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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.10.29 08:48:00 -
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it fills our hearts with sadness and anger, that after neither m0o, CA nor any other raiding party keeping us apart from using and defending CFS Space our former allies managed to make us leave.
Oone single incident by the fault of one of our members happened after many months of fighting for CFS Space. We have apologized for the behaviour of our member and offered reimbursement, but the only reaction was that the involved pilot of the other party reengaged our pilots and got spanked by sentrys. We again apologize for the first incident, but feel not responsible for the second. The involved pilots should talk among each other to sort it on their own. If needed invite some neutral watcher to it. Many people approached us that the involved pilot should be kicked out of our corp. Let me tell you that our pilots are 100% loyal to us and thus we are 100% loyal to them. He offered leaving to prevent further damage to our reputation, but we refused the offer as he was serving us well for a long time and is a dedicated member to our course. One single mistake will be forgiven, the second will lead to further consequences.
The events happening after the second incident lead to forum posts where many of the people we fought with call us unhonorable and liars. We feel not wanted within CFS Space anymore and thus see no reason to keep fighting for these people.
We will end all hostilities towards FA/FIX and set all standings to their corps to neutral. We will pull out of CFS Space and move to empire until we have considered our options and found a new home within 0.0
Thanks to all supporters and all the pilots who still trust in us.
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.10.29 08:48:00 -
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it fills our hearts with sadness and anger, that after neither m0o, CA nor any other raiding party keeping us apart from using and defending CFS Space our former allies managed to make us leave.
Oone single incident by the fault of one of our members happened after many months of fighting for CFS Space. We have apologized for the behaviour of our member and offered reimbursement, but the only reaction was that the involved pilot of the other party reengaged our pilots and got spanked by sentrys. We again apologize for the first incident, but feel not responsible for the second. The involved pilots should talk among each other to sort it on their own. If needed invite some neutral watcher to it. Many people approached us that the involved pilot should be kicked out of our corp. Let me tell you that our pilots are 100% loyal to us and thus we are 100% loyal to them. He offered leaving to prevent further damage to our reputation, but we refused the offer as he was serving us well for a long time and is a dedicated member to our course. One single mistake will be forgiven, the second will lead to further consequences.
The events happening after the second incident lead to forum posts where many of the people we fought with call us unhonorable and liars. We feel not wanted within CFS Space anymore and thus see no reason to keep fighting for these people.
We will end all hostilities towards FA/FIX and set all standings to their corps to neutral. We will pull out of CFS Space and move to empire until we have considered our options and found a new home within 0.0
Thanks to all supporters and all the pilots who still trust in us.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:16:00 -
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page 2 of the link in kr0ms statement should settle most of this. |

MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:16:00 -
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page 2 of the link in kr0ms statement should settle most of this. |

Mellisha
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:18:00 -
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errm am i missing something here, KROM are pirates always have been always will be.
If ADGA have been loyal to CFS and your long term allies are sideing with a bunch of pirates that have only recently moved to the area, then your best bet is to leave and to find an Alliance that will back you up in these situations.
CFS, respect for finaly standing up for yourselves in recent times, i know wars can cause a little internal conflict but in this situation you really do need to look at the partys involved.
And before ppl start telling me about how KROM arent pirates anymore, who do you think was responsable for the Imperial Apocalypse Scam which happened recently?
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Mellisha
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:18:00 -
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errm am i missing something here, KROM are pirates always have been always will be.
If ADGA have been loyal to CFS and your long term allies are sideing with a bunch of pirates that have only recently moved to the area, then your best bet is to leave and to find an Alliance that will back you up in these situations.
CFS, respect for finaly standing up for yourselves in recent times, i know wars can cause a little internal conflict but in this situation you really do need to look at the partys involved.
And before ppl start telling me about how KROM arent pirates anymore, who do you think was responsable for the Imperial Apocalypse Scam which happened recently?
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Thomas Epsilon
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:18:00 -
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*cough* SA *cough* 
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Thomas Epsilon
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:18:00 -
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*cough* SA *cough* 
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:31:00 -
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KROM and ADGA are going to solve this within 24h.
Loka of Adeptus Gattacus and Elisium Dammar of KROM will be discuss this unde 4 eyes. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:31:00 -
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KROM and ADGA are going to solve this within 24h.
Loka of Adeptus Gattacus and Elisium Dammar of KROM will be discuss this unde 4 eyes. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mellisha errm am i missing something here, KROM are pirates always have been always will be.
If ADGA have been loyal to CFS and your long term allies are sideing with a bunch of pirates that have only recently moved to the area, then your best bet is to leave and to find an Alliance that will back you up in these situations.
CFS, respect for finaly standing up for yourselves in recent times, i know wars can cause a little internal conflict but in this situation you really do need to look at the partys involved.
And before ppl start telling me about how KROM arent pirates anymore, who do you think was responsable for the Imperial Apocalypse Scam which happened recently?
Damn, what an ignorant post. Of course... you being a big name in eve would know it all. ohhh the intel.  |

Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.29 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mellisha errm am i missing something here, KROM are pirates always have been always will be.
If ADGA have been loyal to CFS and your long term allies are sideing with a bunch of pirates that have only recently moved to the area, then your best bet is to leave and to find an Alliance that will back you up in these situations.
CFS, respect for finaly standing up for yourselves in recent times, i know wars can cause a little internal conflict but in this situation you really do need to look at the partys involved.
And before ppl start telling me about how KROM arent pirates anymore, who do you think was responsable for the Imperial Apocalypse Scam which happened recently?
Damn, what an ignorant post. Of course... you being a big name in eve would know it all. ohhh the intel.  |

Mellisha
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:33:00 -
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hit a nerve dear?
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Mellisha
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:33:00 -
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hit a nerve dear?
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Andrew Redburn it fills our hearts with sadness and anger, that after neither m0o, CA nor any other raiding party keeping us apart from using and defending CFS Space our former allies managed to make us leave.
Oone single incident by the fault of one of our members happened after many months of fighting for CFS Space. We have apologized for the behaviour of our member and offered reimbursement, but the only reaction was that the involved pilot of the other party reengaged our pilots and got spanked by sentrys. We again apologize for the first incident, but feel not responsible for the second. The involved pilots should talk among each other to sort it on their own. If needed invite some neutral watcher to it. Many people approached us that the involved pilot should be kicked out of our corp. Let me tell you that our pilots are 100% loyal to us and thus we are 100% loyal to them. He offered leaving to prevent further damage to our reputation, but we refused the offer as he was serving us well for a long time and is a dedicated member to our course. One single mistake will be forgiven, the second will lead to further consequences.
The events happening after the second incident lead to forum posts where many of the people we fought with call us unhonorable and liars. We feel not wanted within CFS Space anymore and thus see no reason to keep fighting for these people.
We will end all hostilities towards FA/FIX and set all standings to their corps to neutral. We will pull out of CFS Space and move to empire until we have considered our options and found a new home within 0.0
Thanks to all supporters and all the pilots who still trust in us.
Since resent information i got, i cant blaim you.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Andrew Redburn it fills our hearts with sadness and anger, that after neither m0o, CA nor any other raiding party keeping us apart from using and defending CFS Space our former allies managed to make us leave.
Oone single incident by the fault of one of our members happened after many months of fighting for CFS Space. We have apologized for the behaviour of our member and offered reimbursement, but the only reaction was that the involved pilot of the other party reengaged our pilots and got spanked by sentrys. We again apologize for the first incident, but feel not responsible for the second. The involved pilots should talk among each other to sort it on their own. If needed invite some neutral watcher to it. Many people approached us that the involved pilot should be kicked out of our corp. Let me tell you that our pilots are 100% loyal to us and thus we are 100% loyal to them. He offered leaving to prevent further damage to our reputation, but we refused the offer as he was serving us well for a long time and is a dedicated member to our course. One single mistake will be forgiven, the second will lead to further consequences.
The events happening after the second incident lead to forum posts where many of the people we fought with call us unhonorable and liars. We feel not wanted within CFS Space anymore and thus see no reason to keep fighting for these people.
We will end all hostilities towards FA/FIX and set all standings to their corps to neutral. We will pull out of CFS Space and move to empire until we have considered our options and found a new home within 0.0
Thanks to all supporters and all the pilots who still trust in us.
Since resent information i got, i cant blaim you.
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heavyg
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:56:00 -
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Best wishes for the future ADGA, its has been a honour to fight both alongside and against you. I am sure we will be seeing you soonÖ
HG
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heavyg
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Posted - 2004.10.29 10:56:00 -
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Best wishes for the future ADGA, its has been a honour to fight both alongside and against you. I am sure we will be seeing you soonÖ
HG
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Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.29 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Elisium Dammar on 29/10/2004 11:06:06
Originally by: Mellisha hit a nerve dear?
Lose some ISK darling?
And yes your ingorance does anger me. |

Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.29 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Elisium Dammar on 29/10/2004 11:06:06
Originally by: Mellisha hit a nerve dear?
Lose some ISK darling?
And yes your ingorance does anger me. |

Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.10.29 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Andrew Redburn
We will end all hostilities towards FA/FIX and set all standings to their corps to neutral.
Obsidian Asylum will reset standings to neutral for ADGA. GL for the future guys. _________________________________
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.10.29 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Andrew Redburn
We will end all hostilities towards FA/FIX and set all standings to their corps to neutral.
Obsidian Asylum will reset standings to neutral for ADGA. GL for the future guys. _________________________________
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2004.10.29 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mellisha errm am i missing something here, KROM, as far as i know and from what i heard from secondry sources are pirates. Always have been, and i speculate they always will be, yet i don't really know because i'm not part of their corp, nor am i in contact with any of their members on either a professional or personal level, so i guess i really don't know s**t all. I must just be a bitter, bitter individual
We were pirates, yes, never denied it. But, who are you to comment on the turn around of another person's corp? You know less than nothing, and an uninformed opinion is no opinion at all, it's called personal speculation. So i took the liberty of changing your quote, and cleaning up your punctuation..
Originally by: Loka KROM and ADGA are going to solve this within 24h.
Loka of Adeptus Gattacus and Elisium Dammar of KROM will be discuss this unde 4 eyes.
Wise words Loka, i always had time for your posts. I hope yourself and Elisium can rise above many of the comments and actions made by both of our corp members.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2004.10.29 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mellisha errm am i missing something here, KROM, as far as i know and from what i heard from secondry sources are pirates. Always have been, and i speculate they always will be, yet i don't really know because i'm not part of their corp, nor am i in contact with any of their members on either a professional or personal level, so i guess i really don't know s**t all. I must just be a bitter, bitter individual
We were pirates, yes, never denied it. But, who are you to comment on the turn around of another person's corp? You know less than nothing, and an uninformed opinion is no opinion at all, it's called personal speculation. So i took the liberty of changing your quote, and cleaning up your punctuation..
Originally by: Loka KROM and ADGA are going to solve this within 24h.
Loka of Adeptus Gattacus and Elisium Dammar of KROM will be discuss this unde 4 eyes.
Wise words Loka, i always had time for your posts. I hope yourself and Elisium can rise above many of the comments and actions made by both of our corp members.
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Hast
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Posted - 2004.10.29 18:18:00 -
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what corps are left in cfs/ufs/whatever?
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Hast
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Posted - 2004.10.29 18:18:00 -
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what corps are left in cfs/ufs/whatever?
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khalum
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Posted - 2004.10.30 09:46:00 -
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As I wrote in the krom-statement, both krom and ADGA are a bunch of good guys.
NOW SOLVE THIS ******* **** OR ILL HUNT YOU BACK TO NEW CALDARI!
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Peackeepers Inc. never dies, they just go to hell and regroup |

khalum
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Posted - 2004.10.30 09:46:00 -
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As I wrote in the krom-statement, both krom and ADGA are a bunch of good guys.
NOW SOLVE THIS ******* **** OR ILL HUNT YOU BACK TO NEW CALDARI!
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Peackeepers Inc. never dies, they just go to hell and regroup |

Conrad
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Posted - 2004.11.01 03:28:00 -
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Rift your sig pwns. Meant to post it in another thread when I first saw it, but was reading this one at the time. Tams was great too.
Paint > photoshop

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Conrad
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Posted - 2004.11.01 03:28:00 -
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Rift your sig pwns. Meant to post it in another thread when I first saw it, but was reading this one at the time. Tams was great too.
Paint > photoshop

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