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Haraldhardrade
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Posted - 2009.10.09 09:51:00 -
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Congratulations to president Obama.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.09 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 09/10/2009 10:23:19
 Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Congratulations to president Obama.
wait huh?
well **** that must be true.
I guess that people gathering for beer can indeed bring peace
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Posted - 2009.10.09 10:34:00 -
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The idiocy... it burns me.
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vulnevia
EVE Marshals
Prismatic Refraction
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Posted - 2009.10.09 11:06:00 -
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It's a big joke imho, that a guy who's got 2 wars in his hand, and wont close Guantanamo can get the Peace prize. Almost as hilarous as the 1994 prize to Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin.
It's PEACE price, not WAR price... 
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2009.10.09 11:07:00 -
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I totally thought this was a joke lol. I had to look at like five news sites to convince myself it wasn't.
Good job mister Obama, at, um, whatever it was that you did.
PS: It's still a joke, just not in the right way. 
-Jin Nib
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Kravick Drasani
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Posted - 2009.10.09 11:40:00 -
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This award has lost all of its credibility.
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Originally by: Rilwar
If you want to nag on warp speed, how about the question of "Why does my Crow manage to go 9.5AU/s for 2 seconds during a 9AU jump?"
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Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar
People with Guns
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.10.09 11:56:00 -
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The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
So, he really didn't do anything at all, just made an effort to do something. Talk about "A for effort" time!
Think this was a horrible decision by the Nobel Committee that basically places them in the "We Love Obama and he can do no wrong" bandwagon.
And, yes, I am a US citizen.
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani
This award has lost all of its credibility.
you're not kidding...
"January 30, 2004 08:03
President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair are among nominees for the 2004 Nobel Peace Prize before a Sunday deadline for nominations despite failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
oh and.... Originally by: Nefrin Maldoes
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The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
So, he really didn't do anything at all, just made an effort to do something. Talk about "A for effort" time!
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:05:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Kravick Drasani
This award has lost all of its credibility.
Aye. Its disgusting.
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Galen Naranek
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:17:00 -
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I think it is appropriate. Jimmy Carter won the peace prize in 2002; he was the worst president in the history of the USA and was booted after only one term. Now Obama aspires to that mantle, and we can only hope his tenure is the same.
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Hrodgar Ortal
Minmatar
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:23:00 -
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If had at least managed to do anything it could have been acceptable. But to be honest, all has has done is release a lot of hot air.
Wish the Swedish Nobel committee could revoke the Norwegians right to give out the price. This together with several other choices are just pathetic and in this case seems more motivated by being starstruck like teenage girls.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:27:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Hrodgar Ortal
Wish the Swedish Nobel committee could revoke the Norwegians right to give out the price. This together with several other choices are just pathetic and in this case seems more motivated by being starstruck like teenage girls.
They cant, because its in his will that Norway gets to decide. In any case, it seems many here havent even read the reason for him getting the award, and I suspect many people dont even know what the peace price is. Obama is a well deserving winner.
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 09/10/2009 12:44:02
Actually no, gtfo. Not even going to rage about this.
Also;
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Edited by: Haraldhardrade on 09/10/2009 12:41:15
Edited by: Haraldhardrade on 09/10/2009 12:40:00
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.
For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
Oslo, October 9, 2009
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Edit: to be honest, my King has been clueless and useless for quite a while too.
Your king has not a say in the issue. He has nothing to do with the nobel awards. Perhaps you are angry because you know nothing about the will og Alfred Nobel.
No, I meant the part where I raged about American Presidents being useless.
Also, yase, Obama is a true Miss Universe.
HE sure has talked a lot but hasn't done anything of note. Can't believe they were so easy to fool but then again, Norwegians v0v.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Haraldhardrade on 09/10/2009 12:41:15
Edited by: Haraldhardrade on 09/10/2009 12:40:00
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.
For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
Oslo, October 9, 2009
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Edit: to be honest, my King has been clueless and useless for quite a while too.
Your king has not a say in the issue. He has nothing to do with the nobel awards. Perhaps you are angry because you know nothing about the will og Alfred Nobel.
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Corwain
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:47:00 -
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WTF? He ain't even DONE anything yet...god DAMN that man is popular. He wins every popularity contest ever it seems.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
<-- American
WTF? He ain't even DONE anything yet...god DAMN that man is popular. He wins every popularity contest ever it seems.
well, the man probably has all his social skills trained to lvl5.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
The Rise of The Dragon Knights
Void Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Kravick Drasani
This award has lost all of its credibility.
Aye. Its disgusting.
This.
Slap in the face for all the regular chaps who dedicate their life to Peace.
Next they'll be handing out Nobel Peace Prizes with happy meals. 
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Posted - 2009.10.09 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani
This award has lost all of its credibility.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee lost it's credibility a long time ago.
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.10.09 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani
This award has lost all of its credibility.
This pretty much covers it.
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Posted - 2009.10.09 13:58:00 -
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I can just see Faux News not even saying anything.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 13:59:00 -
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Initial nominations were due on February 3rd, Obama had been in office for approximately 14 days. I don't seem to recall him doing anything in that time period that brought about peace ANYWHERE. He was probably still deciding how to redecorate the white house at that point. Talk about a bunch of fanboys. If he was a real man he would turn down the award saying he hasn't done anything yet.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Heavens Gate Consortium
Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:03:00 -
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Okay, he's not really to blame for the ****-ups his predecessor made, but in 9 months, he hasn't actually made any progress towards undoing any of it. At least give the man a chance to do something deserving of the medal before awarding it to him, otherwise it just bigs him up for no reason and amplifies his future mistakes.
