Oh, so scary.

Go and fly your kin/therm tanked Hulk to grav site in W-space and check how long it lasts. Free tip: not very long.

gankers are fine. however indys should have some way to get "pay back".

like black lists of characters and corps which are not allowed to buy from their orders or only with some extra fee or something like that. would be a blast to see the gankers mine their ships for themselves because they got blacklisted from notable indys all troughout eve :)

reap what you sow (spelling?)

What.

Really, they didn't scan it something?

Does this include gankers forcing miners to change their gamestyle: mining -> ganking?

I mean, I've been contacted by one ganker. Simple version of the message was that if I don't start ganking mining barges and exhumers he will continuously gank my ships.

What's the matter? Not into low sec ratting and missioning? I personally thing instituting that would go a long way for populating low sec.

please don't try to solve the issue with a single sentence from the whole of what I wrote. If you re-read it talks about multiplayer combat games and different area's and such. I was trying to fairly post all the info, and now what you said only shows points that reflect certain opinions, not all of the info. There is more there than just what benefits "gang-currs". This is to help players understand the different relation between consensual PvP and grieffing others. There are legal issues here that can be brought into a possible class action. please go back and re-read my post and even take a break to smoke then read over the laws that may pertain to your state and the state that CCP has an office in the US at. There is a reason I posted the company's address so those who were interested could look. I know in my state they could be brought to a trial, for cyber-crimes. Not saying if it would win or not, but the fact that it can be brought to a court gives me pause and it should give others.

CCP is not the authoritative figure on who defines griefing or harassment which griefing is. And harassment is a serious matter.

You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.

You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)

this from their own EULA, now I know it says language but im sure it implies actions against also which would not be hard to prove in a court.

ok folks pull back on the aggression a little this is on a topic of discussion in the forums, i'm not running for office.

Many here disagree with an opinion that differs from there own, thats perfectly ok. As it is different I expect some resistance to it. But an environment where a corporation is paying others to do the harass a singled out group of individuals based on a specified criteria over and over is the same as one person getting harassed by another over and over ... either way its harassment. when a specif group of people are the minority and the majority claims no foul is committed chances are good that the majority is just not wanting to admit they are wrong. This is why civil rights in RL have always been so hard to get for minorities.

CPP is responsible for the environment and atmosphere in which we play, the fact that individuals can make and promote an environment where harassment takes place and is actively encouraged is most likely the lack of monitoring on CCP's part and I am sure that once there made aware of it they will move to fix it.

Indies are the minority in this game, always have been except for the botters. This is not a PvP game, it is an MMO sandbox with some PvP element.... We all deserve a fun and semi fair place to play. We are not the majority so Im sure we will be ignored.

http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/miner/
This is the miner link no where in it does it say you will be harassed and podded. I could post others as well but Id just waste my time.

Yews that's correct, the Somali's do it all the time, when's the last time you saw a pirate strike on Santa Monica Blvd. In the middle of Los Angeles. Kinda remind ya of high sec.

Tippia BS, LOL

Lord Zim, I'm really glad you liked my analogy. LMFAO

Just so you know, I don't run in high sec, I really don't care what you do there to be honest. But my opinion is that, if that's what your into. Your just weak.

RubyPorto please tell me why your so strongly behind this. I'm actually at a loss here, My main, and your organization runs pretty much in the same waters. Fought you guys quite a bit, "always enjoy it I might add". I mean you guys swim in the serious PVP waters?

PS theee grammmar & sppelling policce caan FO.

I mean really, is killing things in high sec really that damn important. really! I mean gawd I hate that place anyway.

I just don't like the notion of things being forced on players in high sec. Simple as that. But If you do it serious fallout occurs.

I never, repeat never use my main. For obvious reasons. However next time I'm on coms, I may let you know who I am Ruby.

FO = Fly On

PS Ruby, that shirt makes you look like the captain fo the love boat.