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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.28 22:07:00 -
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aimed at eternal so please anyone else avoid flaming this.
You claim CLS are cowards yet you are very much ignorant in this matter.
are we cowards because we used frigates? i sure hope this wasnt what you was saying after all CA when they use frigs which is quite often claim its a tactic no?
CLS are cowards for hiring mercs? why ? CLS is a mixed corp while votf is a pvp corp while CLS can field prob 60 guys in a pvp fleet only 15 or 20 would be in bs's for CLS pilots are no where near as experienced in pvp or skill points wise? A coward would have hired mercs and been secretive about it like probably 90% of BDCI/sharks employers in the past. CLS openly admitted it that takes balls. CLS is fighting CA in curse space , CLS majority of pvp'ers is in 0.0 space you could argue that CLS should call back pvp'ers to fight votf in empire but why when you can do a MO for 1 or 2 days and pay bdci and sharks to do it while CLS keeps forces in xetic space or CA space. CLS pvp'ers were fighting CA just because it wasnt you in empire that doesnt make CLS cowards..... on similar argument you could call votf cowards for going after CLS empire guy not there pvp'ers in 0.0 space? Please im not gonna rant about and i dont want to flame you i just wanted clarification of how you come to the conclusion CLS are cowards when you yourselves bought MF contract out aswell.
Also as pointed out CLS had 7 wars on them at time you declared wars and upto 9 at one point during it. 4 of which were CA corps.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.28 22:07:00 -
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aimed at eternal so please anyone else avoid flaming this.
You claim CLS are cowards yet you are very much ignorant in this matter.
are we cowards because we used frigates? i sure hope this wasnt what you was saying after all CA when they use frigs which is quite often claim its a tactic no?
CLS are cowards for hiring mercs? why ? CLS is a mixed corp while votf is a pvp corp while CLS can field prob 60 guys in a pvp fleet only 15 or 20 would be in bs's for CLS pilots are no where near as experienced in pvp or skill points wise? A coward would have hired mercs and been secretive about it like probably 90% of BDCI/sharks employers in the past. CLS openly admitted it that takes balls. CLS is fighting CA in curse space , CLS majority of pvp'ers is in 0.0 space you could argue that CLS should call back pvp'ers to fight votf in empire but why when you can do a MO for 1 or 2 days and pay bdci and sharks to do it while CLS keeps forces in xetic space or CA space. CLS pvp'ers were fighting CA just because it wasnt you in empire that doesnt make CLS cowards..... on similar argument you could call votf cowards for going after CLS empire guy not there pvp'ers in 0.0 space? Please im not gonna rant about and i dont want to flame you i just wanted clarification of how you come to the conclusion CLS are cowards when you yourselves bought MF contract out aswell.
Also as pointed out CLS had 7 wars on them at time you declared wars and upto 9 at one point during it. 4 of which were CA corps.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.28 22:15:00 -
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Wasnt danks scorp replaced by ccp due to bug loss.. but that may have been someone elses ship.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.28 22:15:00 -
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Wasnt danks scorp replaced by ccp due to bug loss.. but that may have been someone elses ship.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.28 22:29:00 -
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YAY just finished downloading movie, was quite entertaining the stroy tellin was rather inaccurate but cant expect em to get that right since they couldnt see the chat channels we were in :) other than that a good movie with some good fight shots in it.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.28 22:29:00 -
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YAY just finished downloading movie, was quite entertaining the stroy tellin was rather inaccurate but cant expect em to get that right since they couldnt see the chat channels we were in :) other than that a good movie with some good fight shots in it.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:28:00 -
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HAHAHA eternal type what ya like i know your ignorant and i dont care what others in the eve world think i only wanted to know where you got your ideas from. And the majority of our pvp'ers dont use corp chat so the way you assume your right without much info is quite funny. Congrats on copying a convo of a few agent runners thou :) and why would non pvp'ers want to go to yulai/orvolle area if they are NON pvp'ers!!
BDCI were hired to stop CLS casualties in empire, that doesnt require killing votf only keeping votf from killing CLS ships that doesnt include frigs or cruisers as they r easily replaced. The only BS i believe CLS during the war was due to a rather silly member of cls losing their ship to votf with nothin bdci could have done to stop so they did they job very well. Bdci didnt jump into pf-346 that day because MF had alot of other war victims and bdci arnt interested in gettin involved in those wars aswell it made jumpin into pf-346 1 risky and 2 not meet their contract requirements. This was explained to MF and they threw there dolly out their pram because votf just killed their ships 10minutes before hand.
