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Nebulous Minmatar Salvage Junkies	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:00:00 - [1] Whats the crack with people that can not seem to understand the basics of drawing cash from a machine? Is it to much to ****ing ask that they: Put in card - enter pin number - chose amount - take cash, seriously it's not even funny, why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. TELL ME WHY!? -------------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari Vanguard Frontiers	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:10:00 - [2] God hates YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
JitaBum Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:21:00 - [3] Once you enter your pin number there should be a timer. If your transaction isn't finished within 30 seconds, you should be electrocuted every few seconds until you finish. It's only the only answer imo.
Jacob Mei Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:26:00 - [4] People still use physical cash these days? Even vending machines accept cards these days. On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod!
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Nebulous Whats the crack with people that can not seem to understand the basics of drawing cash from a machine? Is it to much to ****ing ask that they: Put in card - enter pin number - chose amount - take cash, seriously it's not even funny, why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. TELL ME WHY!? ------------------------------------------------- The ones I really really like are the Cash Points that won't dispense cash if you are withdrawing when you're into an overdraft, and the one I use is in a student area, so sometimes they try to reuse the machine three or four times. They just can't seem to figure it out. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:33:00 - [6] Originally by: Nebulous pin number PIN= personal identification number sooooooooo saying personal identification number number is a tad odd.
Sazkyen	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Nebulous Whats the crack with people that can not seem to understand the basics of drawing cash from a machine? Is it to much to ****ing ask that they: Put in card - enter pin number - chose amount - take cash, seriously it's not even funny, why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. TELL ME WHY!? ------------------------------------------------- So it's basically about your balls not being kept warm.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Nebulous Whats the crack with people that can not seem to understand the basics of drawing cash from a machine? Is it to much to **ing ask that they: Put in card - enter pin number - chose amount - take cash, seriously it's not even funny, why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. TELL ME WHY!? The real problem is that those pin number machines are in grocery stores now too. It used to take ages to wait for old people to count their pennies, but now they can literally take minutes before they successfully manage to put the code in. It is sort of funny, that a feature that is meant to help streamline the whole process, actually puts a stop to the flow of customers. Originally by:** Jacob Mei People still use physical cash these days? Even vending machines accept cards these days. I like the feel and scent of money, so I prefer to use cash. Not to mention I hate having to remember a hundred and one codes, passwords and numbers for every god damn thing in the world. I can't change that, but I try to avoid and mitigate it as much as I can.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.10.17 22:03:00 - [9] I had one woman infront of me take ten bloody minutes, she kept putting her card back in and doing another transaction, then checking balance, then getting receipt, each time taking the card out, then putting it back in, rather than just pressing "Yes" for another transcation.
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.10.18 02:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Nebulous why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. Hi Neb, this is Pore on his second account! Feature-creep is infecting cash machines! You can even buy phone credit on them now. So while you just want to get at that tenner you need, some bloke might be trying to figure out who he will phone next week, how long he will chat, and whether he needs extra credits for texts. I fear it will only get worse as more of these 'conveniences' are introduced to cash points. _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!

Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.10.18 03:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Sazkyen Originally by: Nebulous Whats the crack with people that can not seem to understand the basics of drawing cash from a machine? Is it to much to **ing ask that they: Put in card - enter pin number - chose amount - take cash, seriously it's not even funny, why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. TELL ME WHY!? ------------------------------------------------- So it's basically about your balls not being kept warm. burrrrrrrrrnnnn.... Originally by:** Hamshoe Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
AlleyKat The Unwanted.	Posted - 2009.10.18 10:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Nebulous What's the crack with people that can not seem to understand the basics of drawing cash from a machine? Is it to much to ****ing ask that they: Put in card - enter pin number - chose amount - take cash, seriously it's not even funny, why do 99% of the population feel they need to spend the best part of a year drawing out cash while I am stood behind them freezing my balls off. TELL ME WHY!? ------------------------------------------------- In my town they have a habit of standing there whilst reading the printout and THEN deciding to put in a completely different card and check the balance on that card. I've seen someone put 3 cards in to check balance, and then leave a cash machine without withdrawing money at all - and I'll bet they did not even bank with the owner of the machine anyway. I hate them with a passion.