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:06:00 -
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These guys should have gotten it instead.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:16:00 -
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I would just like to thank the eve community for seeing how insanely stupid it is to award Obama the Peace Prize. I was beginning to feel like the last sane man.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
I would just like to thank the eve community for seeing how insanely stupid it is to award Obama the Peace Prize. I was beginning to feel like the last sane man.
It seems both you and the 'eve community' is completely ignorant of what the nobel peace prize is.
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Common misconceptions about the Nobel Peace Prize
An award that generates as much interest as the Nobel Peace Prize is bound to be surrounded by myths. Geir Lundestad, secretary of the secretive committee that awards the prize, outlines for The Associated Press some of the most common misunderstandings:
_ Myth: The awards committee announces a shortlist of candidates.
The committee does not release the names of any candidates and keeps records sealed for 50 years.
_ Myth: A campaign for a particular candidate can sway the awards committee.
A campaign could have the exact opposite effect on the fiercely independent committee, which does not want to appear influenced by public pressure.
_ Myth: Candidates can be nominated until the last minute.
The nomination deadline is eight months before the announcement, with a strictly enforced deadline of Feb. 1.
_ Myth: Anyone can nominate a person or group for the Peace Prize.
No, although Nobel statutes on who can nominate were slightly broadened in 2003. They now include former laureates; current and former members of the committee and their staff; members of national governments and legislatures; university professors of law, theology, social sciences, history and philosophy; leaders of peace research and foreign affairs institutes; and members of international courts of law.
_ Myth: The prize can be revoked if a laureate does not live up to the standards of the peace prize.
There are no provisions for revoking the prize.
_ Myth: The prize can be awarded posthumously.
The prize was award posthumously only once ł in 1961, to former U.N. Secretary-General Dag Hammerskjold, after he was killed in a plane crash in Africa. The rules were amended in 1974 to prohibit posthumous prizes.
_ Myth: The prize is awarded to recognize efforts for peace, human rights and democracy only after they have proven successful.
More often, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments.
Can all the stupid and uneducated please be quiet from now on?
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Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar
People with Guns
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nefrin Maldoes on 09/10/2009 14:32:03
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_ Myth: Candidates can be nominated until the last minute.
The nomination deadline is eight months before the announcement, with a strictly enforced deadline of Feb. 1.
Ok, with your own quote, I will sink this argument. Please tell me what the hell Obama did PRIOR to Feb 1 of this year that would warrant him the Nobel? At that point in the states, his only accomplishment had been being the first Black President, and that has NOTHING to do with any kind of Peace efforts, successful or not.
I stick by my former statement that this is nothing more then the Nobel committee jumping on the Obama fanboy bandwagon.
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:31:00 -
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"According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."[1]
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So again, what work has Obama done?
Anyone can talk the talk.
Seems you might want to retract your footbullet of a statement.
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Elora Danzik
Caldari
Idiots In Spaceships
Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:36:00 -
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they talked about this on the NPR this morning.
One suggestion made was that it was more of an international slap to Dumbyah, then anything else. It also was jumping on the Kennedy.....Obama bandwangon.
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Lord Windu
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:52:00 -
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Pic Linky
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Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu
Pic Linky
I remember this award was going to be nominated to George W Bush and Tony Blair a while ago, although it was met with strong protest I believe.
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Hrodgar Ortal
Minmatar
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2009.10.09 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Hrodgar Ortal
Wish the Swedish Nobel committee could revoke the Norwegians right to give out the price. This together with several other choices are just pathetic and in this case seems more motivated by being starstruck like teenage girls.
They cant, because its in his will that Norway gets to decide. In any case, it seems many here havent even read the reason for him getting the award, and I suspect many people dont even know what the peace price is. Obama is a well deserving winner.
I'm well aware they can't.
I said "wish".
You should also be aware of the fact that the Nobel prize, regardless of what the Norwegian committee claims is for deeds done.
Read the will.
That they also take into account that someone should continue to work for whatever they are awarded the prize for is ok, but it still doesn't mean they can give it to someone that hasn't done anything.
Everyone who has gotten it in the past have done something apart from not being GW Bush.
I'm not against him winning it in the future if he had done something but awarding it solely on the hope that he will deliver nuclear disarmament, global warming gas reductions and peace in various places of the globe is very odd.
The odds are he won't deliver any of those regardless of how much work he does and that he due to the fact that popularity among European elites isn't popular in the US will not get a second term.
Basically, the chances are greater this prize will be counterproductive to the goals of peace.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:08:00 -
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President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.
LetĘs take a look at the presidentĘs first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:
January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.
January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an ōopen houseö party at the White House.
January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (howĘs that working out?)
January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.
January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.
January 25: Skipped church.
January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.
January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.
January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.
January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.
January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.
January 31: Took the day off.
February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.
So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.
