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Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts	Posted - 2009.10.19 16:42:00 - [61] Originally by: Huzzie I honestly doubt you want to face me in real life when you can¦t hide behind your computer monitor... Was that a RL threat, on the forums? It sure looks like one doesn't it? -------------------------------------------- Quote: EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
Tenokiro	Posted - 2009.10.19 16:47:00 - [62] Still haven't read up on laws eh? provoking someone into an agressive action actually leaves the provoker as the responsible, so unless any real life harm is actually done then it is mearly false accusations.
Fubare	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:09:00 - [63] Before threatening peeps in real life u should read these legal implications. http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=KcbF20vZTZr0yD25zCgpgtmvbtxJ9QQtH584s30XW7Pvm7YhmzMW!507429036!-82436048?docId=5001506286 Now, can I have ur stuff?
Tenokiro	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:17:00 - [64] Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 17:21:29 I hardly have any comments, atleast not when it is an article about gay and lesbian community anyway are you sure that is the link you wanted to post?
Bald Negroid	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:20:00 - [65] "I¦m paying to play that game and I can expect at least some entertainment for my money...putting EVE on and end up totally frustrated because of that stupid "game mechanism" prevent any fun the game might give..." Thx CCP for keeping me entertained while i'm at work. Isn't this game great? Oh shoot gotta go do number 1, drank too many tears with this one.
Vultaras	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:24:00 - [66] I am new here but my advice about can stealing: choose system which is high security zone but on the edge of your empire, traffic there is very low and possibility of stealing your ore is very low. Till now i never had such a problems . Good luck
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:27:00 - [67] Originally by: Tenokiro Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 12:51:53 Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 12:45:00 Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 12:34:30 Originally by: ServantOfMask Originally by: Huzzie Edited by: Huzzie on 18/10/2009 16:29:43 I guess I have the right to post my thoughts no matter if certain people like it or not... and we have the right to flame you for your whines until you quit or stop using your right to post. just thought I'd point that out to you... by the way the only thing you accomplished with your OP and subsequent Reply is to make you a Target and then an even bigger TARGET for anyone who wants some quick and guaranteed carebear tears with a good shot of a dedicated whine thread on here. Congratulations you failed eve-player mentality 101, remedial classes are forming right now. ServantOfMask, I am afraid that you have compleatly misunderstood what freedom of speech actually means, and thereby how you are legally allowed to use it. Freedom of speech does not grant you the right to flame someone, it only grants you the right to say whats on your mind aslong as you are not intentionally attempting to hurt someone. EDIT Just so that you are all aware, while playing a game or writing on the internet you are still bound by the laws of your own government. If you are talking about the First Amendment of the United States Constitution when referring to "Freedom Of Speech", it has absolutely nothing to do with posting on an internet forum. You do not enjoy the protections of the First Amendment of the Constitution when posting on a private message forum. The First Amendment only protects you from governmental interference with your ability to "speak" on something. In other words, it means jack ** unless the United States Government is operating or legislating the operation of this internet forum. Quote:** Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. In other words, the government can't tell you what you can and can't say. CCP reserves the right to dictate what you can and can't post on their forum, regardless of any laws from any other country. Spelling is your friend by the way.
El Muerte Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:31:00 - [68] Don't listen to them mate. Keep crying and if you get enough people to cry with you... CCP will change it. They always do.
Riedle Minmatar Raptus Regalitor Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:32:00 - [69] Edited by: Riedle on 19/10/2009 17:34:43 Originally by: Huzzie Originally by: Riedle Confirming this is why the petition system is so slow. They need to get people responding to silly petitions to harden the F up on their responses. If I may: "Since you are obviously a person who takes the short bus to school and wear a hockey helmet even when you aren't playing hockey - then I shall explain it to you. This is not a single player game and we aren't your nanny. Harden the F up." Thank you for contacting a CCP GM through the petition mechanism. yes I wear a helmet if I¦m driving the bike as my children needs a father and I simply dont want to risk loosing my life just because of a dull moment and my head hitting the ground thank you...beside that I honestly doubt you want to face me in real life when you can¦t hide behind your computer monitor... as said above already I still have the right to say what I think same as you claim for yourself...if you dont have anything constructive to say feel free to not post same goes for anyone else trying to spread around insults... Uh oh! An internet tough guy! what shalls I do?? I have no comeback for an internets tough guis! oh, I know. spelling! Get it through your THICK skull, it's spelled LOSING your life. Not loosing. Wtf? is loosing anyways? Oh and fake edit: LOLS on you wearing a hockey helmet on a bike! (Nelson laugh) Haaaaa ha! Real edit: Your tears are delicious. I am envious of the people harvesting them from you. What system are you in? I will come meet you face to face, err.. spaceship to spacehip for internetz honourz.
