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Greg6	Posted - 2009.10.22 15:32:00 - [31] No, I'm exactly right. The POS is still there, isn't it? All we had to do was hold off our attacking the pos until the war decs were in and the 24 hour period had started. Then we hit the POS, drive it into reinforce mode, and 24 hours later take it out whatever they do in terms of FW membership. But we couldn't wait. They put some bait out there, we took it, and then they removed it from our jaws and made it untouchable. It was obvious that they would do so and more than one of us predicted just that before they did it. We had an available counter to their doing so, but we couldn't be bothered to enact it. At the end of the day they have what they wanted, at this moment, and we don't. But we're calling it a win for us? That looks silly from where I sit.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2009.10.22 15:45:00 - [32] At the end of the day, we have what we wanted... the removal of a Caldari Militia POS from Villore. Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.22 15:54:00 - [33] \o/ High-Sec POS warfare! There's nothing stopping any militia from setting up neutral POSes in all important high sec regions. Make sure you put your alt corp into an alt alliance so that when you are eventually found out and war dec'd, you can leave the alliance. Then rep the POS and take it down before you lose anything important. Create a new alt corp and then lather, rinse, repeat. Better yet, find a buddy in a high-sec ganking pvp alliance and get your alt corp into there. Free war decs for them.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.22 16:03:00 - [34] Edited by: chatgris on 22/10/2009 16:03:44 Originally by: Greg6 All we had to do was hold off our attacking the pos until the war decs were in and the 24 hour period had started. Then we hit the POS, drive it into reinforce mode, and 24 hours later take it out whatever they do in terms of FW membership. But we couldn't wait. And give them another day of waving their epeen in villore? Not likely. The options were: a) Wait for a bunch of corps with afk ceo's to get war decs started giving pervs more time to smack talk in Villore local, then fully take it down. b) Kill it the next day at the very least forcing the corp out of the militia, possibly killing it if the pervs had any balls (and they were able to set the exact time it came out of reinforced too for their prime time). Caldari fw pos in Villore one day, no caldari fw pos in villore the next. Better than multiple days of caldari fw pos in villore while a bunch of disorganized corps get war decs in and we say "but we're doing it smart". Definitely a victory in my eyes, the caldari were the ones waving their epeen around and then getting it stuck in an industrial fan. We just came to call their bluff. And that corp is STILL not back into the caldari militia days later.
Greg6	Posted - 2009.10.22 16:19:00 - [35] Like they've stopped waving their epeen around now? :) Honestly, I can see the point of doing it either way, but calling the status quo a clear win for us just matches their own silly epeen waving with some phallic flapping of our own. When the POS is gone, as in destroyed, we can say we won. Right now? It's far from clear.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.22 16:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Greg6 Like they've stopped waving their epeen around now? :) Yeah but now everybody knows it's a short little mushroom looking thing.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.22 16:28:00 - [37] Originally by: Greg6 Like they've stopped waving their epeen around now? :) A lot less than before. And I personally find their continued smack a lot funnier now that they've run :) And there were a few gf gallente conciliatory posts before BM stepped up and started the smack again. Originally by: Greg6 Honestly, I can see the point of doing it either way, but calling the status quo a clear win for us just matches their own silly epeen waving with some phallic flapping of our own. When the POS is gone, as in destroyed, we can say we won. Right now? It's far from clear. I agree it could be better, but the status quo (corp with pos out of fw) is better than it was (corp with pos in fw). Hence a win. Not the win, which takes time to coordinate us rabble with one war dec, but a win. They are at the very least hiding from the general militia swarm that Bacardi can drum up that can never war dec them while the rest of us stumble around with afk ceo's.
GavinGoodrich	Posted - 2009.10.22 17:26:00 - [38] PERVS really should just put the POS corp back into militia, offline all guns, and let the gallente resume finishing the job. Or you can pretty much deflate your highsec epeen now, and expect -0- support from the majority of the squids. Good luck with your campaign against 60+ battleships in a Federation fleet without us, PERVS.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.10.22 18:27:00 - [39] Originally by: GavinGoodrich PERVS really should just put the POS corp back into militia, offline all guns, and let the gallente resume finishing the job. Or you can pretty much deflate your highsec epeen now, and expect -0- support from the majority of the squids. Good luck with your campaign against 60+ battleships in a Federation fleet without us, PERVS. LOL @ pervs withdrawng their alt corp from FW to save it. also testing sig.