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wickedpheonix
Caldari
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
31ST Reliables Division
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:24:00 -
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When the Nobel Prize goes for efforts towards peace rather than the achievement of peace, it's because a large amount of significant progress has been made and peace is likely to happen as a result of it at the awarding of the prize. That's why Woodrow Wilson won it in 1919, for founding the League of Nations. Had the League of Nations brought about peace yet? No - but it was a major step towards it. What has Obama done in this regard? Gotten people to *maybe* stop burning American flags abroad and issued stern words against Iran for their nuclear weapons program? And that gets him the Nobel Peace Prize? NOTHING'S HAPPENED YET - using this analogy, Benjamin Netanyahu (Prime Minister of Israel) deserves the Peace Prize because he's definitely put in more of an effort to curtail Iran and work towards the Peace Process in the Middle East just like virtually every Israeli Prime Minister before him. See his recent speech to the UN: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116884.html
"This is the first time the award is given for wishful thinking," - Danny Danon, a Likud party member (liberal conservatism/conservatism) of the Knesset (Israeli parliament). Couldn't put it better myself.
Glad to see I'm not the only sane person playing EVE.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is
President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.
LetĘs take a look at the presidentĘs first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:
January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.
January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an ōopen houseö party at the White House.
January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (howĘs that working out?)
January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.
January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.
January 25: Skipped church.
January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.
January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.
January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.
January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.
January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.
January 31: Took the day off.
February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.
So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.
Well done on quoting Rupert Murdoch owned media. Doesn't make it any more legit.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:36:00 -
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Obama also threw out the first pitch at the All Star Game... I guess he should be inducted into the baseball hall of fame now too.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:45:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Obama also threw out the first pitch at the All Star Game... I guess he should be inducted into the baseball hall of fame now too.
I'm gonna write him in for the next All Star game in every sport just because he is an interracial president and speaks a lot with out acting on anything he says
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Ariinn
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Posted - 2009.10.09 16:59:00 -
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Im from Norway and for the moment Im ashamed of being a Norwegian.
Maybe Obama deserve this award in the future, once he have done what he claims he will do, but as for now, all Obama have done is talking.
In norwegians newspapers polls says 9 of 10 Norwegians dont approve Obama as a worthy receiver of the peace price, and its premature. The comite leader is a former dork of a Prime minister in Norway (Jagland), which is concidered as a joke, unless your a fanatic dedicator on voting on the labour party, and this result fits his ways of solving problems.
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:01:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Well done on quoting Rupert Murdoch owned media. Doesn't make it any more legit.
While I am sure Hoo Is copied that from FoxNews or someother right wing spot... it is true.
What exactly did he do for those 12 days between being elected and the deadline to deserve the award?
Or was it for his great oratory skills during the campaign???
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Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:03:00 -
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Norweigans, can't co-operate with them, can't hide them. 
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:08:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
What exactly did he do for those 12 days between being elected and the deadline to deserve the award?
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:15:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
What exactly did he do for those 12 days between being elected and the deadline to deserve the award?
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
How so, what did he accomplish prior to being elected president that would make him worthy of this award
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:17:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
Being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize means nothing? What, they have no standards in the nomination process?
Even since his nomination he has sent more troops to war than Bush. He's ramped up conflict and is now aiming a gun at Iran.
He's done nothing for peace but make speeches. And peace speeches mean nothing if you make them while you're military is dropping bombs.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:23:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Orion Eridanus
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How so, what did he accomplish prior to being elected president that would make him worthy of this award
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.
For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
Oslo, October 9, 2009
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:50:00 -
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LOL @ all the QQ'ing.
Look whiners (Americans!)
He's the President for the next 4 years. Get ~ over ~ it. Suck O'Rielly's **** some more, and QQ with that race bating piece of **** Glenn Beck. But yea - if you whine and stomp your feet enough over the next couple of years, after the next election you might get this:
While it's a little strange that he did get the award so soon in his term, the few months he's spent in office are light years better than the last 8 years of Bush IMMA TEH DECIDAR! bull****.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:51:00 -
[45]
I've read the citation, I still would like to be shown how he did this prior to being elected president since he didn't do any of that between being president and the nomination deadline.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:55:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Faekurias on 09/10/2009 17:55:29
All hot air and no action.
Guess the ones who really deserved the award (for example : Lidija Jusupova or Hu Jia ) should have been full of crap and tried to attention***** instead of actually doing things that matter.
Funny that the President of a nation who is one of the most war-mongering right now receives the Nobel Peace Price.
Pure disrespect against Nobels' Will.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:00:00 -
[47]
* Maria Skłodowska-Curie: in Physics 1903, for the discovery of radioactivity; and in Chemistry 1911, for the isolation of pure radium
* Linus Pauling: in Chemistry 1954, for his research into the nature of the chemical bond and its application to the elucidation of the structure of complex substances; and Peace 1962, for nuclear test-ban treaty activism; he is the only person to have won two unshared Nobel Prizes.[33]
* John Bardeen: in Physics 1956, for the invention of the transistor; and Physics 1972, for the theory of superconductivity.
* Frederick Sanger: in Chemistry 1958, for structure of the insulin molecule; and in Chemistry 1980, for virus nucleotide sequencing.
*President Barack Obama: in peace 2009, for saying he will change things and bring world peace... He didn't do it but atleast he tried!
Makes sense to me, congrats Mr president.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:03:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Zedic
LOL @ all the QQ'ing.
Look whiners (Americans!)
He's the President for the next 4 years. Get ~ over ~ it. Suck O'Rielly's **** some more, and QQ with that race bating piece of **** Glenn Beck. But yea - if you whine and stomp your feet enough over the next couple of years, after the next election you might get this:
While it's a little strange that he did get the award so soon in his term, the few months he's spent in office are light years better than the last 8 years of Bush IMMA TEH DECIDAR! bull****.