Tenokiro	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:41:00 - [70] Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 17:46:23 Quote: "We reaffirm, as an essential foundation of the Information Society, and as outlined in Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, that everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; that this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Communication is a fundamental social process, a basic human need and the foundation of all social organisation. It is central to the Information Society. Everyone, everywhere should have the opportunity to participate and no one should be excluded from the benefits of the Information Society offers." That does not grant the right to harass or provoke another person mearly for that purpose. Freedom of speech grants you the right to seek information and ideas, the right to receive information and ideas and the right to impart information and ideas. So unless you are part of the press then it does not grant you the right to for example call someone a (insert word) etc.
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:54:00 - [71] As many people have tried to tell you already, this is an MMO... Massively Multiplayer! Think about it. CCP want this to be a harsh unforgiving world where the strong prospers on account of the weak. You have two choices, continue to be a sheep or learn how to be a wolf. Your primary asset in this game is your brain, not isk, not skillpoints, not mountains of faction/officer items. Learn from your own mistakes, challenge yourself to deal with the problems you face in the game, this way you will find what it means to play EVE and why it continues to grow 6 years running. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.19 17:54:00 - [72] Originally by: Tenokiro Quote: "We reaffirm, as an essential foundation of the Information Society, and as outlined in Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, that everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; that this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Communication is a fundamental social process, a basic human need and the foundation of all social organisation. It is central to the Information Society. Everyone, everywhere should have the opportunity to participate and no one should be excluded from the benefits of the Information Society offers." That does not grant the right to harass or provoke another person mearly for that purpose. Freedom of speech grants you the right to seek information and ideas, the right to receive information and ideas and the right to impart information and ideas. So unless you are part of the press then it does not grant you the right to for example call someone a "****ed moron" etc. It actually doesn't mean other than member nations of the UN, who affirm the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, can't interfere with someone's ability to express their thoughts on a legislative/punitive level. Unfortunately it doesn't do for what someone can say to someone else....for some reason everyone tries to equate that ONLY involves governments to everything in life. Sorry, doesn't work that way...and who the ** cares what the UN has to say about anything...they're completely and utterly inept at anything they do. There is nothing that will stop someone from calling you a moron...there are no laws that can be applied to calling someone a moron, especially on the internet. I would love to see someone claim and prove "damages" from an argument on an internet spaceship forum, and not be laughed out of court wherever they live.
Tenokiro	Posted - 2009.10.19 18:04:00 - [73] Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 18:05:34 You have the exact same rights on a forum as you do on the street of the country you live in. You have never had the right to harass someone mearly for the sake of provoking them. Yes I know that it is not stated clearly anywhere what you do not have the right to do, but if you really doubt me then just go and talk to a judge.