Corewin NoD Imperium	Posted - 2009.10.22 19:04:00 - [40] For the love of god can we stop with the angst concerning this POS being removed from militia and its obvious reentry at some point? Obvious valid tactic is obvious. End of story. You know how to beat it, so do it. If you don't like that course of action, by all means ignore it and let the PERVs have their way with yonder buttocksesss.
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.22 21:57:00 - [41] Originally by: GavinGoodrich PERVS really should just put the POS corp back into militia, offline all guns, and let the gallente resume finishing the job. Or you can pretty much deflate your highsec epeen now, and expect -0- support from the majority of the squids. Good luck with your campaign against 60+ battleships in a Federation fleet without us, PERVS. You really think that we counted on general militia help? No we did not. We just offer good possibility to fight but you did not want to do that. Gallente failed to kill that pos and offer possibility to rep it back. Gallente failure made us change our plans. POS corporation already got lot of wardecs and we sold it to people who know what to do with those
Chin Tofat	Posted - 2009.10.22 22:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Bad Messenger Originally by: GavinGoodrich PERVS really should just put the POS corp back into militia, offline all guns, and let the gallente resume finishing the job. Or you can pretty much deflate your highsec epeen now, and expect -0- support from the majority of the squids. Good luck with your campaign against 60+ battleships in a Federation fleet without us, PERVS. You really think that we counted on general militia help? No we did not. We just offer good possibility to fight but you did not want to do that. Gallente failed to kill that pos and offer possibility to rep it back. Gallente failure made us change our plans. POS corporation already got lot of wardecs and we sold it to people who know what to do with those This makes me chuckle... ive seen (on my travels through Villore) the Pervs smacking local about their POS.. fair enough.. wasnt a bad idea, a bit dubious about how it bends the game mechanics but clever none the less. Now apparenltly a Gal fleet gives it a proper once over with just battleships on a POS that SHOULD have been a nightmare to kill... where were the pervs at that time? god only knows.. camping a station to get a few lone kills. Not very impressive then really. And this is where it goes from the sublime to the ridiculous. You now claim that the Gallente couldnt kill it... because you withdrew it from FW? Do you presume that the majority of people who read this dont understand POS mecahnics? Strikes me that you are making a total ass of yourself sir... take it on the chin and swallow a little pride over the fact that the POS would have been lost with no question had you not withdrawn that corp, and all the self satisfied gloating in the world will not hide that the majority of people who DO understand POS mechanics probably see this post as little more than Pi** and wind.
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.22 23:31:00 - [43] Originally by: Chin Tofat Originally by: Bad Messenger Originally by: GavinGoodrich PERVS really should just put the POS corp back into militia, offline all guns, and let the gallente resume finishing the job. Or you can pretty much deflate your highsec epeen now, and expect -0- support from the majority of the squids. Good luck with your campaign against 60+ battleships in a Federation fleet without us, PERVS. You really think that we counted on general militia help? No we did not. We just offer good possibility to fight but you did not want to do that. Gallente failed to kill that pos and offer possibility to rep it back. Gallente failure made us change our plans. POS corporation already got lot of wardecs and we sold it to people who know what to do with those This makes me chuckle... ive seen (on my travels through Villore) the Pervs smacking local about their POS.. fair enough.. wasnt a bad idea, a bit dubious about how it bends the game mechanics but clever none the less. Now apparenltly a Gal fleet gives it a proper once over with just battleships on a POS that SHOULD have been a nightmare to kill... where were the pervs at that time? god only knows.. camping a station to get a few lone kills. Not very impressive then really. And this is where it goes from the sublime to the ridiculous. You now claim that the Gallente couldnt kill it... because you withdrew it from FW? Do you presume that the majority of people who read this dont understand POS mecahnics? Strikes me that you are making a total ass of yourself sir... take it on the chin and swallow a little pride over the fact that the POS would have been lost with no question had you not withdrawn that corp, and all the self satisfied gloating in the world will not hide that the majority of people who DO understand POS mechanics probably see this post as little more than Pi** and wind. They sure got it reinforced. But pos is still there. Gallente had power to put it reinforced but brute force was not enough when planning was incompetent. Whole thing in fw is tactic not a numbers and biggest ships.
