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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.18 01:45:00 -
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A member of The Aduro Protocol is whining about annoying forum posters? All I have to say is simply "Siigari". There.
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.18 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit A member of The Aduro Protocol is whining about annoying forum posters? All I have to say is simply "Siigari". There.
I don't speak for Siig or my corp. I speak for myself.
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Lotus Sutra
Caldari Sutra Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.18 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
EVE became profitable at 50,000 players/accounts. If they have to cut lose, say, 50,000 carebears out of 300k accounts to stay true to their vision, they'll try to find a way around but if they must, they're likely to do it.
The MAJORITY of players, per CCP's own often repeated statements, Live in High Security Space. Majority. Not Minority. I doubt very much if CCP is going to be willing to axe a majority of their income. They are a for profit company.
You get comfortable making a few hundred million isk profits and suddenly your down to a few hundred thousand isk profits, your going to be looking for the AXE and Chopping block and placing the idiots head on it that cost you those fat round figures you got happy, and used to seeing.
CCP is going to be far more interested in maintaining their bottom line, than they will be interested in ****ing off a majority of their users. Translate that how you wish, but to me that translates into CCP will give lip service to the pvp crowd, but pander to their true bread and butter.. the PVE crowd.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.10.18 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo Lol, you think the carebear contingency is only 50k?
I picked a number to illustrate a point. It wasn't my intention to include all carebears in that number. If you prefer a more refined guess:
300k accounts, 200k dabblers/carebears, 50k hardcore PvP, 50k ultimate carebear. Unpopular change, regular 200k carebears can live with it, 50k ultimates quit. EVE is still at 5 times the number of accounts for profitability.
This better? Or are you going to dispute the 50k hardcore PvP randomly picked number now?
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.18 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Anslo Lol, you think the carebear contingency is only 50k?
I picked a number to illustrate a point. It wasn't my intention to include all carebears in that number. If you prefer a more refined guess:
300k accounts, 200k dabblers/carebears, 50k hardcore PvP, 50k ultimate carebear. Unpopular change, regular 200k carebears can live with it, 50k ultimates quit. EVE is still at 5 times the number of accounts for profitability.
This better? Or are you going to dispute the 50k hardcore PvP randomly picked number now?
yes and if the 200k dabblers can't dabble anymore because they have to be serious while mission running, what do you think they'll do hm? You underestimate how many people mission run only in this game. Carebears rule this game, deal with it. :)
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.10.18 02:39:00 -
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Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 18/10/2009 02:40:24
Originally by: Lotus Sutra stuff
Empyrean Age: Faction warfare Quantum Rise: Industry, mostly canned, eg different rigsizes were supposed to be in this one. Speed nerf. Apocrypha: Wormholes, w-space, probing changes Dominion: Sov/0.0 overhaul.
3.5 out of 4 expansions in the past 2 years: PvP
Lip service? Pandering to PvP crowd?
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.18 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 18/10/2009 02:40:24
Originally by: Lotus Sutra stuff
Empyrean Age: Faction warfare Quantum Rise: Industry, mostly canned, eg different rigsizes were supposed to be in this one. Speed nerf. Apocrypha: Wormholes, w-space, probing changes Dominion: Sov/0.0 overhaul.
3.5 out of 4 expansions in the past 2 years: PvP
Lip service? Pandering to PvP crowd?
FW: PvE entry into pvp, mostly a crock QR: Industrial stuff, no pvp content Apocrypha: Huge ass pve upgrade+lor+storyline+Epic mission Arcs+T3 industry+etc etc Dominion: Asthetics (planets n stars), new faction BS overhaul, a little sov changes
Way to misrepresent expansions. Again, carebears win :)
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Lotus Sutra
Caldari Sutra Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.18 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 18/10/2009 02:40:24
Originally by: Lotus Sutra stuff
Empyrean Age: Faction warfare Quantum Rise: Industry, mostly canned, eg different rigsizes were supposed to be in this one. Speed nerf. Apocrypha: Wormholes, w-space, probing changes Dominion: Sov/0.0 overhaul.
3.5 out of 4 expansions in the past 2 years: PvP
Lip service? Pandering to PvP crowd?