Losmandy Amarr Off World Enterprises	Posted - 2009.10.18 10:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Losmandy on 18/10/2009 10:42:49 Slightly off topic but I'm always the one at Tesco/Asda/Morrisons who gets stuck behind the person who's card wont swipe/work/a pricing conflict or their milk carton has sprung a leak. In such circumstances it is not unknown for me to walk out leaving my shopping trolly behind at the till, not good I know but meh.
Feilamya Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS	Posted - 2009.10.18 11:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 17/10/2009 21:52:28 The real problem is that those pin number machines are in grocery stores now too. It used to take ages to wait for old people to count their pennies, but now they can literally take minutes before they successfully manage to put the code in. It is sort of funny, that a feature that is meant to help streamline the whole process, actually puts a stop to the flow of customers. Nothing is ever implemented to streamline a process. Whenever you think about streamlining a process, think about maximizing profit instead. This feature is meant to increase profit by saving on employees. Sure, they may lose some customers too, but as long as most people (like you) prefer to whine rather than find a different grocery store, it's still a win for them.
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.10.18 11:48:00 - [15] Originally by: AlleyKat In my town they have a habit of standing there whilst reading the printout and THEN deciding to put in a completely different card and check the balance on that card. I've seen someone put 3 cards in to check balance, and then leave a cash machine without withdrawing money at all - and I'll bet they did not even bank with the owner of the machine anyway. I hate them with a passion. These are the worst offenders shudders I get embarassed if I have to do something on a second card. But annoyingly it's not always unavoidable...in the UK, to use a card in stores now you have to 'unblock' the PIN or some such from an ATM. And you have to do it even for replacement cards when the last already worked. It's an annoying extra process that every card has to go thru...I don't see the point personally. If banks are confident that the PIN is the alpha and omega of card protection, it does nothing more than hassle the cardholder. Anyone who knows the PIN could unblock it for use in stores as easily as simply using it in a store. So now at the cash point a new card holder: - Enter card - Enter issued PIN - Change PIN - Retrieve card - Enter card - Enter new PIN - Unblock PIN - Enter PIN again - Retrieve card - Enter card - Enter new, unblocked PIN - Check balance - Top up PAYG phone - Withdraw ú10 (with receipt) - Retrieve card, cash and receipt I'd have given them ú10 to go somewhere else -------------
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2009.10.18 12:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Jacob Mei People still use physical cash these days? Trying to use your card in an exotic dancer will get you thrown out. Yes. Yes, I am.
Feilamya Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS	Posted - 2009.10.18 12:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Shirley Serious Trying to use your card in an exotic dancer like this?
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.10.18 12:45:00 - [18] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 18/10/2009 12:46:37 Originally by: Jacob Mei People still use physical cash these days? Too easy for me to loose receipts and not keep my balance correct, plus it makes it so much easier to stick to my budget. Originally by: Shirley Serious Trying to use your card in an exotic dancer will get you thrown out. Me thinks that trying to use your cash in a exotic dancer will get you thrown out also EDIT: I know how you feel Nebulous Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
Lord Windu Echelon Warfare Unit	Posted - 2009.10.18 12:53:00 - [19] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 18/10/2009 12:46:37 Originally by: Jacob Mei People still use physical cash these days? Too easy for me to loose receipts and not keep my balance correct, plus it makes it so much easier to stick to my budget. Totally agree, buying online or using my card in stores always ends with me spending way too much whereas when I use cash I find it much easier to budget my money and I am more likely to look for a bargain aswell rather than buy it at full price in the first store I go into. ------ In Before Kanye West
Fina Kelitan	Posted - 2009.10.19 11:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Losmandy Edited by: Losmandy on 18/10/2009 10:42:49 Slightly off topic but I'm always the one at Tesco/Asda/Morrisons who gets stuck behind the person who's card wont swipe/work/a pricing conflict or their milk carton has sprung a leak. In such circumstances it is not unknown for me to walk out leaving my shopping trolly behind at the till, not good I know but meh. Self checkouts at Tesco/Sainsbury's ftw. I get through so much faster now that they've replaced 4 tills (which were rarely all staffed) with 10 self-checkouts (which only takes 2 staff for all 10). Originally by: KingsGambit ...in the UK, to use a card in stores now you have to 'unblock' the PIN or some such from an ATM. And you have to do it even for replacement cards when the last already worked. It's an annoying extra process that every card has to go thru... Wha-ha? I'm in the UK and I have no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps you're just with a crap bank? - Experienced EVE player trying a new character

Dante Cyberon	Posted - 2009.10.19 12:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Feilamya Originally by: Shirley Serious Trying to use your card in an exotic dancer like this? You are. Going to die. A painful. Painful death. Ingame.
