodgar Ortal
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.09 15:13:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Hrodgar Ortal
Wish the Swedish Nobel committee could revoke the Norwegians right to give out the price. This together with several other choices are just pathetic and in this case seems more motivated by being starstruck like teenage girls.
They cant, because its in his will that Norway gets to decide. In any case, it seems many here havent even read the reason for him getting the award, and I suspect many people dont even know what the peace price is. Obama is a well deserving winner.
I'm well aware they can't.
I said "wish".
You should also be aware of the fact that the Nobel prize, regardless of what the Norwegian committee claims is for deeds done.
Read the will.
That they also take into account that someone should continue to work for whatever they are awarded the prize for is ok, but it still doesn't mean they can give it to someone that hasn't done anything.
Everyone who has gotten it in the past have done something apart from not being GW Bush.
I'm not against him winning it in the future if he had done something but awarding it solely on the hope that he will deliver nuclear disarmament, global warming gas reductions and peace in various places of the globe is very odd.
The odds are he won't deliver any of those regardless of how much work he does and that he due to the fact that popularity among European elites isn't popular in the US will not get a second term.
Basically, the chances are greater this prize will be counterproductive to the goals of peace.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:08:00 -
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President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.
LetÆs take a look at the presidentÆs first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:
January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.
January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an ôopen houseö party at the White House.
January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (howÆs that working out?)
January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.
January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.
January 25: Skipped church.
January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.
January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.
January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.
January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.
January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.
January 31: Took the day off.
February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.
So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.
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wickedpheonix
Caldari
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:24:00 -
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When the Nobel Prize goes for efforts towards peace rather than the achievement of peace, it's because a large amount of significant progress has been made and peace is likely to happen as a result of it at the awarding of the prize. That's why Woodrow Wilson won it in 1919, for founding the League of Nations. Had the League of Nations brought about peace yet? No - but it was a major step towards it. What has Obama done in this regard? Gotten people to *maybe* stop burning American flags abroad and issued stern words against Iran for their nuclear weapons program? And that gets him the Nobel Peace Prize? NOTHING'S HAPPENED YET - using this analogy, Benjamin Netanyahu (Prime Minister of Israel) deserves the Peace Prize because he's definitely put in more of an effort to curtail Iran and work towards the Peace Process in the Middle East just like virtually every Israeli Prime Minister before him. See his recent speech to the UN: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116884.html
"This is the first time the award is given for wishful thinking," - Danny Danon, a Likud party member (liberal conservatism/conservatism) of the Knesset (Israeli parliament). Couldn't put it better myself.
Glad to see I'm not the only sane person playing EVE.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:26:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Hoo Is
President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.
LetÆs take a look at the presidentÆs first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:
January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.
January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an ôopen houseö party at the White House.
January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (howÆs that working out?)
January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.
January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.
January 25: Skipped church.
January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.
January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.
January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.
January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.
January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.
January 31: Took the day off.
February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.
So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.
Well done on quoting Rupert Murdoch owned media. Doesn't make it any more legit.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:36:00 -
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Obama also threw out the first pitch at the All Star Game... I guess he should be inducted into the baseball hall of fame now too.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:45:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Obama also threw out the first pitch at the All Star Game... I guess he should be inducted into the baseball hall of fame now too.
I'm gonna write him in for the next All Star game in every sport just because he is an interracial president and speaks a lot with out acting on anything he says
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Ariinn
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:59:00 -
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Im from Norway and for the moment Im ashamed of being a Norwegian.
Maybe Obama deserve this award in the future, once he have done what he claims he will do, but as for now, all Obama have done is talking.
In norwegians newspapers polls says 9 of 10 Norwegians dont approve Obama as a worthy receiver of the peace price, and its premature. The comite leader is a former dork of a Prime minister in Norway (Jagland), which is concidered as a joke, unless your a fanatic dedicator on voting on the labour party, and this result fits his ways of solving problems.
ON THE OTHER HAND... maybe the comite think they can "force" Obama to act on his promises... |
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Well done on quoting Rupert Murdoch owned media. Doesn't make it any more legit.
While I am sure Hoo Is copied that from FoxNews or someother right wing spot... it is true.
What exactly did he do for those 12 days between being elected and the deadline to deserve the award?
Or was it for his great oratory skills during the campaign???
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:03:00 -
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Norweigans, can't co-operate with them, can't hide them. 
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:08:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
What exactly did he do for those 12 days between being elected and the deadline to deserve the award?
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:15:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
What exactly did he do for those 12 days between being elected and the deadline to deserve the award?
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
How so, what did he accomplish prior to being elected president that would make him worthy of this award
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:17:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
Being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize means nothing? What, they have no standards in the nomination process?
