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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.23 23:51:00 -
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 Originally by: SuiJuris
Apparently 5 Guardians + 4 Basilisk = 13 Logistics ships. No wonder they call defeats victories and think trading 5 carriers for 1 HAC 2 Battleships and assorted other stuffs is a victory they can't do simple addition.
We clearly lost. You clearly won. Like you say you didn't have unified coms so you obviously miscounted how many ships you had but so what?
All that matters is that today, few stood against many.
Today we lost. But it took the combined might of two nations to achieve that defeat. Time will tell if "Fortress Kamela" is truly breached and we'll see if No.Mercy have regained the confidence to travel in heavy-hulled ships through the warzone again.
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Posted - 2009.10.23 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
All that matters is that today, few stood against many.
Today we lost. But it took the combined might of two nations to achieve that defeat. Time will tell if "Fortress Kamela" is truly breached and we'll see if No.Mercy have regained the confidence to travel in heavy-hulled ships through the warzone again.
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Ol'summer bedLinen
Amarr
The Lost Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:00:00 -
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jasmine/jade is right. they lost to 10-1 if you count the number of drones we had on the field. We also had 13 logistics including armor repair drones.
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Geonin
Amarr
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
we'll see if No.Mercy have regained the confidence to travel in heavy-hulled ships through the warzone again.
Don't we do this on a daily basis like as often as possible?
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Geonin
Don't we do this on a daily basis like as often as possible?
Not really no.
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Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:31:00 -
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Amarr Victor!
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr Victor!
I'd say a celebration is in order. Anyone care to suggest a time and place?
I'm guessing ... docked in a station in Ohide.
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Jeff Anderson
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jeff Anderson on 24/10/2009 00:56:07
Edited by: Jeff Anderson on 24/10/2009 00:54:03
No matter what excuse SF uses for the loss, the reality is the Amarr Faction War camp is sick of SF wardecing random faction war corps and picking them off from our fleets.
Today we spoke loud and clear, if you want to interfere with our fleets, our fleets will fight back.
Sig: Miners supply the ore that the Industrialists use to build the ships you PVP/E with so please think of them as your ship blows up from the enhanced PVP/E in EVE. We know CCP hasn't.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jeff Anderson
No matter what excuse SF uses for the loss, the reality is the Amarr Faction War camp is sick of SF wardecing random faction war corps and picking them off from our fleets.
Who is making excuses? We lost.
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Today we spoke loud and clear, if you want to interfere with our fleets, our fleets will fight back.
Does this mean you are actually going to attack us in lowsec again more regularly then? Or only when you have the Caldari holding your hands?
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Baruc
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.24 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Or only when you have the Caldari holding your hands?
When have you fought a large battle without the Minmatar holding yours?
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
We lost.
Yes you did, so get off your "high horse" already.
YOU are the weakest link
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Baruc
Yes you did, so get off your "high horse" already.
YOU are the weakest link
Then I guess this means your battleship fleet will be prepared to leave dock range in Hisec Ohide then this week? I'll look forward to that. You've dealt us a deadly blow - would be a shame if you couldn't manage to take advantage and advance on "fortress" kamela. We're on the back foot now - you need to up the pressure.
I promise you Baruc - when you manage to bring decisive pressure and suppress our operations in Kamela round the clock you'll hear me praise your efforts. You have all the advantages now - our heads are down and the Freespacer cause stands in peril. Must be time to strike -surely?
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 01:26:00 -
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There is no excuse needed or sought by us. This is a clear defeat for us.
Had roles been reversed, I'm bound to say we would also have treated our foes with rather more grace and acknowledged their bravery.
I certainly don't minimise the victory of the Amarr and Caldari on this occasion. Garst Tyrell does that himself by the manner in which he has described it and the slurs he has chosen to use.
In the final analysis, Garst Tyrell's crude attempts at psywar and transparent desire to drive a wedge between us and the Minmatar will avail him little. I laugh at a shallow little man who thinks he improves upon his victory undoubted by boorish ranting.
If the 24th Imperial Crusade thinks this will dissuade us from attacking them they are sadly deluded. Further, the Caldari State Protectorate can be assured we will remember well their intervention here and when it is least convenient for them we will remind them of it.