Sweet image dude, when did we annex Canada into The United States of Liberty and Education Except for Geography.
I also love how you automatically assume that I love the right wing because I disagree with him being awarded this. You should stop being a fanboy and look at what he did prior to February 1st in the international arena and then attempt to find as many palms as possible to get the proper facepalm required for the facepalm his awarding deserves.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:10:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Zedic
While it's a little strange that he did get the award so soon in his term, the few months he's spent in office are light years better than the last 8 years of Bush IMMA TEH DECIDAR! bull****.
So you are saying since he is better then a monkey he should be praised and awarded?
Fail troll tbh.
PS:I hate the 5 minute wait, ffs it is incredibly annoying.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:20:00 -
[50]
Never underestimate the power and scope of the Teleprompter of the United States.
What is going to be even more funny is when Obama completely fails at all of his foreign policy "goals." There will be no disarmament. In fact, more countries will obtain nuclear weapons or start development (Brazil, Venezuela, Japan, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia...). Its amazing that a prize was given to a man that will do anything he can to delay action to protect democracies, by increasing "dialogue." How has dialogue worked in North Korea?
And it was awarded the day the United States pre-emptively attacked the moon, just because it was there.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2009.10.09 18:58:00 -
[51]
President Obama and Ahmadinejad a Chamberlin Story
Obama: Hey there Iran, I see your elections were kind of rough. Tough crowd huh?
Ahmadinejad: Bah they didn't know what they were doing, we just made sure things were done correctly.
Obama: Oh yeah totally, I feel you, I feel you. I too am reforming our education system, right after I get done with health care. I see your building nuclear enrichment facilities... Are you trying to make a bomb?
Ahmadinejad: We are indeed making a bomb. Were gonna call it Purger I.
Obama: Well alright, I guess fair is fair, just as long as you don't point it anyone.
Ahmadinejad: We're going to launch it at the heart of Israel. Death to the infidels!
Obama: Oh well, I guess that's OK they don't really count. Just as long as you don't point it at anyone other then the Israelis.
Ahmadinejad: Death to the infidels!
Later that day.
Obama: I think that went rather well, don't you?
Political Aid: Yes sir, you are fantastic! By the way Norway called you won the peace prize.
Obama: Finally.
-Jin Nib
Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since:
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:06:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Jin Nib
President Obama and Ahmadinejad a Chamberlin Story
Obama: Hey there Iran, I see your elections were kind of rough. Tough crowd huh?
Ahmadinejad: Bah they didn't know what they were doing, we just made sure things were done correctly.
Obama: Oh yeah totally, I feel you, I feel you. I too am reforming our education system, right after I get done with health care. I see your building nuclear enrichment facilities... Are you trying to make a bomb?
Ahmadinejad: We are indeed making a bomb. Were gonna call it Purger I.
Obama: Well alright, I guess fair is fair, just as long as you don't point it anyone.
Ahmadinejad: We're going to launch it at the heart of Israel. Death to the infidels!
Obama: Oh well, I guess that's OK they don't really count. Just as long as you don't point it at anyone other then the Israelis.
Ahmadinejad: Death to the infidels!
Later that day.
Obama: I think that went rather well, don't you?
Political Aid: Yes sir, you are fantastic! By the way Norway called you won the peace prize.
Obama: Finally.
Win
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:14:00 -
[53]
I figured it out.... voting "Present" in the senate got it for him
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Daedalus II
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:58:00 -
[54]
* Tinfoil hat ON *
Norway is a member of NATO.
When Norway had a choise between american and swedish jet figthers they not only choose the american ones but as an extra insult said the swedish ones were crap.
Norway gives Obama the peace prize.
Obviously they are trying to bribe their way into becoming the 51st state!
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Nai Ling
Amarr
Middle Finger Technology
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:09:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Corwain
<-- American
WTF? He ain't even DONE anything yet...god DAMN that man is popular. He wins every popularity contest ever it seems.
well, the man probably has all his social skills trained to lvl5.
ROFL
Winner!
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:23:00 -
[56]
The man has done nothing significant as a senator or in the time between being elected and the cut off date so I see only 2 possibilities.
1. He was put at the top of the list shortly after he was elected or took office. Given the high the world was on when he was elected this wouldnt surprise me.
2. Dispite the cut off date, his name was added to the list of cannidates afterwards. Given that they follow the 50 year rule by the time the list is made accessable it will be a moot point.
Either way given the nature of humanity does this really surprise anyone? The world is nothing more then a huge high school where politics rarely make any sence.
On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod! |
evil fascist
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:27:00 -
[57]
"WAR IS PEACE"
These words from George Orwell's dystopic masterpiece "1984" just came to its right yet again.
This is just 
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:09:00 -
[58]
Maybe they gave it to him to help prevent him from going into Iran.
"Woot, I just won the Nobel Peace Prize"
"Now lets bomb the hell out of Iran"
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:10:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Daedalus II
* Tinfoil hat ON *
Norway is a member of NATO.
When Norway had a choise between american and swedish jet figthers they not only choose the american ones but as an extra insult said the swedish ones were crap.
Norway gives Obama the peace prize.
Obviously they are trying to bribe their way into becoming the 51st state!
