Originally by: Snot Shot

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We pretend that they are equal

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Super-Cap ships were offered recently to be built for ôcostö but this information was leaked by Leadership to ôbrosefsö prior and all the slots were filled quickly upon notification to the Allianceàànote the ôcostö aspectà..again, keeping as much isk for themselves as possible.

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Originally by: Snot Shot

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So over the last few weeks while camping Jita 4-4 for war targets I have been doing quick convos with goons to see how they are dealing with leadership sucking up the vast amounts of isk each region is producing while tossing back ôship reimbursementö as a HUGE benefit to being in the Alliance. Admittedly most goonies told me to go f myself but some decided to throw out a few responses and expanded on a few issues they felt were public enough that it would not be to earth shattering.

As for the ôreimbursement programö goes, most felt this was a way of leadership keeping as much isk for themselves as possible since goonies had not been doing much pvp of note lately. All this isk was just filling the wallets of the leadership and with occasional blips such as the Esoteria debacle. Super-Cap ships were offered recently to be built for ôcostö but this information was leaked by Leadership to ôbrosefsö prior and all the slots were filled quickly upon notification to the Alliance. Note the ôcostö aspect, again, keeping as much isk for themselves as possible.

Another item of note which came from the convos is what GS leadership thinks of most of the GS corporations they use to bulk up their numbers/space/and wallets. ôGS let almost any crap corp in as all outside the main alliance corps are used as tools and meat shields. We pretend that they are equal but when itÆs all said and done they are all just mushrooms planted in different systems around Delve. Before Dominion hits though we are going to need to trash most of them to tighten up the ranks. Plan is to clean out as much of their assets on a given day and then start booting them. Most of us have alts in them and will pull them into the main corps after the cleaningö

Goonies on PB: ôOdd thing about PB is how long ZAF is holding out down there. We were surprised that anyone would live there but as itÆs been said many times by GS leadershipà..where else are they going to go. The place is just a mess (ZAF/KIA disbanding, Minor Threat issues..) and we are just trying to keep them alive for a little while until we get set up for Dominion in Delve. After that we plan to keep them blue but expect that they will die a slow death as Stainwagon tries to come through.ö

As I went through the convo notes I decided to drop in a few nuggets below that were interesting:

òKarttoons failed Jihads against Empire industrialists which are typical of the gimmicks used to over-promote him in the first place.
òZapÆs back door deals and ratting scams which lines his own pockets with vast sums of isk.
òGiant ôblue listö generated through pay-offs, threats, and shallow promises so as to insulate GS with meat shields.
òGS failed ôsupportö of Alliances that had helped goons in the past and were then left to die alone when they needed goonies most.
òGS failed ôsupportö of those who fell pray to their promises of helping them if they switched sides.
òAll in all we are a large alliance with a big bark but no bite as if you canÆt tell from each offensive we have tried on our own.
òHarrgoth Agmar has admitted that the ôfun timesö in gs are not what he thought they would be as he is laughed at daily.
òKarttoons continued efforts to undermine others within GS to make himself look popular in front of his mindless followers.
òThe Mittani getting ôHaargothÆdö by Zap when he is fed a salty load of counter-spy intelligence and left to look the fool on the forums.
òAlliance leaders such as DBRB and deadtear are mocked as simpletons who most wish would loose their supercaps and leave the game.

Anyways I promise those who spent a little time with me at the bar in 4-4, your ids will be kept safe. I plan to keep the convos up over the weeks leading up to Dominion so if you are flying through expect a request.

As always, u-mad, never stop poasting, trying to hard, nice wall, left disappointed, you still suck at posting, and 4-4 has a ghay bar?.

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Originally by: Snot Shot

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the GS leadership abuses their members and pockets all the isk they make of the regions you hold...

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Originally by: Snot Shot

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So over the last few weeks while camping Jita 4-4 for war targets I have been doing quick convos with goons to see how they are dealing with leadership sucking up the vast amounts of isk each region is producing while tossing back ôship reimbursementö as a HUGE benefit to being in the Allianceàà. Admittedly most goonies told me to go f myself but some decided to throw out a few responses and expanded on a few issues they felt were public enough that it would not be to earth shattering.

As for the ôreimbursement programö goes, most felt this was a way of leadership keeping as much isk for themselves as possible since goonies had not been doing much pvp of note lately. All this isk was just filling the wallets of the leadership and with occasional blips such as the Esoteria debacle. Super-Cap ships were offered recently to be built for ôcostö but this information was leaked by Leadership to ôbrosefsö prior and all the slots were filled quickly upon notification to the Allianceàànote the ôcostö aspectà..again, keeping as much isk for themselves as possible.

Another item of note which came from the convos is what GS leadership thinks of most of the GS corporations they use to bulk up their numbers/space/and wallets. ôGS let almost any crap corp in as all outside the main alliance corps are used as tools and meat shields. We pretend that they are equal but when itÆs all said and done they are all just mushrooms planted in different systems around Delve. Before Dominion hits though we are going to need to trash most of them to tighten up the ranks. Plan is to clean out as much of their assets on a given day and then start booting them. Most of us have alts in them and will pull them into the main corps after the cleaningö

Goonies on PB: ôOdd thing about PB is how long ZAF is holding out down there. We were surprised that anyone would live there but as itÆs been said many times by GS leadershipà..where else are they going to go. The place is just a mess (ZAF/KIA disbanding, Minor Threat issues..) and we are just trying to keep them alive for a little while until we get set up for Dominion in Delve. After that we plan to keep them blue but expect that they will die a slow death as Stainwagon tries to come through.ö

As I went through the convo notes I decided to drop in a few nuggets below that were interesting:

òKarttoons failed Jihads against Empire industrialists which are typical of the gimmicks used to over-promote him in the first place.
òZapÆs back door deals and ratting scams which lines his own pockets with vast sums of isk.
òGiant ôblue listö generated through pay-offs, threats, and shallow promises so as to insulate GS with meat shields.
òGS failed ôsupportö of Alliances that had helped goons in the past and were then left to die alone when they needed goonies most.
òGS failed ôsupportö of those who fell pray to their promises of helping them if they switched sides.
òAll in all we are a large alliance with a big bark but no bite as if you canÆt tell from each offensive we have tried on our own.
òHarrgoth Agmar has admitted that the ôfun timesö in gs are not what he thought they would be as he is laughed at daily.
òKarttoons continued efforts to undermine others within GS to make himself look popular in front of his mindless followers.
òThe Mittani getting ôHaargothÆdö by Zap when he is fed a salty load of counter-spy intelligence and left to look the fool on the forums.
òAlliance leaders such as DBRB and deadtear are mocked as simpletons who most wish would loose their supercaps and leave the game.

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Originally by: Rob Repper

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tbh this is nothing compared to the abuse we get from our alliance leaders... right mittens?

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Originally by: Snot Shot

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Hey no need to get hostile with me, IÆm just relaying the info to you guys. ItÆs not my fault the GS leadership abuses their members and pockets all the isk they make of the regions you hold...

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Edited by: General Windypops on 27/10/2009 22:00:15
Ungh... this makes my 'Goons think they're edgy and unique' thread look pretty lazy by comparison :(

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Originally by: SK Rooster

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here's a hint EVERY ALLIANCE in the game does this

hope this helps

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Free DBRB.

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