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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:24:00 -
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Jita Direct Sale (JIDSALE) is the third option for trading in Jita. Manufacturers and traders coming to Jita now have the opportunity to sell to us at a more favorable price - between the sell order and buy order market price.
Well, I have been nurturing the Jidsale brand for more than a month now, and it has taught me valuable lessons. Now I have a solid clientel and a streamlined business model, and I believe I am now in a position where I can invite others to trade under the JIDSALE umbrella. I am therefore looking for the following partners:
1) Jita Junior Partner. This is for a new trader!! interested in station trading, and not afraid of spending time in Jita. I would like to divide the orders that are below c. 20-50 million from larger ones - there is definitely a good niche for smaller transactions that could be exploited. If this has your interest, send me an evemail presenting yourself, including your trading experience, daily EVE schedule, and current level of finances.
2) Satellites. Any person already doing well in station trading in other hubs, e.g. Rens, Amarr, Dodixie, is welcome to join the JIDSALE brand. I will share my experiences regarding how to get customers and how to pick items that are lucrative for this way of trading. Send an evemail application presenting yourself, including your location, trading habits and level of funds.
Partnership requires that you join the corp. The partnerships will not require any sharing of funds.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:14:00 -
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You haven't even stated what's in for traders.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson You haven't even stated what's in for traders.
"What's in for traders" - I'm not sure what you mean there, but what my corp does is buy products directly from manufacturers and region traders and sell it on sell orders. I am inviting partners to do the same under the JIDSALE banner, supported by the brand and benefiting from my advertising and trading experience.
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Eve NewEden
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2 supported by the brand and benefiting from my advertising
How does "the brand" and advertising help when using sell orders? I always buy from "the cheapest at this location" brand.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Eve NewEden How does "the brand" and advertising help when using sell orders?
It doesn't, it helps you avoid buy orders, get stuff directly from clients and concentrate on selling :)
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:08:00 -
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What I meant is why would I want to trade under the brand of J.D.S.? Why would I want to trade for you guys when it's more profitable to do it myself?
Your OP is nothing more than a fancy version of "Hey guyz, wanna trade for me?!"
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Roguehalo
Caldari RH Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:14:00 -
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"Well, I have been nurturing the Jidsale brand for more than a month now, and it has taught me valuable lessons. Now I have a solid clientel and a streamlined business model, and I believe I am now in a position where I can invite others to trade under the JIDSALE umbrella."
Do you think you could persuade some of your 'solid clientele' to post here and explain how it works from their end?
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 11/10/2009 19:23:49
Originally by: Brock Nelson Your OP is nothing more than a fancy version of "Hey guyz, wanna trade for me?!"
Maybe I was somehow vague in my OP? However, I am not hiring people to work for me. There will be no monetary transactions between myself and new JIDSALE members. If others find the business model I have developed interesting, they now have the option to emulate it elsewhere, drawing on my experiences, under the JIDSALE name.
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SetrakDark
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2 Maybe I was somehow vague in my OP? ( I added a bit of info to second paragraph of OP)
I had no problem understanding the original post; and I don't see how someone who read the post could have a "problem" with it. You're inviting people to use a specific method of trading under a brand name.
I don't get why everyone who pops their head up on MD needs to be hammered down...
Good luck with your business.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark Good luck with your business.
Thank you very much. I do not hammer down easily.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2009.10.11 20:24:00 -
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I also thought the OP was pretty clear. The only thing I find questionable about this is how little apparent benefit accrues to Cista. Ok, the regional satellites will broadcast the brand name and you'll hold on to the juiciest hub but is there anything to stop these people rebranding and competing with you in Jita once they have the model and contacts?
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OwlManAtt
Gallente Yasashii Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.11 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2 Maybe I was somehow vague in my OP?
Indeed; that pitch was lacking in information. I know what JIDSALE is because I've been reading your threads since you showed up, but I can see anybody who hasn't read them to not understand what you're talking about in the OP.
You should probably have linked to that old thread where you explained how JIDSALE works. Or something.
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Cistura Mellaores
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Posted - 2009.10.13 12:23:00 -
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I've been following your posts over the past month and I'm interested in joining your corporation, I'll send you an eve-mail when I get home tonight, I currently have >1bil to play around with and I'm based in Dodixie.
Cistura
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Gehnster
Gallente Boundless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.10.13 14:17:00 -
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There are some good points made. Why would someone want to sell their items under the JIDSALE name when they can just as easily find their own contacts or join your corp to get to yours and then start their own corp and do what you do but at a tighter margin?
Even more so for the satellites. Do you have contacts in other markets already? Else there would be no reason to join up with you. Just a friendly observation.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.13 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gehnster Why would someone want to sell their items under the JIDSALE name when they can just as easily find their own contacts ...etc
Yes, anybody can do it - however, nobody is doing it because it's really not that easy. Can you name someone who is doing it? I've been running this shop for some time now, and if someone think they would have a go at it, I can help them.
