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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.24 04:14:00 -
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I don't know what guides your reading but they are rubbish or your making your own assumptions.
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.24 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 24/10/2009 05:19:48
Also you can PVP from day one. Eve-University is a formal teaching corp and there is also RvB which takes players with no PVP knowledge or SP's.
I hope the above link is not removed as its advertising corps..oh noes...get the forum police quick Im going to faint!!!!!
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.24 12:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Takseen
Saying that Eve requires less grinding than Wow is somewhat incorrect. Sure you can update your skillqueue by logging on for 5 minutes once a day, but you'll still need to grind for ISK to progress your character unless you buy it with real cash instead.
I think the problem of learning skills is a bit exaggerated. It is possible to go to level 3 on the tier 1 skills within a few days while you work through the tutorials. Then spend a few more days to get sufficient combat skills for level 1 missions, then go back to 4/3 advanced learning skills or whatever Evemon suggests. Its a bit clunky for a newbie, but I did find a way to work around it.
And I am glad that RvB exists, because it does seem to offer the only really great PvP intro with T1 frigates, which are cheap and easy to fly. I assume they also provide jump clones? Because keeping my learning implants intact would be my main concern as a new pvper.
There is plenty of grind if you want it but its not required. A lot of players make ISK playing the market. Its the most lucrative profession in the game once you get to a certain volume.
There are free clone services provided by other corporations (The main one is offline at the moment) RvB is not a training corp but it welcomes all players. You do not get pushed aside or ignored just because you are new, unlike FW.
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.24 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 24/10/2009 17:31:52
Originally by: Takseen
I've now gone through enough level 1 combat missions that they're starting to repeat themselves. I'm going to have to continue "grinding" these missions until I have the standings to do level 2s, and the ISK to fly a ship that can do them. Possibly the mission grind disappears later in the game, but its certainly present in the beginning, which was the subject of the thread.
You have fallen into the trap of assuming you can only earn ISK from Missions or mining which is the fault of the tutorials really.
Others have said what you can do instead, its up to you to do that or not. If you only mission you will get bored of the game very fast.
I mission a few times a week maximum, the rest of the time I'm doing something else.
You're the only one putting up obstacles in your way.
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.25 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 25/10/2009 09:33:50
Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Cyprus Black
Edited by: Cyprus Black on 24/10/2009 22:28:36
As I stated before, there are far better and more fun sources of income other than mining and mission running.
Most alternative sources of income require some creativity on your part. You'll find that EvE allows a lot of behavior and practices that most other MMOs forbid.
Now that is an interesting design point. Make the basic income earning processes so boring that people come up with their own innovative ways to make money.
EVE has a large barrier to entry because players do get bored of mining (I never ever mined, many players don't) and mission running. They then read up that PVP is hard or they need expensive ships (wrong but its often said), they need SP's to do X activity and maybe meet a few griefers and decide to stop playing. This often happens any time from a few days to a few months.
That's why its important that players set their own personal series of targets. This is hard for new players to do as they sometimes assume they cannot do something or assume they won't like it. They also assume they have to do one activity as that's how other games works. You're a Priest or Mage or whatever. In EVE you can be all of it.
The best thing a player can do when joining EVE is forget all other games and take all advice about EVE with a pinch of salt. Just try out stuff. I played WOW for 4 years and EVE is such a different game knowledge of WOW could actually drag me back. I was hard core in WOW which equates to average in EVE.
Within a month I was:
Manufacturing
Trading
Scannning/exploring including Wormholes
I could have done:
Pirating
Anti-Pirating
Scamming
PVP
Mining
Ninja salvaging
Research
Any number of things I could make up for myself
When I feel like it I mission run.
My aim is to one day build my own one man POS in WH space. So I need to learn to PVP to protect myself. So I joined RvB and I'm having fun.
I never let anyone tell me 'You can't do that' and everything I do is geared towards my ultimate goal. So I have a purpose and the journey has meaning as well as being fun.
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