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2009.10.23 07:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Plus a timer counting for Caldari with no Caldari in sight. People started to wonder how come that the Caldari could capture everything back in an hour and why plexes didn't respawn until downtime, you know. Perhaps the plexes dont respawn because Gallentes bug them so they run down and get "captured" but system does not register them as captured so it stays behind as "ghost plex" as 22nd started calling them. Why, this morning i've encountered few and all near systems where certain person (let's call her Ms. A) was flying around. Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.10.23 08:21:00 - [45] shut up damar, do you not get tired listening to yourself? This is about Pervs (alt corp) putting pos up in Villore. In what was an EPIC move. Real kudos for having the balls to put up a pos in a gall high sec system (ok so it was only 0.5 but still a first). Real Kudos for the galls to come together and put the pos into reinforced, then the shame of Pervs (alt corp) withdrawing from the militia to save it. I think most people would have though Pervs would have seen it through to say they did it, killed stuff and made it a propaganda victory to those outside of Pervs. But somewhere in their command they took the choice to leave and save the POS, yes they can come back and try again, yes the galls could have war dec'ed the POS corp.. but that wasn't the initial plan I'm sure. It was to get fights and gall brought the fight, likely more than Pervs expected, I know more than we expected. And the job was done. In what would have been the most bravado move in FW to date, was undone at the end. In quite a sad measure.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.23 09:21:00 - [46] I heard that Caldari is in Villore killing your militia STILL? c/d? "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.23 09:28:00 - [47] Originally by: Damar Rocarion Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Plus a timer counting for Caldari with no Caldari in sight. People started to wonder how come that the Caldari could capture everything back in an hour and why plexes didn't respawn until downtime, you know. Perhaps the plexes dont respawn because Gallentes bug them so they run down and get "captured" but system does not register them as captured so it stays behind as "ghost plex" as 22nd started calling them. Why, this morning i've encountered few and all near systems where certain person (let's call her Ms. A) was flying around. Damar Rocarion Brigadier General It seems that our Villore pos was good for fw like some gallente said when we asked why they started to plex again "we have been emboldened by the humiliating PERV POS episode in Villore". But the fact that you can find lot of ghost plexes is not a suprise after Anhk told in gallente militia chat how to exploit those efficiently.
Patso Tappaja Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.23 09:30:00 - [48] Another post how terrible we are. We dont play fair. We dont fight fair. Still we are managing to kill your spirit. This Sig doesnt lack eve-online material THIS time.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.10.23 10:00:00 - [49] Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 23/10/2009 10:01:02 Props to Pervs for the POS op, props for killing in villore, props for killing no stop. No smacking here about that. Shame at your leadership for pulling the alt corp out. Putting the POS up was a MASSIVE and FANTASTIC move for Pervs, leaving FW when it looked like it was lost was a MASSIVE fail and destroyed all the kudos you were getting from other people. Of course you don't care about other people, but I'm sure, privately, you know and your leaders know it could have ended much better. Even losing the POS and putting another up (better set up next time) would have kept you on a high, but alas your leaders went with "safer" option. And you know if you do it again you will just get laughed at, where if you had seen it through (win or lose) you would/could have destroyed gallente moral in Villore any way. But now gallente can just smack you for withdrawing.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.23 11:03:00 - [50] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Real Kudos for the galls to come together and put the pos into reinforced Originally by: Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
olzi Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.10.23 11:58:00 - [51] Best 550M ever spent.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.23 14:28:00 - [52] And now the corporation is hiding in an alliance. Oh wait, sorry, it was "sold".