Ombey Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.10.19 13:45:00 - [22] @ the OP, I feel your pain. I think some people really like to queue though. Take my local Argos at peak times for example. Despite the fact Argos have supplied these excellent self-service checkout tills, no-one uses them- they prefer to queue for ten minutes. 2d EveMaps\|My blog
Gibbeous Moon	Posted - 2009.10.19 13:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Unity Love Originally by: Nebulous pin number PIN= personal identification number sooooooooo saying personal identification number number is a tad odd. But if we call it a PI Number then people would stand there forever trying to put in 3.147 and wonder why it won't work.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Distant Drums	Posted - 2009.10.19 13:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Ombey @ the OP, I feel your pain. I think some people really like to queue though. Take my local Argos at peak times for example. Despite the fact Argos have supplied these excellent self-service checkout tills, no-one uses them- they prefer to queue for ten minutes. No, that's not because they like to queue, it's because they don't know how to use the self service checkouts. ____________________
Hammerswift Thunder Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.19 22:43:00 - [25] 4 words for you. home depot self checkouts makes me wana pick up that nice new 2x4 on there cart and bash them with it.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2009.10.20 05:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Irida Mershkov I had one woman infront of me take ten bloody minutes, she kept putting her card back in and doing another transaction, then checking balance, then getting receipt, each time taking the card out, then putting it back in, rather than just pressing "Yes" for another transcation. Educate her, be sure to be as patronizing as possible. Delenda est achura.
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.20 10:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Irida Mershkov I had one woman infront of me take ten bloody minutes, she kept putting her card back in and doing another transaction, then checking balance, then getting receipt, each time taking the card out, then putting it back in, rather than just pressing "Yes" for another transcation. Educate her, be sure to be as patronizing as possible. Surprisingly hitting the foreigners that 'live' in our country with a British passport is no longer allowed. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2009.10.20 10:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Feilamya Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 17/10/2009 21:52:28 The real problem is that those pin number machines are in grocery stores now too. It used to take ages to wait for old people to count their pennies, but now they can literally take minutes before they successfully manage to put the code in. It is sort of funny, that a feature that is meant to help streamline the whole process, actually puts a stop to the flow of customers. Nothing is ever implemented to streamline a process. Whenever you think about streamlining a process, think about maximizing profit instead. This feature is meant to increase profit by saving on employees. Sure, they may lose some customers too, but as long as most people (like you) prefer to whine rather than find a different grocery store, it's still a win for them. Actually it's meant to have 'money' in circulation without it actually being real cash, meaning the banks will have more real cash which in turn means they get to lend out more. The BANKS want you to use it, ofcourse the shops like it as well but only because the banks made changing and handling real cash super expensive, on purpose obviously. If the banks would make it more expensive to use electronic stuff and not put a stupidly high handling fee on real cash transactions then you'd see it the other way round, but you won't see that happen ofcourse. It's the choice of the bank, not the shop. ----------- ADM-I
Fina Kelitan	Posted - 2009.10.20 11:15:00 - [29] Originally by: Hammerswift Thunder 4 words for you. home depot self checkouts makes me wana pick up that nice new 2x4 on there cart and bash them with it. They do occasionally have their idiosyncrasies, I had great fun* recently with one at Sainsbury's which came up with "item not bagged" underneath the first thing I scanned, but placing it in a bag made it come up with "unexpected item in bag". Going back to "item not bagged" if I took it back out. Turns out something had convinced it I was never going to bag it, so when I did it assumed I was trying to steal something else. *sarcasm for those who miss it easily Generally though, they're much quicker to deal with than queuing for a normal till. - Experienced EVE player trying a new character
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2009.10.20 11:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Gibbeous Moon Originally by: Unity Love Originally by: Nebulous pin number PIN= personal identification number sooooooooo saying personal identification number number is a tad odd. But if we call it a PI Number then people would stand there forever trying to put in 3.147 and wonder why it won't work. To be correct, the term is either simply "PIN" or the full "Personal Identification Number" (one syllable vs eleven). The term "PIN Number" is case of RAS Syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome Syndrome). -----



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