You dont need a tinfoil hat to see that the Gripen is a **** fighter compared with the F35. I mean the Saab Gripen is a failed fighter. No on really uses it. They sold some plans to a former Soviet state, and leased one fighter to south Africa.
Only a moron would buy the Gripen.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Redflare
Caldari
Lompoc-Amish Industrial Labs
SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:11:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Redflare on 09/10/2009 21:12:24
Here's a fresh point of view: YOU, somehow, are President.
The Nobel Peace Prize is another boon in your favor when you make decisions. Whatever you do holds just a little more credit.
I agree it's early, but the Nobel Committee essentially awarded the prize for what he CAN do. Obama's job becomes a bit easier.
It was up to the Nobel Committee in the end. Anyone have actual text of their reasoning behind awarding Obama the Peace Prize?
BTW I always looking around everywhere, here's a good quote I found on John Scalzi's (kickass sci-fi author) blog:
Quote:
I know I was thinking the same thing. How legitimate is the Nobel prize for someone who really hasnĘt done anything? The interview with some citizens from around the world helped me at least understand why he was given the Nobel prize.
The Bush Administration turned the US into this unilateral decision making entity that ****ed a lot of international bodies/rulers off. The simple fact that Obama wants to work with these nations/rulers/international organizations goes a long way to repair some of that damage. Obama (and therefore America) is now supporting a multilateral decision making process and to other nations that support is significant.
The Nobel Peace prize was given as a carrot/reward for changing America from a decision making body into a member of the international community. They are trying to encourage us to continue in that role.
Am I 100% convinced that he deserved the Nobel Prize at this point? No, but I do think that there is some appreciation for his inclusive approach to trying to solve the worldĘs problems.
Rabid
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:28:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Faekurias on 09/10/2009 21:28:40
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Daedalus II
* Tinfoil hat ON *
Norway is a member of NATO.
When Norway had a choise between american and swedish jet figthers they not only choose the american ones but as an extra insult said the swedish ones were crap.
Norway gives Obama the peace prize.
Obviously they are trying to bribe their way into becoming the 51st state!
You dont need a tinfoil hat to see that the Gripen is a **** fighter compared with the F35. I mean the Saab Gripen is a failed fighter. No on really uses it. They sold some plans to a former Soviet state, and leased one fighter to south Africa.
Only a moron would buy the Gripen.
Czech Republic
Hungary
South Africa
Thailand
Great Britains "Empire Test Pilot School"
^^ Current Users of the JAS GRIPEN
Current ongoing affairs: Brazil, Denmark, India, Romania, Switzerland.
Offers about deals: Bulgaria, Croatia, Netherlands and Great Britains Royal Airforce.
You're just full of hate aren't you?
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:50:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Redflare
Edited by: Redflare on 09/10/2009 21:12:24
Here's a fresh point of view: YOU, somehow, are President.
The Nobel Peace Prize is another boon in your favor when you make decisions. Whatever you do holds just a little more credit.
I agree it's early, but the Nobel Committee essentially awarded the prize for what he CAN do. Obama's job becomes a bit easier.
By this logic every world leader that says they want peace should recieve the prize to make it easier.
A prize is a representation of an acomplishment, not what they can do or make it easier for them to go about that stated goal. Thats what a certificate is for but somehow I dont think Nobel Peace Certificate has the same ring to it.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:55:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Wendat Huron on 09/10/2009 21:56:18
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Daedalus II
* Tinfoil hat ON *
Norway is a member of NATO.
When Norway had a choise between american and swedish jet figthers they not only choose the american ones but as an extra insult said the swedish ones were crap.
Norway gives Obama the peace prize.
Obviously they are trying to bribe their way into becoming the 51st state!
You dont need a tinfoil hat to see that the Gripen is a **** fighter compared with the F35. I mean the Saab Gripen is a failed fighter. No on really uses it. They sold some plans to a former Soviet state, and leased one fighter to south Africa.
Only a moron would buy the Gripen.
Yes because performance has feck all to do with it. Threats has, threats that if the countries doesn't fall into line and buy US products there will be consequences. Also subtle hints that some key componants in the Gripen is american made and can be made scarse if need be, that was Saabs major mistake, relying on components from a competitor state, yes state.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:55:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Redflare
Edited by: Redflare on 09/10/2009 21:12:24
Here's a fresh point of view: YOU, somehow, are President.
The Nobel Peace Prize is another boon in your favor when you make decisions. Whatever you do holds just a little more credit.
I agree it's early, but the Nobel Committee essentially awarded the prize for what he CAN do. Obama's job becomes a bit easier.
It was up to the Nobel Committee in the end. Anyone have actual text of their reasoning behind awarding Obama the Peace Prize?
BTW I always looking around everywhere, here's a good quote I found on John Scalzi's (kickass sci-fi author) blog:
If I were in Obama's shoes I would decline.
The logic being is I say I will wait until the job is done and I accomplish what I wish and then I will accept such an award.
This would give him more points then just accepting the award.
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Nai Ling
Amarr
Middle Finger Technology
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:56:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Maybe they gave it to him to help prevent him from going into Iran.
"Woot, I just won the Nobel Peace Prize"
"Now lets bomb the hell out of Iran"
Slade
I just find it highly fishy that a week after the world found out about Iran's secret nuclear facility 200ft below ground, a bill was rushed through US Congress to build a "Bunker Buster" bomb capable of reaching 200ft below ground...
I dunno... it might just be coincidence. Probably just my tin foil hat.