kunniz	Posted - 2009.10.23 15:09:00 - [53] Edited by: kunniz on 23/10/2009 15:10:11 So now it is too scary to attack the pos? :(
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.23 15:47:00 - [54] Originally by: Bad Messenger It seems that our Villore pos was good for fw like some gallente said when we asked why they started to plex again "we have been emboldened by the humiliating PERV POS episode in Villore". /me responsible for that sarcastic quote. First I apologize for leaving the "S" off of PERVS. I've seen some people out plexing, but not me lately. As proof, we didn't attempt to cap the plex even after the PERVS alt bailed. There were three plexes in system. I checked the large ones and my gangmate entered the minor in his frig because I told him he could probably get an afk plexing alt kill like the one I got in Aldranette yesterday morning against Emperor Throne Guard alt (plex not capped then either). Unfortunately Per Cepano (alt of ??) ran (of course) even though under every circumstance a frig should have a competitive advantage in a defensive plex - especially against another frig. This morning I bum rushed a medium plex with a Tristan near Frarie. Again, the Caldari frig pilot had all the reason in the world to stay and fight. In fact I was in 50% structure before I was within 40 km of him or the button. Free kill for him, but he bailed. And that pretty much sums up the current state of plexing "warfare". I'll keep entering the plexes to give you guys a chance for a fight and likely free kills, but don't expect me to stick around to orbit a button once you bail. Gotta use that time to make isk running missions. :p
Greg6	Posted - 2009.10.23 15:54:00 - [55] Oh, I don't know, it seems to me like pulling the pos corp out of FW was the plan all along. It certainly was what a few of us assumed the plan was, thus we wanted to have war decs in place before attacking it. Dunno folk it's hard for me to see this as much of a victory for the Galls, given that. We have done just what the Pervs expected us to, the POS is still there, and given the alliance that they have given/sold it to it may very stay there for a while. The pervs made a plan and then we helped them to enact it. They get a POS in Villore high sec, all the killing associated with it, and it's still there. We get to tell ourselves we made it, "retreat," when doing so was their plan all along, I'd guess. Right now it's pretty clear to me that we haven't done much. When and if the POS is gone we can say we won. Until then we look just as silly saying we made it "retreat," as Damar does with most of his smack, IMHO. Put up or shut up, Gallente. I'd be happy to help take the POS out but right now we've done little but follow the Pervs script from where I sit.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2009.10.23 16:17:00 - [56] Sooo it was their plan all along to rattle the sabre, run away from the fight and then offload it into an alliance? **** me backwards man, you're a bit of an Oswald Mosley aren't you? Fact... they deployed a military asset into Villore. Fact... when we gathered a fleet to put it into reinforced, they bailed out of FW. Fact... no more Caldari POS' in Gallente space; we held the field. If you're going to whine about how bad the Gallente are, can you either do it privately or just bugger off and join the squids? Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.23 16:17:00 - [57] Sorry Greg, Gallente put up and the POS is no longer the big e-peen symbol they wanted it to be. PERVS (with an "S") failed. Win whether you think so or not. The rest is cheesy empire war dec mechanics at their best. Feel free to play the boring and tedious shell game if you want. Eve is a sandbox afterall.
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2009.10.23 16:22:00 - [58] Originally by: Patso Tappaja Still we are managing to kill your spirit. Guys! My spirit k/d ratio!
Greg6	Posted - 2009.10.23 16:32:00 - [59] Yep, it was their plan all along to pull the POS off of FW when it went into reinforced mode, as was predicted by a number of us. Not hard to see. Fact, the POS is still there. Until that changes the rest is all sophistry. If that bothers you, and if one of your own pointing out the obvious inspires you to call names and ask those folk to leave your side, you only illustrate the weakness of your position. When a win happens it is clear. The POS is still there, and that's pretty clear. They can still use it for everything the could use it for before, other than shooting at FW targets with the POS guns. They had a plan that was obvious, and enacted it. And the POS is still there. If we destroy it then it will be clear that we won and I'll be among the first to say so. But don't expect me to say the emperor is dressed when his ass is hanging out, no matter how much the court insist he's wearing fine robes.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.23 16:37:00 - [60] Edited by: chatgris on 23/10/2009 16:38:44 Originally by: Greg6 Yep, it was their plan all along to pull the POS off of FW when it went into reinforced mode, as was predicted by a number of us. Not hard to see. **ty plan at that really. It wasn't so much their plan but the only way to save their asses/face once they were beat. Anyone can have an alt pos anywhere (0.7 and below) and configure the shield access to let them in, what they did that was so different was to put it into the caldari militia and crow about owning villore, and that was stopped. Originally by:** Rashmika Clavain If you're going to whine about how bad the Gallente are, can you either do it privately or just bugger off and join the squids? This.

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