It certainly is.

Talk to their CEOs/directors.

Maybe they'll oblige you by footing the cost for the war.

From their end it will be much cheaper.

I see this as working as intended. War is an expensive prospect. 10-man corps should not be able to cheaply wardec a corp 10x their size. It's just unrealistic.

Sadly it is working as intended. Many of us tried to give insight on how it would kill small gang warfare but sadly nothing was changed other than it costing us an arm and a leg and the defender can bring even more targets on the table for us.

Unless you are a market guru or love purchasing plex's, small man is dead.

War deccing an alliance should have no cost.

If 300 mill is an issue for you I suggest you do not start wars.

You know you could avoid all this cost if you looked for targets outside of highsec. I know plenty of places you could go with you're small gang and get good fights. Try -A- renter space, where ever the Agony guys are, Delve, or better yet come see us we like fights. Of course you can't really play station games or have neutral logistics out there but I'm sure you weren't using any of those filthy highsec tactics, right?

If nothing else these wardec changes will remove some of EVE detritus and that's a good thing.

E: I should add none of this "we'll get your haulers in highsec" BS means anything because any semi-intelligent alliance knows to use NPC alts.

If you're all -10 and in low sec then why are you whining about wardecs? Gate/station guns can't possibly be that much of a problem to warrant a wardec. It sounds like you need to recruit more people and escalate the situation if you want to deal with them or go fight someone else that you can handle. Instead of whining about wardec fees.

Let me get this straight, you seriously think that the only thing that is going to stop you from losing a 5 vs 50 fight against an ECM blob is getting a wardec to stop the gateguns? Man I've been doing my solo and small gang stuff all wrong.

Jeez, what fun to see Gunpoint Diplomacy crying on the forums. Why don't you just gank a few more mackinaws in Teon? You'll be able to afford the war with the big newbie alliance you want to fight.

Shockingly, among those thousands of members, a few of us solo. This is clearly shocking. In other news, engaging on stations and gates with guns will cost you ships. This is apparently news to a super pvp setup like Gunpoint. Good job guys. Does the fact that I've never lost a ship to gate guns or station guns at any point that I remember make me somehow better at lowsec pvp than your whole corp/alliance/hugbox? If so I'm very sorry.

Yes because telling you to stop whining about wardec fees instead of actively working to improve your situation via already available in-game mechanics is trolling. You are no different from the miners that whine for a change from CCP so they don't have to actually think about fitting their hulks and instead can just always fit for max yield.

E: Even better your big "MY KILLBOARD" is over wanting to dec a newbie corp like eve-uni how ~elite~ pvp of you.

That's, like, your opinion, man.

I'm willing to bet you have never fought in a fleet battle with 1000 people on grid. I can tell this because you operate on some delusion that large fleet pvp is all "press F1 on the count of 3." I'm sure you could explain the intricacies of an interceptor, interdictor, one of several types of recons, combat probing in a cloud of 1000 ships, managing 30+ logistics with a logistics anchor, and all of the other features of "press F1" warfare and at which point the F1 key comes into play.


Alright, now you just have to apply your own brilliance for not dying to station and gate guns to figure out how to keep your corpmates from dying to those gate and station guns without needing to whine at CCP to save you. HTFU

we expect to lose a metric ton of assets due to shear numbers weighed against us but our kb stats do not define us and no one will get a bollocking for losing a cynabal and LG snake clone either, just get trolled to no end.

That's a very cool story and all but totally non-responsive to my point. I too am willing to accept that you know nothing about 0.0 warfare. Fair enough. (3 months, lol)


Whatever "muppet" means it must be really offensive to somebody somewhere. I'll file that one away. On the other hand, do try to keep your stories straight. If you are complaining about needing a wardec to avoid dying to gateguns while shooting at eve uni newbies that's cool. (your laundry list of killmails complaining about damage from gate guns comes to mind). If it is now about GCC or whatever, then that's cool too, but do try to be honest about what it is you are whining about. It helps the rest of us keep up without having to predict your next wild move.

My core point still hasn't changed. If you want to buy a lot of targets to shoot at you're going to have to have the money to pay for it. If you can't pay the price for the service then I would reconsider how important it is to you instead of whining about how unfair the game is to you. I mean, if you really want people to take you seriously as some sort of "real PVPer" then the least you can do is avoid whining on the forums about how unfair things are.

If you really think you should be paying less to shoot at people, I would consider purchasing less rights to shoot at less people. I hear that if you purchase less of something you end up paying less for it.