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Mac Maniac
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.09 22:41:00 -
[66]
<----- American
When I saw this.. I think I choked on my own vomit
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2009.10.09 22:47:00 -
[67]
Originally by: goodby4u
If I were in Obama's shoes I would decline.
The logic being is I say I will wait until the job is done and I accomplish what I wish and then I will accept such an award.
This would give him more points then just accepting the award.
No you wouldn't, you'd be a total narcissist and the temptation to have other people acknowledge how great you are would be too great.
-Jin Nib
Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since:
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.09 22:56:00 -
[68]
Originally by: goodby4u
If I were in Obama's shoes I would decline.
The logic being is I say I will wait until the job is done and I accomplish what I wish and then I will accept such an award.
This would give him more points then just accepting the award.
That would give him infinate points in my book.
The balls it would take to turn down a Nobel Peace Prize 
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
=v= |
goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.09 23:00:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Jin Nib
Originally by: goodby4u
If I were in Obama's shoes I would decline.
The logic being is I say I will wait until the job is done and I accomplish what I wish and then I will accept such an award.
This would give him more points then just accepting the award.
No you wouldn't, you'd be a total narcissist and the temptation to have other people acknowledge how great you are would be too great.
You make false assumptions of my character then, but let's assume I wish to have more power/be employed longer.
Declining the award could lead to some of my fav bills being passed, getting a second term and possibly still get the nobel prize as a result at a later date.
You gain more by declining the prize then accepting it.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2009.10.09 23:21:00 -
[70]
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Jin Nib
Originally by: goodby4u
If I were in Obama's shoes I would decline.
The logic being is I say I will wait until the job is done and I accomplish what I wish and then I will accept such an award.
This would give him more points then just accepting the award.
No you wouldn't, you'd be a total narcissist and the temptation to have other people acknowledge how great you are would be too great.
You make false assumptions of my character then, but let's assume I wish to have more power/be employed longer.
Declining the award could lead to some of my fav bills being passed, getting a second term and possibly still get the nobel prize as a result at a later date.
You gain more by declining the prize then accepting it.
I was worried I'd be misunderstood, but decided to go ahead anyways. The assumptions I wer making were not about your character, but rather what Obama's "shoes" represent. In other words if you were in the same position as Obama, for the same reasons, you would share similar character traits and so forth. Obviously your not Obama, and you don't really seem to to share his narcissism from what I can tell (conversely it also means you would never occupy his shoes, fantasy scenario or not).
I agree that declining the prize could gain him more notoriety then accepting. There are a few problems with that for Obama though, the first being that he would look bad and seem ungrateful, which would be unacceptable. The second being he can pass this off as something that happened to him rather then something he had a hand orchestrating, whereas if he declined it would be on him. Third it would require him to delay his gratification, which I suspect he has trouble doing.
-Jin Nib
Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since:
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Captain Hudson
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.10.09 23:27:00 -
[71]
April's fool's has been and gone, their calenders must be ****ed
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Redflare
Caldari
Lompoc-Amish Industrial Labs
SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2009.10.10 01:14:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Redflare
Edited by: Redflare on 09/10/2009 21:12:24
Here's a fresh point of view: YOU, somehow, are President.
The Nobel Peace Prize is another boon in your favor when you make decisions. Whatever you do holds just a little more credit.
I agree it's early, but the Nobel Committee essentially awarded the prize for what he CAN do. Obama's job becomes a bit easier.
By this logic every world leader that says they want peace should recieve the prize to make it easier.
A prize is a representation of an acomplishment, not what they can do or make it easier for them to go about that stated goal. Thats what a certificate is for but somehow I dont think Nobel Peace Certificate has the same ring to it.
The prize is not always given for accomplisments. Case in Point: Arafat (did I spell his name right?). Tell me ONE thing he has done to get the Nobel Peace Prize, before, or after.
Another thing, you say: By this logic, every world leader that says they want peace shoudl recieve the prize to make it easier.
They are not Presidents of the United States, they're leaders of the U.K., France, South Africa, Brazil. Smaller entities. Not every world leader has command of the combined resources of the United States. No, not even European countries have such an amount of power vested in the hands of a single person. Granted, Obama does not have dictatorial power over everything, but the Peace Prize lends further credibility to what he aims to do, whether it fall under foreign or domestic affairs.
And tell me how the peace prize is going to hurt his chances at doing that.
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karma militia
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Posted - 2009.10.10 01:29:00 -
[73]
Well to be fair
I think obama had some role in organizing charity initiatives before he was president. Although, he got paid well for it i think. No time to google it.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.10.10 01:53:00 -
[74]
i think he's done some really great things on the international stage, so yeah, props to him.
now if we could just do something with this ****box of a country we've made for ourselves
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.10.10 10:56:00 -
[75]
I agree that some of the Obama bashing is justified. But come on, he's not that bad to deserve a prize that ****** was only nominated for in 1939...
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.10 11:21:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Yes because performance has feck all to do with it. Threats has, threats that if the countries doesn't fall into line and buy US products there will be consequences. Also subtle hints that some key componants in the Gripen is american made and can be made scarse if need be, that was Saabs major mistake, relying on components from a competitor state, yes state.