Nice job bdci and sharks
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:28:00 -
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HAHAHA eternal type what ya like i know your ignorant and i dont care what others in the eve world think i only wanted to know where you got your ideas from. And the majority of our pvp'ers dont use corp chat so the way you assume your right without much info is quite funny. Congrats on copying a convo of a few agent runners thou :) and why would non pvp'ers want to go to yulai/orvolle area if they are NON pvp'ers!!
BDCI were hired to stop CLS casualties in empire, that doesnt require killing votf only keeping votf from killing CLS ships that doesnt include frigs or cruisers as they r easily replaced. The only BS i believe CLS during the war was due to a rather silly member of cls losing their ship to votf with nothin bdci could have done to stop so they did they job very well. Bdci didnt jump into pf-346 that day because MF had alot of other war victims and bdci arnt interested in gettin involved in those wars aswell it made jumpin into pf-346 1 risky and 2 not meet their contract requirements. This was explained to MF and they threw there dolly out their pram because votf just killed their ships 10minutes before hand.
Nice job bdci and sharks
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.29 17:51:00 -
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CLS hasnt called votf cowards we have only defended our selves from CA's inaccurate accusations. CLS respected votf as being a very competant pvp corp we only feel votf likes making up stuff they may think is true but frankly isnt. the comment was made that some of the movies writings were not true.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.29 17:51:00 -
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CLS hasnt called votf cowards we have only defended our selves from CA's inaccurate accusations. CLS respected votf as being a very competant pvp corp we only feel votf likes making up stuff they may think is true but frankly isnt. the comment was made that some of the movies writings were not true.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.29 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Eleese on 29/10/2004 21:19:55 Eternal to say you dont like us or dont respect us is fine thats your opinion but to call us cowards is not true. We are not pvp corp like votf therefore we have members who dislike and dont want to pvp not all of eve is pvp after all if it was no one would have ships or money to pvp. Your evidence has come from non pvp'ers within CLS. CLS doesnt claim to be an uber pvp force like votf (not saying votf arnt good pvp'ers because you are) CLS infact claims to be carebears :) but we certainly are not cowards and that is what we are defending people who want to pvp within cls actively attack CA in your space and our own. You must have seen the omega corp video were they fight cls , we may have lost but we certainly did fight. You have experienced are empire folks which while does have some pvp'ers such as those who bravely suicidal frigate which fought you empire also has alot of empire runners, builders, r&d guys etc judging CLS as a whole corp by there words is a wrongful interpretation of CLS aims. They are not cowards for avoiding combat, they just dont enjoy that style of gameplay.
EDIT: on another note bout CLS member sending you convo's and eve mail im sure cls leadership doesnt condone this and if you send logs/copies to cyvok when he back from the eve gathering thing in iceland im sure he'll look over them. But votf started the flaming stuff on our own website even after cyvok very complimentary news report of the war.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.10.29 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Eleese on 29/10/2004 21:19:55 Eternal to say you dont like us or dont respect us is fine thats your opinion but to call us cowards is not true. We are not pvp corp like votf therefore we have members who dislike and dont want to pvp not all of eve is pvp after all if it was no one would have ships or money to pvp. Your evidence has come from non pvp'ers within CLS. CLS doesnt claim to be an uber pvp force like votf (not saying votf arnt good pvp'ers because you are) CLS infact claims to be carebears :) but we certainly are not cowards and that is what we are defending people who want to pvp within cls actively attack CA in your space and our own. You must have seen the omega corp video were they fight cls , we may have lost but we certainly did fight. You have experienced are empire folks which while does have some pvp'ers such as those who bravely suicidal frigate which fought you empire also has alot of empire runners, builders, r&d guys etc judging CLS as a whole corp by there words is a wrongful interpretation of CLS aims. They are not cowards for avoiding combat, they just dont enjoy that style of gameplay.
EDIT: on another note bout CLS member sending you convo's and eve mail im sure cls leadership doesnt condone this and if you send logs/copies to cyvok when he back from the eve gathering thing in iceland im sure he'll look over them. But votf started the flaming stuff on our own website even after cyvok very complimentary news report of the war.
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