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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 07:51:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:Christ
Not even a good fit
5 heat sinks :/
I think the number of heat sinks is defensible, since he clearly didn't need more tank. The amount of ISK he spent on that shitfit is, of course, indefensible.
... and the mids are pretty bad regardless of cost.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:24:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot.
EvE would die a pretty quick death.
And people have gone out missioning in their State Ravens. If you're smart about what you're doing, you can pimp your shit out beyond all reason and do so safely.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:25:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve?
Because EvE is Everyone Vs Everyone.
And because EvE is not just meant to look like a cold, harsh univerese, it's meant to be one. That means you're never safe.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:48:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. And people have gone out missioning in their State Ravens. If you're smart about what you're doing, you can pimp your shi t out beyond all reason and do so safely. There might be a small decline in numbers off the bat because butthurt griefers dont get there way but the sub numbers would rise once the word got out that you can pve in saftey.... theres other mmo's that are worst quality then this and prob have 200k people playing at any given time.... highest ive seen since i resubbed..... ( I regret)..... is 30k....
No other MMO has experienced growth every single year for 9 years. Every other MMO (even WoW) coasts down to the next new expansion grind while the company hopes they don't run out of money before the expansion launches. EvE's sub numbers generally grow between expansions.
WoW peaked in 2010 at 12m Subs and has declined steadily to 10m.
Next biggest is Aion, peaked at 4m in mid 2009, has declined steadily to 2.5m
SWOTOR peaked at just under 2 in January and is already back to 1.5.
Second Life is finally leveling off at 800k (honestly not familiar with SL gameplay)
Warhammer Online peaked at 800k in mid 08 and crashed to 100k by 2010
Age of Conan, same, but at 700k.
Rift, peaked at 600k in mid 2011, now down at 250k.
LOTR Online, peaked at 575 in 2011, now at 250k
Now, drumroll please,
EvE, peaked at ~460k before Incarna, dropped to ~412k, and has recovered back to ~445k and is on track to break 460k again before Incarna's anniversary.
So which MMO's regularly have 200k people online? WoW only? Maaaybe WoW and Aion? SWOTOR might have peaks hitting 200k, but I doubt that's consistant. Runescape's 800k subs obviously can't support 200k online at a time.
Sidenote, Second Life is the only one with higher PCUs on a single shard than EvE.
1-12m Peak MMOs
150k-1m Peak MMOs
In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:19:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so.
Luckily CCP agrees on this (for now) 
Hopefully they can be happy with 4th among Western MMOs, behind WoW (by GameStudio/Jesus Blizzard), SWOTOR (backed by the worlds biggest franchise this side of Coca-Cola and McDonalds), Runescape (Free to Play), and Second Life (still don't know what that's about). Hopefully Hillmar doesn't decide that Super-Mega-Extra Greed-is-Good, and that EvE has to go to number 1 or bust.
Seriously, little Icelandic studio has the 4th Biggest MMO in the world.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:34:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game.
Every game has alts. But each sub brings in the same revenue as every other sub, alt or not. 400k subs is still the 5th* Largest Subscription base of Western MMOs (inc ftp Runescape and Second Life which, as ftp, are really in a different category when talking sub numbers).
How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?"
*apparently I can't always count to 5 accurately.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:36:00 -
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Peta Michalek wrote:RubyPorto wrote:In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so. Oh the irony, I can almost taste it. I won't bother dissecting all the BS you made up or misinterpreted in you post but I'd just like to point out that EVE doesn't stand for "Everyone versus Everyone" or "Everybody versus Everybody". "EVE" in "EVE Online" stands for the EVE Gate. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because you back-interpreted it as an acronym doesn't actually make it one and it certainly doesn't make it an actual argument, which you apparently think it is since you bring it up whenever you post. Which makes you look like an idiot, by the way. @JaBbAMAn: 8/10
Hi, welcome to the EvE-O Forums. Like many forums, EvE-O allows users to express themselves within a segmented area attached to the bottom of their posts called a signature.
I believe you just failed the Internet.
EDIT: It Even has a Line now. The old forums had no line separating post from Sig, and most people still understood what a sig was.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:43:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. Every game has alts. But each sub brings in the same revenue as every other sub, alt or not. 400k subs is still the 5th* Largest Subscription base of Western MMOs (inc ftp Runescape and Second Life which, as ftp, are really in a different category when talking sub numbers). How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?" *apparently I can't always count to 5 accurately. I cant think of another mmo where people would have multiple " alt accounts " not talking about alt characters.
Try answering the question before you throw out a red herring.
How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?"
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:27:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Lexmana wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. No, it shows that this game is way above other MMOs. In EVE you have to think about the consequences and not just mindlessly get the best 'gear' in-game and own everybody else. Hey! I didn't wrote that!  I like my EVE with bloodthirsty scoundrels, knifes on the table, only docked up you're save and that's only if you don't trade or do contracts. PvP everywhere!
Oh, BBCode, you so silly.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:28:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. It wouldn't, the only thing it would do is make you cry oceans of tears because you couldn't touch his tralala, eve shouldn't be safe yadayada 
EvE is currently the third largest paid Western MMO on the market. One and Two are held my Blizzard and LucasFilms. They would seem to have other things going for them besides game quality. EvE doesn't.
So, then what makes EvE special? What makes it stand out from other MMOs in such a way that it gets more subs every single year?
What's different? Integrated PvP.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:28:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:Christ
Not even a good fit
5 heat sinks :/ I think the number of heat sinks is defensible, since he clearly didn't need more tank. The amount of ISK he spent on that shi tfit is, of course, indefensible. ... and the mids are pretty bad regardless of cost. wut? There is no excuse to fit 4'th/5'th dmg mod over dual tracking enhancers, especially when you look at how awesomesauce tobias TE's are. 20% tracking each omnom
I was thinking using some of the worthless mids for TCs instead, but I'll grant that a TE certainly has as much merit as the fifth Heat sink. I will not grant that over the 4th. Mares have 4 Damage mods.
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:39:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. It wouldn't, the only thing it would do is make you cry oceans of tears because you couldn't touch his tralala, eve shouldn't be safe yadayada EvE is currently the third largest paid Western MMO on the market. One and Two are held my Blizzard and LucasFilms. They would seem to have other things going for them besides game quality. EvE doesn't. So, then what makes EvE special? What makes it stand out from other MMOs in such a way that it gets more subs every single year? What's different? Integrated PvP. No, what's different is that by playing the game, you can earn isk that pays for your gametime. It's essentially a free to play model where you can keep full access unlike other FTP models. Someone is paying for your upgrade by buying a PLEX, but it's not always you. Remove PLEX, and the gameplay wouldn't hold up without really going FTP.
Ok, so it's the second biggest FTP MMO (behind Runescape) in the Western Market. That's pretty good, too.
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