Even since his nomination he has sent more troops to war than Bush. He's ramped up conflict and is now aiming a gun at Iran.
He's done nothing for peace but make speeches. And peace speeches mean nothing if you make them while you're military is dropping bombs.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:23:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Orion Eridanus
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How so, what did he accomplish prior to being elected president that would make him worthy of this award
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.
For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
Oslo, October 9, 2009
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:50:00 -
[44]
LOL @ all the QQ'ing.
Look whiners (Americans!)
He's the President for the next 4 years. Get ~ over ~ it. Suck O'Rielly's **** some more, and QQ with that race bating piece of **** Glenn Beck. But yea - if you whine and stomp your feet enough over the next couple of years, after the next election you might get this:
While it's a little strange that he did get the award so soon in his term, the few months he's spent in office are light years better than the last 8 years of Bush IMMA TEH DECIDAR! bull****.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:51:00 -
[45]
I've read the citation, I still would like to be shown how he did this prior to being elected president since he didn't do any of that between being president and the nomination deadline.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:55:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Faekurias on 09/10/2009 17:55:29
All hot air and no action.
Guess the ones who really deserved the award (for example : Lidija Jusupova or Hu Jia ) should have been full of crap and tried to attention***** instead of actually doing things that matter.
Funny that the President of a nation who is one of the most war-mongering right now receives the Nobel Peace Price.
Pure disrespect against Nobels' Will.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:00:00 -
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* Maria Skłodowska-Curie: in Physics 1903, for the discovery of radioactivity; and in Chemistry 1911, for the isolation of pure radium
* Linus Pauling: in Chemistry 1954, for his research into the nature of the chemical bond and its application to the elucidation of the structure of complex substances; and Peace 1962, for nuclear test-ban treaty activism; he is the only person to have won two unshared Nobel Prizes.[33]
* John Bardeen: in Physics 1956, for the invention of the transistor; and Physics 1972, for the theory of superconductivity.
* Frederick Sanger: in Chemistry 1958, for structure of the insulin molecule; and in Chemistry 1980, for virus nucleotide sequencing.
*President Barack Obama: in peace 2009, for saying he will change things and bring world peace... He didn't do it but atleast he tried!
Makes sense to me, congrats Mr president.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:03:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Zedic
LOL @ all the QQ'ing.
Look whiners (Americans!)
He's the President for the next 4 years. Get ~ over ~ it. Suck O'Rielly's **** some more, and QQ with that race bating piece of **** Glenn Beck. But yea - if you whine and stomp your feet enough over the next couple of years, after the next election you might get this:
While it's a little strange that he did get the award so soon in his term, the few months he's spent in office are light years better than the last 8 years of Bush IMMA TEH DECIDAR! bull****.
Sweet image dude, when did we annex Canada into The United States of Liberty and Education Except for Geography.
I also love how you automatically assume that I love the right wing because I disagree with him being awarded this. You should stop being a fanboy and look at what he did prior to February 1st in the international arena and then attempt to find as many palms as possible to get the proper facepalm required for the facepalm his awarding deserves.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:10:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Zedic
While it's a little strange that he did get the award so soon in his term, the few months he's spent in office are light years better than the last 8 years of Bush IMMA TEH DECIDAR! bull****.
So you are saying since he is better then a monkey he should be praised and awarded?
Fail troll tbh.
PS:I hate the 5 minute wait, ffs it is incredibly annoying.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:20:00 -
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Never underestimate the power and scope of the Teleprompter of the United States.
What is going to be even more funny is when Obama completely fails at all of his foreign policy "goals." There will be no disarmament. In fact, more countries will obtain nuclear weapons or start development (Brazil, Venezuela, Japan, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia...). Its amazing that a prize was given to a man that will do anything he can to delay action to protect democracies, by increasing "dialogue." How has dialogue worked in North Korea?
And it was awarded the day the United States pre-emptively attacked the moon, just because it was there.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:58:00 -
[51]
President Obama and Ahmadinejad a Chamberlin Story
Obama: Hey there Iran, I see your elections were kind of rough. Tough crowd huh?
Ahmadinejad: Bah they didn't know what they were doing, we just made sure things were done correctly.
Obama: Oh yeah totally, I feel you, I feel you. I too am reforming our education system, right after I get done with health care. I see your building nuclear enrichment facilities... Are you trying to make a bomb?
Ahmadinejad: We are indeed making a bomb. Were gonna call it Purger I.
Obama: Well alright, I guess fair is fair, just as long as you don't point it anyone.
Ahmadinejad: We're going to launch it at the heart of Israel. Death to the infidels!
Obama: Oh well, I guess that's OK they don't really count. Just as long as you don't point it at anyone other then the Israelis.
Ahmadinejad: Death to the infidels!
Later that day.