A blow that would have crushed certain of our recent foes outright will only strengthen our resolve. That is the difference between us and a militia that even in victory bleats and lows like a great horde of sheep and cattle.
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DarthDeaconRage
Red Sky Morning
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Posted - 2009.10.24 01:32:00 -
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NONE SHALL WITHSTAND OUR FAITH!
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Biff D'Roids
Minmatar
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:04:00 -
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Whats missing from this thread is a rough rundown of what happened.
Amarr fleet jumped into Kamela from Sosala. A Star Fraction pilot tackled and attacked one of their war targets within our fleet, the SF pilot was popped by their target but not before SF had warped in Carriers and other ships. Amarr fleet decided to help their fleet members at war with SF and attacked.
During the early part of the fight Caldari and Minmatar jumped in and engaged their respective foes. A Minmatar Moros arrived on the scene and in response Caldari brought in a couple of dreads. The whole time the Amarr and SF were battling it out with Minmatar attempting to help SF and Caldari helping Amarr.
Minmatar became timid and retreated leaving SF and the Minmatar Moros to their destruction. This ended it for SF with them suffering devistating losses.
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Koronakesh
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Had roles been reversed, I'm bound to say we would also have treated our foes with rather more grace and acknowledged their bravery.
I find myself unable to quite believe this. More specifically, I find myself doubting a certain couple of pilots' ability to do so, given so well-known a speaking record to the contrary.
Regardless, it's a nice event, but five carriers won't exactly cripple the Fractionists, and I wouldn't be surprised if all the pilots who lost one are already in new ones.
So, personally I shall simply note it down as a good day and move along. There's a lot of work left to do, and it doesn't leave me much time to rabble on about this.
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Dame Death
Minmatar
Beyond Our Sins
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:13:00 -
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First off Baruc nothing and I mean nothing should be out of range of that many Loggitics on a shrot range battlefield so they either fail or hate you I'm guesssing both.
Secondly yeh you killed six caps so what? there be replaced and ready for war withen the week and I'm guessing the sf pilots have lots of nice little kill rights to use.
Thirdly Even when your back up Arived more caps stayed on the fiedl I know for a fact the dread had a few chances to get away and am gusessing the carriers did too. In stead of this... well I'm going to have to say it "Smack fest" you should be given your Congratulations for having Balls and thanks for a good fight.
Last but not least kudos to yos for proving the reason me and Nauticaa both repspect him and being the only amarr or caldari to drop a moros in whith that surrport fleet if it had been the other way round a lot of Matari would of stepped up yet only one Amarr did? Well meh guess it comes down to fighting for god or for freedom I have done both and known wh
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Garst Tyrell
Amarr
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:14:00 -
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caldari didnt have dreams, sam showed up in his moros at the very end to battle jodo's moros
Theres no psywar here, just a rousing tale of captains pushed too far by an oppressive alliance, self proclaimed tyrants trying to lock down a system and its resources, attempting to prevent other capsuleers from using it, and the people rising up and striking down this serpent, again and again, the deathblow to come. The end is near Fraction, and there will be much rejoicing.
If you want to delay the inevitable, I suggest you have someone other than Jade FC.
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SuiJuris
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:17:00 -
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Edited by: SuiJuris on 24/10/2009 02:21:26
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
I promise you Baruc - when you manage to bring decisive pressure and suppress our operations in Kamela round the clock you'll hear me praise your efforts. You have all the advantages now - our heads are down and the Freespacer cause stands in peril. Must be time to strike -surely?
Why would we bother spending the time or effort to "suppress" you guys round the clock, for the most part your puny amount of influence on the faction warfare seen can be completely Ignored. I have been in Corps at war with SF nonstop for about 4 months and have lost 1 ship to you. That ship was a Abaddon I jumped into a SF camp on orders from a FC who was a spy and misreported your numbers then abandoned me. I write it off as my fault for trusting someone so new to the Militia.
Other then that 1 Ship I have zero other losses to SF, in 4 months, 2 of those months I spent in a Euro corp where I was basically flying solo in the US Timezone. To sum it up. You guys fail.