Oh great, more conspiracy theories Remind me again why not even the Swedish air force wants to buy the gripen NG.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.10 11:27:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Faekurias on 10/10/2009 11:27:11
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Yes because performance has feck all to do with it. Threats has, threats that if the countries doesn't fall into line and buy US products there will be consequences. Also subtle hints that some key componants in the Gripen is american made and can be made scarse if need be, that was Saabs major mistake, relying on components from a competitor state, yes state.
Oh great, more conspiracy theories Remind me again why not even the Swedish air force wants to buy the gripen NG.
Gripen NG Isn't done yet, the current newest fully operational gripens are the 39 C/D.
They are using Gripen DEMO (A version of the potential final version of NG ) for demonstrational purposes.
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Bodrul
Caldari
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.10.10 11:43:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Congratulations to president Obama.
as much as i think the americans did something right in 8 years by electing Obama
what peace has he brokerd in the last few months? heck he hasnt even been in office a year.
they could atleast wait untill hes done something major.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.10.10 12:20:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 10/10/2009 12:27:06
Originally by: Bodrul
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Congratulations to president Obama.
as much as i think the americans did something right in 8 years by electing Obama
what peace has he brokerd in the last few months? heck he hasnt even been in office a year.
they could atleast wait untill hes done something major.
You have two kinds of Americans. Neither know what's going on. One kind thinks Obama is their savior and fails to see the ******-like cult of personality around him. This is 1930 level stuff. The other faction is all about blaming Obama for everything and fail to realize that it's not about the left-right or liberal-conservative. These are false paradigms to have us fighting each other while the real criminals continue to loot the country.
Those who are not brainwashed sheep (not by CNN/MSNBC nor by the Fox News O'Hannitybaugh Nexus) see Obama's term as "Bush's Third Term".
Because his policies, though some parts under new labels, are basically the same.
This is the way it works: in 2000, people were really sick of Clinton and his "nation building". Other parts of his agenda could not go forward because he lacked credibility. Just in time, he had only two terms, the limit.
So George W Bush was ordained to be the new president. And ALL of those "conservatives" who fought Clintonism for 8 years went to sleep.
And after 8 years of Bush, people were really sick and tired of that crap too.
So they wanted "hope and change" and thought they get that from Obama. But it's on record, stuff you cannot make up, that his foreign policy is almost exact to that of Bush.
But where is the anti-war movement now?
They went to sleep.
And that's the idea.
And the agenda of the real bosses, that both parties work for, continues on, while people, being sheep, fight each other.
I think this man explains it better than I ever could.
"Democracy" can go on the same scrap heap as all the other systems. It failed. People are too stupid. Every warning from the men who wrote the Constitution was not heeded, everything they said could happen is happening now. And the people just sheep sheep sheeple along. All that flouride and prozac.
This is why I like this game. People who expect things for free, or have a sense of entitlement, usually can't handle this game. In the real world, there are people who expect someone elses money, their property, and their labor.
THIS will not end well.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.10 12:47:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
You have two kinds of Americans
Three types. You forgot Ron Paul voters.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.10.10 15:02:00 -
[81]
The ones who vote for Kang
The ones who vote for Kodos
The ones who cant vote at all.
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evil fascist
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Posted - 2009.10.10 21:16:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
You have two kinds of Americans
Three types. You forgot Ron Paul voters.
how are the Ron Paul voters?
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Havohej
Minmatar
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.10 22:12:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
Being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize means nothing? What, they have no standards in the nomination process?
I can confirm this. I'm nominated every time, I just never win because I never actually do anything.
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Zedic
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Posted - 2009.10.10 23:13:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o
Well Said. Very well said.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.10 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Yes because performance has feck all to do with it. Threats has, threats that if the countries doesn't fall into line and buy US products there will be consequences. Also subtle hints that some key componants in the Gripen is american made and can be made scarse if need be, that was Saabs major mistake, relying on components from a competitor state, yes state.
Oh great, more conspiracy theories Remind me again why not even the Swedish air force wants to buy the gripen NG.
Quite simple really, they got no money to buy any.
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ceyriot
Carebear Educational Services
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Posted - 2009.10.11 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
I would just like to thank the eve community for seeing how insanely stupid it is to award Obama the Peace Prize. I was beginning to feel like the last sane man.
Remind yourself you play Eve, not WoW.
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MaxxOmega
Caldari
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.10.11 01:41:00 -
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I had to work harder to get my Masterbation Papers...
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Dramaan
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Posted - 2009.10.11 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dramaan on 11/10/2009 02:37:24
Why did my country ****ed up obce more I do not why but shall not go peace price go to some one deceriving it. By the way we need war keep population at bay that may why he win.  ( note I am serious when keep population on bay if it was to much people we have a serous problem we can't have to much in the world) or we die by killing animals we need for life.) We need more animals at the moment.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.10.11 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Being nominated at a certain point means nothing. They had plenty of time to see if he was worthy of the award. He was.
Being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize means nothing? What, they have no standards in the nomination process?
I can confirm this. I'm nominated every time, I just never win because I never actually do anything.
An evil Fraciontist getting the Peace Prize?! Well why not, you guys are in less wars than America.
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Redflare
Caldari
Lompoc-Amish Industrial Labs
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Posted - 2009.10.11 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Redflare on 11/10/2009 06:16:55
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 10/10/2009 12:27:06
Originally by: Bodrul
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Congratulations to president Obama.
as much as i think the americans did something right in 8 years by electing Obama
what peace has he brokerd in the last few months? heck he hasnt even been in office a year.
they could atleast wait untill hes done something major.