Nyxster	Posted - 2009.10.19 18:06:00 - [74] Originally by: Huzzie I honestly doubt you want to face me in real life when you can¦t hide behind your computer monitor...... epic, you can't deal with the fact someone nicks your stuff on a computer game, but you are in fact Charles Bronson in RL. or you could just be a fat nerdy emokid whose afraid of his own pet dog like pretty much everyone else who plays internetz tuff guyz.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.19 18:07:00 - [75] Edited by: Barakkus on 19/10/2009 18:07:44 Originally by: Tenokiro You have the exact same right on a forum as you do on the street of the country you live in, the same goes for all the laws that exist, it is also why some games cannot be released in places such as australia. You have never had the right to harass someone mearly for the sake of provoking them. Yes I know that it is not stated clearly anywhere what you do not have the right to do, but if you really doubt me then just go and talk to a judge. No you don't, you're bound by ToS that you agree to when you get access to the game/forums. Your local laws mean jack **, and I seriously doubt anyone will think you're serious when you go crying to them about "so and so" called me an ***** on the ever so serious internet spaceship game forum. Btw, I was a SOE forum moderator for almost 3 years, it doesn't work that way ;)
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.10.19 18:08:00 - [76] Originally by: Tenokiro Quote: "We reaffirm, as an essential foundation of the [yadda yadda]" That does not grant the right to harass or provoke another person mearly for that purpose. Freedom of speech grants you the right to seek information and ideas, the right to receive information and ideas and the right to impart information and ideas. So unless you are part of the press then it does not grant you the right to for example call someone a (insert word) etc. And that quote is taken from where, exactly? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tenokiro	Posted - 2009.10.19 18:45:00 - [77] Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 18:52:17 In law, defamation also called calumny, libel (for written words), slander (for spoken words), and vilification is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always, a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant). In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts, which arises where one person reveals information that is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person. It does not matter to me that you have been a moderator for SOE, what matters to me is that truth is not a defense for invasion of privacy, in other words defamation, you cannot hope to escape reality by claiming that forums are not bound by some laws beyond that of the forum owner.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:10:00 - [78] Edited by: Barakkus on 19/10/2009 19:12:24 Originally by: Tenokiro Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 18:57:13 Edited by: Tenokiro on 19/10/2009 18:52:17 In law, defamation also called calumny, libel (for written words), slander (for spoken words), and vilification is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always, a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant). In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts, which arises where one person reveals information that is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person. It does not matter to me that you have been a moderator for SOE, what matters to me is that truth is not a defense for invasion of privacy, in other words defamation, you cannot hope to escape reality by claiming that forums are not bound by some laws beyond that of the forum owner. Tippia - Declaration of Principles You have to prove damages, which you won't, even if I call you ****ed, which you are. Since no one knows your real name, or is presenting it as such, and will not harm you financially etc, you would have no grounds to sue. Because I think you're **ed, and it's an opinion, which I'm sure most people would come to the same conclusion, you being called ****ed gives you no legal standing to sue. Invasion of privacy? Man you're bonkers, trust me, you have absolutely no idea what you are babbling Mr. Armchair Internet Spaceship Lawyer. Oh, and stop copying and pasting from random websites that have libel and defamation of character in them, you only make yourself look stupid.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:17:00 - [79] Originally by: Tenokiro Tippia - Declaration of Principles Yes, but where. Who are "we"? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tenokiro	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:31:00 - [80] Well you can pretty much name any country in europe, even the US have signed it. I believe the specefic quote if from the meeting in Geneva in 2003 thought I may be wrong as it have been said so many times.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:38:00 - [81] Originally by: Tenokiro Well you can pretty much name any country in europe, even the US have signed it. I believe the specefic quote if from the meeting in Geneva in 2003 thought I may be wrong as it have been said so many times. So in other words, it has nothing to do with these forums or with CCP. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
JCache Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:45:00 - [82] Originally by: Ferdio Ricotez If a ninja warps in while you're still fighting, just warp out. Then return a few minutes later and you can salvage the ninja's wreck, too. That's one possibility. The other is that the ninja knows what he is doing, grabs stage aggro and pulls them all to the warp in beacon. I nearly ****ed myself when I found out that one mission runner actually fell for his own trap... Sig removed. Needs more EVE related content. Zymurgist
Yerotun	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:51:00 - [83] Edited by: Yerotun on 19/10/2009 19:54:47 INTERNET LIER,,ERRR I MEAN LAWYER CLASSES SSSHHHCCCCAAWWWWEEEETTTT SCORE HERE. idiots. and the dude trying to explain defamation, even with the definition of it right in front of you you still aren't understanding. It only comes to effect if it has a negative affect happens from the slander. I can call you a dumbass all day and nothing can be done. And to the dude thinking it was a threat, it looked more to be a question no so much saying he was going to do it. now if he had sad, where you live i am driving there now to kick your nose to the backside of your head..