Furthermore 90% of your kills against Our corp no Mercy come from a Lone SF or 2 hiding inside a minnie blob and taking a pot shot at a ship already going down. Where as aside from this battle here, Our kills against you come 1 Corp vs Alliance, and we come out ontop time and time again.
But go on continue to talk like you actually accomplish anything, Considering your top killer FOR THE WEEK, has a grand total of 7 kills. I get more then that almost EVERYTIME I undock a ship for PvP.
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Dame Death
Minmatar
Beyond Our Sins
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Biff D'Roids
Whats missing from this thread is a rough rundown of what happened.
Amarr fleet jumped into Kamela from Sosala. A Star Fraction pilot tackled and attacked one of their war targets within our fleet, the SF pilot was popped by their target but not before SF had warped in Carriers and other ships. Amarr fleet decided to help their fleet members at war with SF and attacked.
During the early part of the fight Caldari and Minmatar jumped in and engaged their respective foes. A Minmatar Moros arrived on the scene and in response Caldari brought in a couple of dreads. The whole time the Amarr and SF were battling it out with Minmatar attempting to help SF and Caldari helping Amarr.
Minmatar became timid and retreated leaving SF and the Minmatar Moros to their destruction. This ended it for SF with them suffering devistating losses.
No caldari Capital;s entered the Feield I have this on cionfirmed intlel you guys where too scared I have fought you before know your cry like babys when Dt hotdrops you so very much doubt you even have a cap fleet to speak off dispite your numbers. Stop trying to play with the big boys until you can.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/10/2009 02:35:35
Originally by: SuiJuris
Why would we bother spending the time or effort to "suppress" you guys round the clock,
Maybe the same reason your mouthpiece Garst needed to summon the entirety of the Caldari and Amarrian militias to fight 10 Star Fraction pilots this evening and declare a great victory over "Fortress Kamela".
You can't in one voice declare what utter cataclysmic shattering triumph you achieved in (and I directly quote your leader here) "BREACHING FORTRESS KAMELA" and then in the next say you didn't want to fly battleships anywhere within 10 jumps of our forces during the rest of the week.
Every time we've fought - (win or lose I hasten to add) it ends up with No.Mercy hiding in Ohide hisec. Isn't it about time you made a serious effort to make good on your boasts and actually attempt to drive us from the lowsec capital system of the 24th Crusade?
Flitting through the system in Interceptors isn't convincing.
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SuiJuris
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:36:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/10/2009 02:28:09
Originally by: SuiJuris
Why would we bother spending the time or effort to "suppress" you guys round the clock,
Maybe the same reason your mouthpiece Garst needed to summon the entirety of the Caldari and Amarrian militias to fight 10 Star Fraction pilots this even and declare a great victory over "Fortress Kamela".
You can't in one voice declare what utter cataclysmic shattering triumph you achieved in (and I directly quote your leader here) "BREACHING FORTRESS KAMELA" and then in the next say you didn't want to fly battleships anywhere within 10 jumps of our forces during the rest of the week.
Every time we've fought - (win or lose I hasten to add) it ends up with No.Mercy hiding in Ohide hisec. Isn't it about time you made a serious effort to make good on your boasts and actually attempt to drive us from the lowsec capital system of the 24th Crusade?
Flitting through the system in Interceptors isn't convincing.
LOL, once again, we have absolutely no reason to spend the effort to "drive you out of the system" With the game mechanics as they currently are, you being allowed to anchor POS's inside Amarr Militia space and Dock in FW stations, there isn't anyway to do that. Sure we could go blow your pos up, but its a big fat waste of time. It would cost you next to nothing and you would have another one anchored within hours of it being destroyed. All in all it would take you less time to anchor a new one and less money to buy a new one then the amount of money we would spend on amunition.
As far as your other comment, about us cowering in Hisec. Some pilots dock up in our home system to go mostly afk or take a break for food and the majority of us leave to go do other stuff, seing our reduced numbers in system you promptly camp the undock of a station the current occupants don't care to leave then declare it a victory.
The other day after you lost 3 battleships and killed nothing. I left and was cruising around Faction Warfare space in a Battlecruiser while jade undocked and proceeded to talk about only trading 3 ships for space suppiority or some crap like that. While most of our corp was out and about in the FW arena doing as they pleased. We had a good laugh in corp chat at his expense though.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris
Sure we could go blow your pos up, but its a big fat waste of time. It would cost you next to nothing and you would have another one anchored within hours of it being destroyed. All in all it would take you less time to anchor a new one and less money to buy a new one then the amount of money we would spend on amunition.