*A lot of horse *****
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act? Plenty of THESEare being sponsored by that. Bush did start something similar, endorsing education to make nano-scale atomic bombs. But, hey, these 47 multi-million dollar, state-of-the-art research facilities just can't compare to anything else in the world, can they?
One of his first Executive Orders concerned lobbyists I think.
I can go on and on. The point is, there is a third kind of American: the pompous and ignorant, self-proclaimed guardian of sense and sanity that you are, taking everything pessimistically and seeing things in black and white.
Face it, no one's perfect, and regardless no one can appease everybody. You just happen to fall under the unappeasable category. Are you going to see it as politics as usual, with Republicans suddenly becoming Anti-War and the Democrats suddenly becoming another generation of warhawks because Obama said we're going to stay in Afghanistan, or are you going to look at it with a bit of sense and realize it's a way to salvage something out of 8 years and who knows how many trillions of dollars invested in the middle east for who knows who's interested (Here's a hint: Cheney's associates won big, Bush's associates won big, Oil took the jackpot, the military-industrial complex expanded as never before, but also, our military without a doubt is significantly better prepared for any other military action than it was before).
He may not have done anything in particular that has revolutionized the world, but hell, he's got a lot more potential to bring a sense of "peace" to parts of the world. More importantly, he has the capacity and resources of the United States to do it with.
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Wolfie276
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Posted - 2009.10.11 07:54:00 -
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Edited by: Wolfie276 on 11/10/2009 07:55:28
*pukes*
what the hell did he do for this? talking? oh well..
im a norwegian and im not particulary proud
tricking ppl with talk -_-
allthough he did not think he deserved it.
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Dramund
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Posted - 2009.10.11 11:16:00 -
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To be fair, they usually have a pretty pathetic list of people who are eligible for the Nobel Peace Prize, it just doesn't make the front page. It's not often a single person actually furthers the cause of world peace. And we are talking about the leader of the free world who called Kanye West a jackass. That has to mean something.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.11 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o
Well Said. Very well said.
That was great, and summed it up nicely. Pity the ignorant doesnt see this.
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Zedic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o
Well Said. Very well said.
That was great, and summed it up nicely. Pity the ignorant doesnt see this.
Pity those that "aren't ignorant" don't see this First 9 months
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Redflare
Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Redflare
Edited by: Redflare on 09/10/2009 21:12:24
Here's a fresh point of view: YOU, somehow, are President.
The Nobel Peace Prize is another boon in your favor when you make decisions. Whatever you do holds just a little more credit.
I agree it's early, but the Nobel Committee essentially awarded the prize for what he CAN do. Obama's job becomes a bit easier.
By this logic every world leader that says they want peace should recieve the prize to make it easier.
A prize is a representation of an acomplishment, not what they can do or make it easier for them to go about that stated goal. Thats what a certificate is for but somehow I dont think Nobel Peace Certificate has the same ring to it.
The prize is not always given for accomplisments. Case in Point: Arafat (did I spell his name right?). Tell me ONE thing he has done to get the Nobel Peace Prize, before, or after.
Another thing, you say: By this logic, every world leader that says they want peace shoudl recieve the prize to make it easier.
They are not Presidents of the United States, they're leaders of the U.K., France, South Africa, Brazil. Smaller entities. Not every world leader has command of the combined resources of the United States. No, not even European countries have such an amount of power vested in the hands of a single person. Granted, Obama does not have dictatorial power over everything, but the Peace Prize lends further credibility to what he aims to do, whether it fall under foreign or domestic affairs.
And tell me how the peace prize is going to hurt his chances at doing that.
So then because hes the president of the united states, didnt really do anything in the space between taking office and the cut off date and so forth, he should be awarded a peace prize to make it easier? Im sorry but thats just bull****.
Let me ask you this, given that its public knowledge that he hasnt done anything noteworthy to obtain the goal other than being in the right place at the right time how much influence do you think he'll actually have in brokering peace?
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zedic on 11/10/2009 17:25:58
Jimmy Carter never did get Peace in the Middle East, but he worked for it.
Nelson Mandela hadn't ended apartheid at the time he got the award, but he was working towards that goal.
Aung San Suu Kyi didn't stop the Burmese military's oppression of her people - but she worked towards that goal.
The Nobel Peace Prize is not about finishing a "job" or a accomplishing a task. It never has been.
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Orion Eridanus
Dakota HeadHunters
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
Edited by: Zedic on 11/10/2009 17:25:58
Jimmy Carter never did get Peace in the Middle East, but he worked for it.
Nelson Mandela hadn't ended apartheid at the time he got the award, but he was working towards that goal.
Aung San Suu Kyi didn't stop the Burmese military's oppression of her people - but she worked towards that goal.
The Nobel Peace Prize is not about finishing a "job" or a accomplishing a task. It never has been.
Sure they hadn't accomplished what they started at the time when they were awarded it, but they did start. What has Obama started? There's a difference between doing nothing and actually starting something but not finishing.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Ethan Hunte
Ninjas With Frikkin StarShips
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:53:00 -
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so before he became president he didn't get this award.
after he became president he got it.
therefore the criteria was, being elected.
this prize like is said, means nothing now. and has not meant anything for some time.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari
Vale Tudo.
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Posted - 2009.10.13 10:49:00 -
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Nobel Prize for peace lost its credibility when Marti Ahtisaari got it...
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