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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:23:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:RubyPorto wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Disregard That wrote:Doesn't VMWare allow like dozens of Windows installs to run concurrently on a single machine?
Last I checked, VMWare doesn't have the graphics capability/support to run the Eve client. Now, if someone managed to lay hands on the dev load simulator client... VMWare Fusion under OS X does, so I don't see why Workstation under Windows wouldn't. Heck, If Transgaming can make a virtual machine with the capability to run EvE (they can, it's called the Mac Client), VMWare certainly can. Transgaming is terrible. Isn't transgaming wine for mac? In which case, it isn't a vm.
It's Cider, based off Cedega and I've never been quite clear on the distinction between Wine/Cedega and a VM. From what I understand it's basically a bare bones OS that wraps the game?
Funnily, VMWare runs the Windows EvE client better than the Mac Client runs on the same Mac. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Luis Graca
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:23:00 -
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On the bright side you would have any costs, even ammo On the down side it does worth the job of creating 100 trial accounts On the weird side: if 100 guys create 1 account each if would get really ........ weird CCP SUCKS |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:44:00 -
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@OP, make a bunch of 51d Heroes, get Tornados, and do something AMAZING.
With a full rack of +4s, the following training plan gives you three days to work with, which should be just enough.
Go Suicide Gank a POS. Many Tornadoes will be lost in the great, POSaGeddon, but your name will live on in EvE's Glorious History.
Skill plan for Blanky
***Remapping (active) : i27 p17 c17 w17 m21*** Science I Science II Science III Cybernetics I Cybernetics II Cybernetics III Cybernetics IV Electronics I Signature Analysis I Signature Analysis II Signature Analysis III Signature Analysis IV Electronics II Electronics III Electronics IV Engineering I Engineering II Engineering III Engineering IV Mechanics I Mechanics II Mechanics III Jury Rigging I Jury Rigging II Jury Rigging III Projectile Weapon Rigging I Projectile Weapon Rigging II Projectile Weapon Rigging III ***Remapping (active) : i17 p27 c17 w21 m17*** Spaceship Command I Spaceship Command II Spaceship Command III Minmatar Frigate I Minmatar Frigate II Minmatar Frigate III Minmatar Frigate IV Minmatar Cruiser I Minmatar Cruiser II Minmatar Cruiser III Spaceship Command IV Battlecruisers I Battlecruisers II Battlecruisers III Battlecruisers IV Gunnery I Gunnery II Gunnery III Gunnery IV Gunnery V Weapon Upgrades I Weapon Upgrades II Weapon Upgrades III Weapon Upgrades IV Surgical Strike I Surgical Strike II Surgical Strike III Surgical Strike IV Sharpshooter I Sharpshooter II Sharpshooter III Sharpshooter IV Rapid Firing I Rapid Firing II Rapid Firing III Rapid Firing IV Rapid Firing V Motion Prediction I Motion Prediction II Motion Prediction III Motion Prediction IV Small Projectile Turret I Small Projectile Turret II Small Projectile Turret III Medium Projectile Turret I Medium Projectile Turret II Medium Projectile Turret III Large Projectile Turret I Large Projectile Turret II Large Projectile Turret III Large Projectile Turret IV Surgical Strike V
Total time: 57 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes, 46 seconds
Many Bothans died to bring you this skill plan. Many more shall perish to achieve the killmail. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:54:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:@OP, make a bunch of 51d Heroes, get Tornados, and do something AMAZING.
With a full rack of +4s, the following training plan gives you three days to work with, which should be just enough.
Go Suicide Gank a POS. Many Tornadoes will be lost in the great, POSaGeddon, but your name will live on in EvE's Glorious History.
Skill plan for Blanky
***Remapping (active) : i27 p17 c17 w17 m21*** Science I Science II Science III Cybernetics I Cybernetics II Cybernetics III Cybernetics IV Electronics I Signature Analysis I Signature Analysis II Signature Analysis III Signature Analysis IV Electronics II Electronics III Electronics IV Engineering I Engineering II Engineering III Engineering IV Mechanics I Mechanics II Mechanics III Jury Rigging I Jury Rigging II Jury Rigging III Projectile Weapon Rigging I Projectile Weapon Rigging II Projectile Weapon Rigging III ***Remapping (active) : i17 p27 c17 w21 m17*** Spaceship Command I Spaceship Command II Spaceship Command III Minmatar Frigate I Minmatar Frigate II Minmatar Frigate III Minmatar Frigate IV Minmatar Cruiser I Minmatar Cruiser II Minmatar Cruiser III Spaceship Command IV Battlecruisers I Battlecruisers II Battlecruisers III Battlecruisers IV Gunnery I Gunnery II Gunnery III Gunnery IV Gunnery V Weapon Upgrades I Weapon Upgrades II Weapon Upgrades III Weapon Upgrades IV Surgical Strike I Surgical Strike II Surgical Strike III Surgical Strike IV Sharpshooter I Sharpshooter II Sharpshooter III Sharpshooter IV Rapid Firing I Rapid Firing II Rapid Firing III Rapid Firing IV Rapid Firing V Motion Prediction I Motion Prediction II Motion Prediction III Motion Prediction IV Small Projectile Turret I Small Projectile Turret II Small Projectile Turret III Medium Projectile Turret I Medium Projectile Turret II Medium Projectile Turret III Large Projectile Turret I Large Projectile Turret II Large Projectile Turret III Large Projectile Turret IV Surgical Strike V
Total time: 57 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes, 46 seconds
Many Bothans died to bring you this skill plan. Many more shall perish to achieve the killmail.