Well I suppose you need to rationalize failure. But to be honest what fleet you brought on us today should be capable of removing a single lowsec POS. If you are serious about "breaching the fortress of Kamela" you need to be playing on removing such things. We've destroyed several nationalist outposts of this type - sure it takes effort but ultimately its a test of commitment really. If you lack the ability to actually "breach the fortress of kamela" after the giant victory you achieved today this will be quite a sad thing.
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The other day after you lost 3 battleships and killed nothing. I left and was cruising around Faction Warfare space in a Battlecruiser while jade undocked and proceeded to talk about only trading 3 ships for space suppiority or some crap like that. While most of our corp was out and about in the FW arena doing as they pleased. We had a good laugh in corp chat at his expense though.
Yeah that was another occassion you won a battle in space yet lacked the leadership to followup and take advantage of the initiative. It was something we wondered at ourselves - you destroyed three battleships and halved our force then you immediately docked out and hid in the station in Ohide. It was pretty strange. But I'm sure you know what you are doing.
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:55:00 -
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Jasmine, we didn't win and then cower, WE won, and then those of us who wanted to left the system and did other stuff. While you proceeded to proclaim victory and dock camp a empty station
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Shalee Lianne
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:10:00 -
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Congratulations Garst. Brilliant work, you do us all proud.
Amarr victor, love live the Empire!
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris
Jasmine, we didn't win and then cower, WE won, and then those of us who wanted to left the system and did other stuff. While you proceeded to proclaim victory and dock camp a empty station
Remind me to take a picture of you hiding in there next time 
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:25:00 -
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you can try but I wasn't in station I was out and about pvp'ing, also while you have been discussing this I have racked up more kills then your top killer has for the whole week.
You guys really should try to accomplish something sometime.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris
You guys really should try to accomplish something sometime.
You mean besides forcing your CEO to rouse the entirety of two militias to fight ten of our pilots? If we were as poor as you say I expect you'd have little trouble achieving your stated intentions of driving us from Kamela.
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: SuiJuris on 24/10/2009 03:44:44
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: SuiJuris
You guys really should try to accomplish something sometime.
You mean besides forcing your CEO to rouse the entirety of two militias to fight ten of our pilots? If we were as poor as you say I expect you'd have little trouble achieving your stated intentions of driving us from Kamela.
Force? LOL, you forced us to kill your Carriers, While if you call that being forced, we would be happen to let you FORCE us to kill more of your Carriers anytime you want.
Seriously you Giftwrap 5 carriers then talk about forcing us to kill them.
You lose 5 Carriers and get a hand full of kills and try to claim that that accomplished something? SERIOUSLY? You're that st00pid?
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris
Force?
Yes we forced you to beg for help from the Caldari Militia to help you achieve what you were incapable of doing on your own. Of course you could prove me wrong and handle the little problem of the lowsec pos your CEO mentioned in the op but somehow I don't think thats going to happen is it?
Anyway SuiJuris - enough talk from you, I'll see you on the battlefield (or not) - hopefully in those fleeting heavy hulls you keep telling us about and perhaps you'll even come beyond dock range in Amarrian hisec this time.
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No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: SuiJuris
Force?
Yes we forced you to beg for help from the Caldari Militia to help you achieve what you were incapable of doing on your own. Of course you could prove me wrong and handle the little problem of the lowsec pos your CEO mentioned in the op but somehow I don't think thats going to happen is it?
Anyway SuiJuris - enough talk from you, I'll see you on the battlefield (or not) - hopefully in those fleeting heavy hulls you keep telling us about and perhaps you'll even come beyond dock range in Amarrian hisec this time.
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Maybe if you wern't camping a little used station undock in Kamela you would see me out and about in bigger stuff, Check the killboards I lost a Harbinger out in Huola just yesterday. I lose bigger stuff all the time, just not to SF because you guys are full of fail. Maybe you guys should try roaming, oh and actually using tackle ships, I hear those help to catch things.
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