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A Runner
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Posted - 2009.10.16 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cistura Mellaores I've been following your posts over the past month and I'm interested in joining your corporation, I'll send you an eve-mail when I get home tonight, I currently have >1bil to play around with and I'm based in Dodixie.
Cistura
I really like how closely your name resembles Cista2 and Sista2 (from the previous thread.) Very considerate of you to be the first positive comment left on this thread.
But I digress. If I was interested in joining this corp, do I have to make an alt named along the lines of Sista. I suppose I can make one named Sista3
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.16 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Gehnster Why would someone want to sell their items under the JIDSALE name when they can just as easily find their own contacts ...etc
Yes, anybody can do it - however, nobody is doing it because it's really not that easy. Can you name someone who is doing it? I've been running this shop for some time now, and if someone think they would have a go at it, I can help them.
Yeah it's easy, just spam your business everywhere for a month and then call it a brand.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.16 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: A Runner I really like how closely your name resembles Cista2 and Sista2 (from the previous thread.)
That is pretty funny actually.
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Anyhoo, Another type of non-formal partnership would be for regional traders flying out of Jita to buy into my stocks. Since I always have stocks that I got cheaper than Jita sell orders, and I never check prices anywhere else, you could find it profitable. Feel free to contact me for lists.
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Cistura Mellaores
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Posted - 2009.10.16 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: A Runner I really like how closely your name resembles Cista2 and Sista2 (from the previous thread.) Very considerate of you to be the first positive comment left on this thread.
But I digress. If I was interested in joining this corp, do I have to make an alt named along the lines of Sista. I suppose I can make one named Sista3
Lol. I hadn't realised how similar our names where until you pointed it out, I award you a free +1 basic perception implant for being a good little forum goer. Seriously though I'm not her alt, I can't difinitevely prove this ofc on the forums but if you log in you'll not this character was made in April '09 iirc - 4 months or so before Cista2 + co were made (some of us do our research before considering a partnership). Given the youth of Cista's character I respect the fact that she/they *may* be an alt of another EVE player who has affilitions which would inconvenience a trader - member of a 0.0 alliance etc and am happy to do business with her provided everything is above board and we can both make some nice ISK from it.
Cistura.
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Mordou
Mordou Manufacturing and Trade
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Posted - 2009.10.16 20:12:00 -
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What's in it for you?
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.17 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mordou What's in it for you?
This is quite simple really (from my point of view at least)
Sista can't be online 23/7 - this will allow time zone spread. This will allow people to trade exclusively with JDS. Then, if one day, Sista is on earlier / later, or that person is on earlier / later - boom, an extra trade at no cost or effort to Sista. While in it's current state this isn't likely to be a great help, from reading her posts, I assume the OP hopes JDS will one day do thousands of trades a day - then it will be massive help. Likewise, current traders who log in a bit late on day will still have a JDS salesperson to trade with.
TL;DR More ability to pick up repeat clientele, less chance to lose them.
Depending on how it's worked, this would also allow Sista to 'push off' the less profitable, slower moving or more risky deals to other traders. Though that's not something I'd say for sure, just a little something that COULD evolve out of it.
I'd also go a little further and say Sista is hoping (is that 1 p or 2? Serious question, I never know) that JDS will take on something of a business aspect - aka, have an RP element. Basically, this looks cooler. -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.17 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Signore Kaeota
Originally by: Mordou lyrical waxing
You said it very well, would you like to become an alt of mine? (Yes, Cista2 an Sistar2 is the same person, third alt is called CistaCista).
The geographical branching is also very important. A regional insta-trader should ideally be able to trade goods between the major hubs and sell to us every time.
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.17 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Signore Kaeota lyrical waxing
You said it very well, would you like to become an alt of mine?
I lol'd so very much. Yes, I'd love to become an alt! you'd have to pay the transfer fee though :P -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.23 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 23/10/2009 08:44:00
Update We are beginning to develop the Jidsale activities across regions:
Jita - There are 2 Jidsale operatives in Jita now: myself and Eeqo Soveern. Eego takes most new clients atm. Rens - we now have our associate Nuvion Cro ready to buy your goods here Amarr û my alt CistaCista is there Dodixie û my alt Sistar2 is on her way there
So, in all these hubs manufacturers can now sell their goods directly to us, at higher than market buy order prices.
- and we are still very interested in recruiting more traders that wish to avoid the burden of buy orders! IÆd much rather have real associates than my alts stationed in the hubs.
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NuVioN cro
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.23 08:43:00 -
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Just to say hello, I am JIDSALE's partner traider stationed in Rens. Drop in at any time.
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