Schwa88 Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.10.19 19:56:00 - [84] Originally by: Ferdio Ricotez If a ninja warps in while you're still fighting, just warp out. Then return a few minutes later and you can salvage the ninja's wreck, too. It's called speed tanking... EVE, learn how to play it. How did this thread turn to ninjas anyways? The OP was crying about can flipping or some other such nonsense that's been beaten to death already.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.10.19 22:34:00 - [85] Originally by: Huzzie ...my children needs a father... Technically speaking, if you can refer to them as "my children" then they no longer need one. This is an often misunderstood concept. From a biological standpoint, it is a one time contribution, not a ongoing one. It is sort of like when the waiter brings over your food, and there is that ackward moment when everyone realizes that there is no reason for this person to stand around waiting for someone to ask for something but the waiter must do it otherwise people will complain about the lack of service this establishment has and demand compensation from management. It is exactly like that actually.
Hot Fudge Minmatar Sweet -N- Sticky	Posted - 2009.10.20 09:11:00 - [86] Didn't know so many lawyers and/or law students played Eve. ========================= Sweet, sticky, and bad for your health.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.10.20 09:19:00 - [87] Originally by: Hot Fudge Didn't know so many lawyers and/or law students played Eve. They dont. Tenokiro doesn't know jack about the law.
Alhambra Trellane Viziam	Posted - 2009.10.20 09:33:00 - [88] "I want to play this MMO like a single player game!" Everyone else: "Yawn" "Why don't you all agree with me? You're all stupid and you're BREAKING THE LAW!!" Everyone else: " Hee hee" pokes with a stick" "I'm a 6'3" boxer who also happens to be a lawyer so don't mess with me! And don't post if you don't agree with what I say 100%!" Everyone else: "I reawwy am a lawyer! I'll sue you all! I'll sue you in the UK!" Every now and then I leave C&P to see what I'm missing. Every now and then. And you know, little by little it feels like C&P is starting to take over GD too. Feels good man. Oh and Internet Tough Guy? You're a worthless *tard whose inane spewing proves only that whatever education you once had went totally to waste. All 3 months of it. You helmet's not protecting anything even remotely useful. Your family's probably ugly and ****ed and you should die a horrible death in a fire (in game). Don't like that? Sue me.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.10.20 09:35:00 - [89] Originally by: Riedle Get it through your THICK skull, it's spelled LOSING your life. Not loosing. Wtf? is loosing anyways? v. loosed, loos+ing, loos+es v.tr. 1. To let loose; release: loosed the dogs. 2. To make loose; undo: loosed his belt. 3. To cast loose; detach: hikers loosing their packs at camp. 4. To let fly; discharge: loosed an arrow. 5. To release pressure or obligation from; absolve: loosed her from the responsibility. 6. To make less strict; relax: a leader's strong authority that was loosed by easy times. v.intr. 1. To become loose. 2. To discharge a missile; fire.
Lotus Sutra Caldari Sutra Inc	Posted - 2009.10.20 09:40:00 - [90] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Originally by: Riedle Get it through your THICK skull, it's spelled LOSING your life. Not loosing. Wtf? is loosing anyways? v. loosed, loos+ing, loos+es v.tr. 1. To let loose; release: loosed the dogs. 2. To make loose; undo: loosed his belt. 3. To cast loose; detach: hikers loosing their packs at camp. 4. To let fly; discharge: loosed an arrow. 5. To release pressure or obligation from; absolve: loosed her from the responsibility. 6. To make less strict; relax: a leader's strong authority that was loosed by easy times. v.intr. 1. To become loose. 2. To discharge a missile; fire. You know posting this will be totally futile right? The word police are so sure they are always 100% right in what they say that they will deny they are wrong or were caught out with the last breath they take. Proving they are idiots with stuff like this just makes them more sure of their rightness. I would wager most of them are either American (we are right, even when we are wrong) or English (we will never admit defeat, we will fight them with our colostomy bags if we must, but we shall never admit defeat)! ------------------------------------------------ I got married Oct. 18th. I'm on my honeymoon. Yes I brought the laptop. Yes I am playing EVE. What?

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