1. an utter failure by all accounts, and it still had boosts to the pve crowd in it. 2. speed nerf by itself was a blow to the pvp crowd. Orca's etc were a major boost to pvp crowd, I don't remember all the changes etc in it so honestly can't comment. 3. wormholes.. right.. a high sec carebear snackfest that also included some pvp aspects beccause the systems were rated 0.0 but the reality is... far more carebears work in them than pvpers. so.. I'd say a major PVE buff. 4.haven't read the dev notes so can't comment really.
But I'd say lip service yes. Some aspects were for pvp but the majority really helped the pve crowds. ------------------------------------------------
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.10.18 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo Way to misrepresent expansions.
Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. 
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.10.18 03:15:00 -
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I have to agree he's a **** poaster.
But all I've seen him post is variations on "hur hur hur boost blaster boats!!11eleventy"
Besides that I guess he's an alright chap.
So Aduro is goin' failbear? dood...siig...wth
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Lotus Sutra
Caldari Sutra Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.18 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 18/10/2009 03:08:57
Originally by: Anslo Way to misrepresent expansions.
Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. 
Edit: note that both of you state that CCP is mixing PvP into PvE activities (or vice versa) with both FW and w-space.
I hereby claim victory in this discussion and for my standpoint. I declare that CCPs focus is indeed PvP and has even managed to subvert part of the PvE crowd to get closer to PvP or even involved in it, so sneakily that the actual PvE crowd defending it as PvE content. 
I'm stealing your signature and using it on my blog.  ------------------------------------------------
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.10.18 04:00:00 -
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Get a room!
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.18 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo
Originally by: Vaal Erit A member of The Aduro Protocol is whining about annoying forum posters? All I have to say is simply "Siigari". There.
I don't speak for Siig or my corp. I speak for myself.
You don't have to speak for your corp, everyone knows how useless threads made by The Aduro Protocol are via Siigari and your useless thread is just another example. Guess what? You are Siigari lite.
Your posts are about as dumb as if Goonswarm members came here whining about useless CAOD posts. Get it, Einstein?
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Ignitious Hellfury
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.10.18 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo
Originally by: Washell Olivaw Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 18/10/2009 02:40:24
Originally by: Lotus Sutra stuff
Empyrean Age: Faction warfare Quantum Rise: Industry, mostly canned, eg different rigsizes were supposed to be in this one. Speed nerf. Apocrypha: Wormholes, w-space, probing changes Dominion: Sov/0.0 overhaul.
3.5 out of 4 expansions in the past 2 years: PvP
Lip service? Pandering to PvP crowd?
FW: PvE entry into pvp, mostly a crock QR: Industrial stuff, no pvp content Apocrypha: Huge ass pve upgrade+lor+storyline+Epic mission Arcs+T3 industry+etc etc Dominion: Asthetics (planets n stars), new faction BS overhaul, a little sov changes
Way to misrepresent expansions. Again, carebears win :)
Saying faction BS overhaul is a PvE feature is silly seeing as their largely being balanced in light of their current PvP performance. Granted they can be used in pve and are more popular in PvE, but that's only because its "safe."
And the biggest joke of your post there is the "little sov changes" ... It's getting COMPLETELY redone. Like turned on its head, spanked, thrown into a meat grinder and turned into a hamburger. Terrible metaphor, sure, but you have to realize that dominion sov changes will not reflect the old system... whatsoever, except that an alliance name will still appear on the top left of your screen.
And unless something has changed recently, noob corps are getting their little 11% taxy dealio to push for making said carebears more vulnerable.
For my final note I'd like to say that the best post in here so far was at least bellum is relevant in eve that he is relevant to the people that he has killed/killed him - You sir, are irrelevant because the only people who have felt your wrath are nameless AI.
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.18 05:45:00 -
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Bellum is a pretty chill brosef. Hes taught me a ton about game mechanics and made me a better Pvp'er which isnt saying much . I think this thread is one of the reasons he posts, he annoyed someone.
But seriously Bellum, do you have to say F*** so much on Vent?
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Capt Fossil
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.18 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah Bellum is a pretty chill brosef. Hes taught me a ton about game mechanics and made me a better Pvp'er which isnt saying much . I think this thread is one of the reasons he posts, he annoyed someone.
But seriously Bellum, do you have to say F*** so much on Vent?
Gate Campers......the Trailer Park trash of Eve.
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CCP Applebabe

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Posted - 2009.10.18 07:11:00 -
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Non-constructive .
Locked.
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