You can drop some of the LVL 5s to shave it fully into the 51day period too. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:03:00 -
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Welllll, I'm fairly sure CCP will not like you doing this. Using any software to bypass the one trial account per user will most certainly be frowned upon. Also I'm sure they would treat the creation of 100 alts the same as they would treat people recycling alts
Finally you have the in-game hurdle of actually killing the pos with very low SP chars. Remember you need to have enough range to hit the tower from outside the shields, that is gonna preclude almost all frigs and most short-range cruiser weapons. Have fun trying to kill a pos with a bunch of t1 rail thorax. There should be a rather awesome pic here |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:09:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:RubyPorto wrote:@OP, make a bunch of 51d Heroes, get Tornados, and do something AMAZING.
With a full rack of +4s, the following training plan gives you three days to work with, which should be just enough.
Go Suicide Gank a POS. Many Tornadoes will be lost in the great, POSaGeddon, but your name will live on in EvE's Glorious History.
Skill plan for Blanky
Total time: 57 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes, 46 seconds
Many Bothans died to bring you this skill plan. Many more shall perish to achieve the killmail. You can drop some of the LVL 5s to shave it fully into the 51day period too.
With 80m in +4s, it fits with 3 days to spare. Those +5s will save more than 80m worth of Tornados as you pound down the 58 million EHP of an Unresisted Caldari Large POS, 10,000 EHP at a time. When you're going to need 5,800 volleys, you're going to want to save every penny you can on Tornados. I suggest a dedicated Noctis. And implants.
5800 volleys, 2 per tornado, 80m/tornado, total cost: 232 Billion Isk.
Less Epic at 14.5m total HP is the Small Caldari POS which will only cost around 51b to gank.
Assuming 100 people, the large will take 6h45m to gank with everyone going every 15m. Small would take about 1h45m.
*All numbers are rough totals spread over pre and post RF timer ganks. I'm ignoring recharge because :effort: This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:10:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote: Finally you have the in-game hurdle of actually killing the pos with very low SP chars. Remember you need to have enough range to hit the tower from outside the shields, that is gonna preclude almost all frigs and most short-range cruiser weapons. Have fun trying to kill a pos with a bunch of t1 rail thorax.
Read the skill plan. You're getting near max-spec T1 Gank Tornados here. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Mist Runner
Beyond Recognition
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:27:00 -
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Killmail or it didnt happen. Oh wait it didnt happen. Nevermind |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:36:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote: Finally you have the in-game hurdle of actually killing the pos with very low SP chars. Remember you need to have enough range to hit the tower from outside the shields, that is gonna preclude almost all frigs and most short-range cruiser weapons. Have fun trying to kill a pos with a bunch of t1 rail thorax.
Read the skill plan. You're getting near max-spec T1 Gank Tornados here. Um, I wasn't commenting on your ridiculous idea I was commenting on MNG's ridiculous idea, which is just <14d old trials, 21d if he sent out 100 buddy invites. There should be a rather awesome pic here |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:50:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote: Finally you have the in-game hurdle of actually killing the pos with very low SP chars. Remember you need to have enough range to hit the tower from outside the shields, that is gonna preclude almost all frigs and most short-range cruiser weapons. Have fun trying to kill a pos with a bunch of t1 rail thorax.
Read the skill plan. You're getting near max-spec T1 Gank Tornados here. Um, I wasn't commenting on your ridiculous idea I was commenting on MNG's ridiculous idea, which is just <14d old trials, 21d if he sent out 100 buddy invites.
