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Dark Shikari	Posted - 2004.10.31 22:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/10/2004 22:55:32 Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/10/2004 22:53:06 Throughout the history of EVE, great alliances have risen and fallen. And now that I'm back after 4 months away from EVE--I notice something--there are too many alliances! What used to be just a couple in the Venal region has exploded and now there are new alliances all over. So here's my question: which one dies next? Honestly it seems like FA may be the next major alliance to go--while they are still powerful they seem far weaker than in the days when m0o laid siege to YZ-LQL and they are losing allies every day it seems (at least BoB is back with them however)... but what really scares me is SA and CA. Both are now the most powerful alliances and they almost seem to be circling over FA like vultures... -- The best description of alliances, ever:
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2004.10.31 22:45:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/10/2004 22:55:32 Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/10/2004 22:53:06 Throughout the history of EVE, great alliances have risen and fallen. And now that I'm back after 4 months away from EVE--I notice something--there are too many alliances! What used to be just a couple in the Venal region has exploded and now there are new alliances all over. So here's my question: which one dies next? Honestly it seems like FA may be the next major alliance to go--while they are still powerful they seem far weaker than in the days when m0o laid siege to YZ-LQL and they are losing allies every day it seems (at least BoB is back with them however)... but what really scares me is SA and CA. Both are now the most powerful alliances and they almost seem to be circling over FA like vultures... -- The best description of alliances, ever:
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.10.31 22:51:00 - [3] BoB pulled out of FA space, so u might want to alter ur prediction ;D Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.10.31 22:51:00 - [4] BoB pulled out of FA space, so u might want to alter ur prediction ;D Reverend Necrona
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2004.10.31 22:52:00 - [5] Originally by: Reverend Necrona BoB pulled out of FA space, so u might want to alter ur prediction ;D They finally did? Phew... at least for FA -- The best description of alliances, ever:
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2004.10.31 22:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Reverend Necrona BoB pulled out of FA space, so u might want to alter ur prediction ;D They finally did? Phew... at least for FA -- The best description of alliances, ever:
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Reverend Necrona BoB pulled out of FA space, so u might want to alter ur prediction ;D They finally did? Phew... at least for FA finally after 14 hours....
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Reverend Necrona BoB pulled out of FA space, so u might want to alter ur prediction ;D They finally did? Phew... at least for FA finally after 14 hours....
Waldorf	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:31:00 - [9] lol :D
Waldorf	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:31:00 - [10] lol :D
Hquesinovium	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:47:00 - [11] Damn, i was hoping to help BoB out kill some more greedy FA... Quote: I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
Hquesinovium	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:47:00 - [12] Damn, i was hoping to help BoB out kill some more greedy FA... Quote: I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
fugazii	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:55:00 - [13] fa isnt goin to be the nxt alliance to go, imo thier superior shiva preparedness will once shiva hits make them the most powerfull alliance, ca putting the 20% tax in place is a start for shiva but w/many corps leaving over it they r far behind, sa well the last thing they needed before shiva to hit was the fighting w/celest which hampers thier shiva fund not to mention the constant attacks from ca. xetic has been hit hard by the ca invasions and for extended periods of time not having controll of immensea region, though since before ca they had nvr had ne wars so they r very rich shiva will only make thier power grow. pa isnt gonna find shiva very fun. tps will stay at same power as they hav no full on wars goin. nsa/fu might feel some pressure from the pb pirates but they dont hav the numbers to do ne significant dmg to them. norad they rnt doin to good from internal issues but they hav no alliance wars so they shouldnt be hurting to badly from outside sources its within they should be warry of. jqa theyre jst chillin gettin richer and richer not needing player owned stations cuz theres stations in all thier systems shiva wont pose as much ofa threat to them as ne other givin alliance. all in all the most powerfull alliances imo once shiva comes round will be: 1) fa 2) sa/xetic 3) c4/ca 4) tps 5) fu 6) nsa 7) jqa 8) norad
fugazii	Posted - 2004.10.31 23:55:00 - [14] fa isnt goin to be the nxt alliance to go, imo thier superior shiva preparedness will once shiva hits make them the most powerfull alliance, ca putting the 20% tax in place is a start for shiva but w/many corps leaving over it they r far behind, sa well the last thing they needed before shiva to hit was the fighting w/celest which hampers thier shiva fund not to mention the constant attacks from ca. xetic has been hit hard by the ca invasions and for extended periods of time not having controll of immensea region, though since before ca they had nvr had ne wars so they r very rich shiva will only make thier power grow. pa isnt gonna find shiva very fun. tps will stay at same power as they hav no full on wars goin. nsa/fu might feel some pressure from the pb pirates but they dont hav the numbers to do ne significant dmg to them. norad they rnt doin to good from internal issues but they hav no alliance wars so they shouldnt be hurting to badly from outside sources its within they should be warry of. jqa theyre jst chillin gettin richer and richer not needing player owned stations cuz theres stations in all thier systems shiva wont pose as much ofa threat to them as ne other givin alliance. all in all the most powerfull alliances imo once shiva comes round will be: 1) fa 2) sa/xetic 3) c4/ca 4) tps 5) fu 6) nsa 7) jqa 8) norad
EveJunkie	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:09:00 - [15] I actually think there arent enough allainces. Big allainces are all well and good but it makes for a less intresting political map. IMO it would be more fun if each and every region was controled by a different allaince. There would be more wars and probably smaller blobs. TBH an allaince doesnt really need more than 1 region anyway most of the space is never used, even with the POS in shiva an alliance is unlikely to use all its available space.