Obama: I think that went rather well, don't you?
Political Aid: Yes sir, you are fantastic! By the way Norway called you won the peace prize.
Obama: Finally.
-Jin Nib
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:06:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Jin Nib
President Obama and Ahmadinejad a Chamberlin Story
Obama: Hey there Iran, I see your elections were kind of rough. Tough crowd huh?
Ahmadinejad: Bah they didn't know what they were doing, we just made sure things were done correctly.
Obama: Oh yeah totally, I feel you, I feel you. I too am reforming our education system, right after I get done with health care. I see your building nuclear enrichment facilities... Are you trying to make a bomb?
Ahmadinejad: We are indeed making a bomb. Were gonna call it Purger I.
Obama: Well alright, I guess fair is fair, just as long as you don't point it anyone.
Ahmadinejad: We're going to launch it at the heart of Israel. Death to the infidels!
Obama: Oh well, I guess that's OK they don't really count. Just as long as you don't point it at anyone other then the Israelis.
Ahmadinejad: Death to the infidels!
Later that day.
Obama: I think that went rather well, don't you?
Political Aid: Yes sir, you are fantastic! By the way Norway called you won the peace prize.
Obama: Finally.
Win
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:14:00 -
[53]
I figured it out.... voting "Present" in the senate got it for him
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:58:00 -
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* Tinfoil hat ON *
Norway is a member of NATO.
When Norway had a choise between american and swedish jet figthers they not only choose the american ones but as an extra insult said the swedish ones were crap.
Norway gives Obama the peace prize.
Obviously they are trying to bribe their way into becoming the 51st state!
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Nai Ling
Amarr
Middle Finger Technology
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:09:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Corwain
<-- American
WTF? He ain't even DONE anything yet...god DAMN that man is popular. He wins every popularity contest ever it seems.
well, the man probably has all his social skills trained to lvl5.
ROFL
Winner!
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:23:00 -
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The man has done nothing significant as a senator or in the time between being elected and the cut off date so I see only 2 possibilities.
1. He was put at the top of the list shortly after he was elected or took office. Given the high the world was on when he was elected this wouldnt surprise me.
2. Dispite the cut off date, his name was added to the list of cannidates afterwards. Given that they follow the 50 year rule by the time the list is made accessable it will be a moot point.
Either way given the nature of humanity does this really surprise anyone? The world is nothing more then a huge high school where politics rarely make any sence.
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evil fascist
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:27:00 -
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"WAR IS PEACE"
These words from George Orwell's dystopic masterpiece "1984" just came to its right yet again.
This is just 
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:09:00 -
[58]
Maybe they gave it to him to help prevent him from going into Iran.
"Woot, I just won the Nobel Peace Prize"
"Now lets bomb the hell out of Iran"
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:10:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Daedalus II
* Tinfoil hat ON *
Norway is a member of NATO.
When Norway had a choise between american and swedish jet figthers they not only choose the american ones but as an extra insult said the swedish ones were crap.
Norway gives Obama the peace prize.
Obviously they are trying to bribe their way into becoming the 51st state!
You dont need a tinfoil hat to see that the Gripen is a **** fighter compared with the F35. I mean the Saab Gripen is a failed fighter. No on really uses it. They sold some plans to a former Soviet state, and leased one fighter to south Africa.
Only a moron would buy the Gripen.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Redflare
Caldari
Lompoc-Amish Industrial Labs
SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Redflare on 09/10/2009 21:12:24
Here's a fresh point of view: YOU, somehow, are President.
The Nobel Peace Prize is another boon in your favor when you make decisions. Whatever you do holds just a little more credit.
I agree it's early, but the Nobel Committee essentially awarded the prize for what he CAN do. Obama's job becomes a bit easier.
It was up to the Nobel Committee in the end. Anyone have actual text of their reasoning behind awarding Obama the Peace Prize?
BTW I always looking around everywhere, here's a good quote I found on John Scalzi's (kickass sci-fi author) blog:
Quote:
I know I was thinking the same thing. How legitimate is the Nobel prize for someone who really hasnÆt done anything? The interview with some citizens from around the world helped me at least understand why he was given the Nobel prize.
The Bush Administration turned the US into this unilateral decision making entity that ****ed a lot of international bodies/rulers off. The simple fact that Obama wants to work with these nations/rulers/international organizations goes a long way to repair some of that damage. Obama (and therefore America) is now supporting a multilateral decision making process and to other nations that support is significant.
The Nobel Peace prize was given as a carrot/reward for changing America from a decision making body into a member of the international community. They are trying to encourage us to continue in that role.
Am I 100% convinced that he deserved the Nobel Prize at this point? No, but I do think that there is some appreciation for his inclusive approach to trying to solve the worldÆs problems.
Rabid
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