You'd still do Arty tornado or Rail Talos/Naga pretty well. And chaining buddies is just as free, since you get the one plex you bought at the beginning back at the end. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:55:00 -
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If CCP turns a blind eye to people recycling alts and using trial accounts for Hulkaggedon, why would they care about doing it for a POS. v0v
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.06.10 06:01:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote: Finally you have the in-game hurdle of actually killing the pos with very low SP chars. Remember you need to have enough range to hit the tower from outside the shields, that is gonna preclude almost all frigs and most short-range cruiser weapons. Have fun trying to kill a pos with a bunch of t1 rail thorax.
Read the skill plan. You're getting near max-spec T1 Gank Tornados here. Um, I wasn't commenting on your ridiculous idea I was commenting on MNG's ridiculous idea, which is just <14d old trials, 21d if he sent out 100 buddy invites. You'd still do Arty tornado or Rail Talos/Naga pretty well. And chaining buddies is just as free, since you get the one plex you bought at the beginning back at the end. You and I have very different definitions of 'pretty well', those trials are going to have basically no support skills, be a nightmare to fit, and do negligible damage
And it's only 'free' if you happen to have like 45bil lying around, or a spare $2000 you feel like RMTing, or you have a burning desire to sub for 8 years and want to do something stupid before you apply it. There should be a rather awesome pic here |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 06:10:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote: Finally you have the in-game hurdle of actually killing the pos with very low SP chars. Remember you need to have enough range to hit the tower from outside the shields, that is gonna preclude almost all frigs and most short-range cruiser weapons. Have fun trying to kill a pos with a bunch of t1 rail thorax.
Read the skill plan. You're getting near max-spec T1 Gank Tornados here. Um, I wasn't commenting on your ridiculous idea I was commenting on MNG's ridiculous idea, which is just <14d old trials, 21d if he sent out 100 buddy invites. You'd still do Arty tornado or Rail Talos/Naga pretty well. And chaining buddies is just as free, since you get the one plex you bought at the beginning back at the end. You and I have very different definitions of 'pretty well', those trials are going to have basically no support skills, be a nightmare to fit, and do negligible damage And it's only 'free' if you happen to have like 45bil lying around, or a spare $2000 you feel like RMTing, or you have a burning desire to sub for 8 years and want to do something stupid before you apply it.
Every time you add the first Plex to a buddy account, you get a Plex. Thus with one plex, you can activate any number of buddy accounts. The end result is a bunch of free 51d subs. As of yet, I have not heard anything about this being against the rules.
Those 51d heroes will be plenty good enough to bash an undefended POS efficiently. You don't exactly need much support to kill a space-stick.
The 50+b pricetag I talked about was to suicide gank it, not simply POS bash it. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.10 06:10:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:If it does, you should be able to use different proxies for each client.
I wouldn't recommend using a proxy/VPN to connect to EVE. Bad things have happened there. eh |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.06.10 06:17:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:[pyramid] ahahahahaha, yeh I'll concede on all those points. I hadn't thought of just doing it with one plex, genius! Here's me with my eyes popping at the thought of someone buying 100 plexes to do this.
You're also right, for a posbash like he's talking about the dps figures are irrelevant. T3's have the range needed and will certainly get the job done eventually. There should be a rather awesome pic here |

Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:23:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP, is it ok to create like 100 trial accounts and control them with that multiboxing aid carebears use to fly multiple hulks concurrently and use them to bash a pos faster? What multiboxing aid? You mean "EVE in Window Mode" with up to 2 clients per monitor? Miners and mission-runners don't need some silly helping-software to keep up with their ships. So if you can handle 100 accounts at the same time, it should be legal for you to make 100 trial alts just to bash a POS. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:29:00 -
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Anshio Tamark wrote:masternerdguy wrote:CCP, is it ok to create like 100 trial accounts and control them with that multiboxing aid carebears use to fly multiple hulks concurrently and use them to bash a pos faster? What multiboxing aid? You mean "EVE in Window Mode" with up to 2 clients per monitor? Miners and mission-runners don't need some silly helping-software to keep up with their ships. So if you can handle 100 accounts at the same time, it should be legal for you to make 100 trial alts just to bash a POS.
EvE has whitelisted ISBoxer so long as you ONLY use it to broadcast keystrokes/mouseclicks. Never to automate anything.
Not that you need it for a POS bash. Capstable Lasers with T1 ammo. Turn them all on > minimize all windows > Do something else. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:29:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Let me clarify.
Technical implications aside, is it ok to roll alts on trial accounts to bash a pos? Well, since nobody in-game can tell for sure if those alts are just your temporary obonus dps or new players you've talked into helping you kill a POS there should be no legal implications. |

Headerman1
The New Era C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:34:00 -
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Yo dawg i herd you like bots, so i went and created this bot so you can create more bots |
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