EveJunkie	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:09:00 - [16] I actually think there arent enough allainces. Big allainces are all well and good but it makes for a less intresting political map. IMO it would be more fun if each and every region was controled by a different allaince. There would be more wars and probably smaller blobs. TBH an allaince doesnt really need more than 1 region anyway most of the space is never used, even with the POS in shiva an alliance is unlikely to use all its available space.
Arud	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:17:00 - [17] FA, SA and CA are here to stay for good I think, most likely Xetic as well. Their only weakness is falling apart from the inside. The alliances in the north on the other hand are smaller and are alot more likely to fall through outside forces and ofcorse falling apart from the inside is still a possibility.
Arud	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:17:00 - [18] FA, SA and CA are here to stay for good I think, most likely Xetic as well. Their only weakness is falling apart from the inside. The alliances in the north on the other hand are smaller and are alot more likely to fall through outside forces and ofcorse falling apart from the inside is still a possibility.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Arud FA, SA and CA are here to stay for good I think, most likely Xetic as well. Their only weakness is falling apart from the inside. The alliances in the north on the other hand are smaller and are alot more likely to fall through outside forces and ofcorse falling apart from the inside is still a possibility. Well here's what I see... if SA/CA decide to minimize their own fighting while going after FA... I don't think FA's allies will stay with them... and FA will die. -- The best description of alliances, ever:
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:32:00 - [20] Originally by: Arud FA, SA and CA are here to stay for good I think, most likely Xetic as well. Their only weakness is falling apart from the inside. The alliances in the north on the other hand are smaller and are alot more likely to fall through outside forces and ofcorse falling apart from the inside is still a possibility. Well here's what I see... if SA/CA decide to minimize their own fighting while going after FA... I don't think FA's allies will stay with them... and FA will die. -- The best description of alliances, ever:
SweatySack	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:39:00 - [21] POS are gona be important but I dont think people realize how vulnerable they will be. You get a squad of 20 BS and that things gone in 45 min or less. Might lose 1...maybe 2 BS to its defenses. Not a bad deal considering a full POS will be a lot more than 200mil to build and maintain.
SweatySack	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:39:00 - [22] POS are gona be important but I dont think people realize how vulnerable they will be. You get a squad of 20 BS and that things gone in 45 min or less. Might lose 1...maybe 2 BS to its defenses. Not a bad deal considering a full POS will be a lot more than 200mil to build and maintain.
Zelota	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:39:00 - [23] sa and ca fighting fa will never hapen.Every body is so focused on killing echoter in the south,no body even takes time to think about any thing.sa come to curse and pop 4 bs curse goes to stain and pops 4 bs and it keeps on going like this all day long.So for get it fa will be the most powerfull alliance in game if they arent stoped Vid of the week
Zelota	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:39:00 - [24] sa and ca fighting fa will never hapen.Every body is so focused on killing echoter in the south,no body even takes time to think about any thing.sa come to curse and pop 4 bs curse goes to stain and pops 4 bs and it keeps on going like this all day long.So for get it fa will be the most powerfull alliance in game if they arent stoped Vid of the week
Leno	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:51:00 - [25] Originally by: SweatySack POS are gona be important but I dont think people realize how vulnerable they will be. You get a squad of 20 BS and that things gone in 45 min or less. Might lose 1...maybe 2 BS to its defenses. Not a bad deal considering a full POS will be a lot more than 200mil to build and maintain. as i recall, they have backup services or whatever after it taken down all the way, that keep the POS up until it is replenished, which can last for quite a long time. --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Leno	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:51:00 - [26] Originally by: SweatySack POS are gona be important but I dont think people realize how vulnerable they will be. You get a squad of 20 BS and that things gone in 45 min or less. Might lose 1...maybe 2 BS to its defenses. Not a bad deal considering a full POS will be a lot more than 200mil to build and maintain. as i recall, they have backup services or whatever after it taken down all the way, that keep the POS up until it is replenished, which can last for quite a long time. --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Celticjim	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:52:00 - [27] Edited by: Celticjim on 01/11/2004 00:55:04 This is just spec, but given importance on economics, if any of the purely "manufacturing/mining/trade" corps with a large wallet join with a competent pvp group, it could lead to some interesting possibilities. There would be issues to hash out between the structural components of the corps, but if it could be rectified....it might lead to EveJunkie's wish to have more alliances in game. Unfortunately, I don't really know of any concrete examples CJ (edit) Got the name wrong of the Evolution member.
Celticjim	Posted - 2004.11.01 00:52:00 - [28] Edited by: Celticjim on 01/11/2004 00:55:04 This is just spec, but given importance on economics, if any of the purely "manufacturing/mining/trade" corps with a large wallet join with a competent pvp group, it could lead to some interesting possibilities. There would be issues to hash out between the structural components of the corps, but if it could be rectified....it might lead to EveJunkie's wish to have more alliances in game. Unfortunately, I don't really know of any concrete examples CJ (edit) Got the name wrong of the Evolution member.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.11.01 01:01:00 - [29] I think people severely underestimate the wallet size of the bigger and established pvp corporations out there. I also think those corporations don't mind that at all.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.11.01 01:01:00 - [30] I think people severely underestimate the wallet size of the bigger and established pvp corporations out there. I also think those corporations don't mind that at all.

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