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Killljoy	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:11:00 - [1] This is a ******ed game mechanic. Put in a 24 hour delay and a canel button for the CEO or something. I know CCP likes strif and stuff to happen in the "sandbox" but this is just dumb.
Der Unmensch SyNtHeTiC D.N.A Cold Steel Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:36:00 - [2] signed _______________________________________________ BLUBB!!!
General Error	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:39:00 - [3] signed
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:42:00 - [4] signed
Lord Valian	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:42:00 - [5] Signed!
Miss Arson	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:56:00 - [6] Not signed. Stop crying. As designed. Good riddance Bob. Good riddance CVA. I hope the Goons already created CVA-esque corps to mock this milestone in eve history.
Akira Kurosaw	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:59:00 - [7] how te hell does alliance disbanding work anyways? smart solution would be a vote between CEO's of all alliance corp.
Killljoy	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:00:00 - [8] There is this button, and you click it.
mamolian Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:00:00 - [9] I think this mechanic is fine CCP leave it as it is. -----------
randomname4me	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:08:00 - [10] Its a good game mechanic that should stay. Teaches you not to **** off members of your leadership (BOB) and to be careful who you grant power to (CVA.) EVE Online: Rated RRR- For Explicit Breakfast Piercing Bullets.

Killljoy	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:11:00 - [11] No this is like the exec vice-pres of marketing closeing PEPSI. It just can't happen.
Weynard Caldari German Elite Corp	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:12:00 - [12] signed Originally by: Invictusletum Originally by: Weynard http://i34.tinypic.com/r8yqsj.jpg no comment Now that was quick. Even for the standard of the internets. Thats Germanys Fall Holidays for you :P
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:14:00 - [13] signed _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!
Blnukem 192 Amarr Revilers Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Miss Arson Not signed. Stop crying. As designed. Good riddance Bob. Good riddance CVA. I hope the Goons already created CVA-esque corps to mock this milestone in eve history. So hacking someone's account and bending them over a table is a game design? Cool.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Blnukem 192 Originally by: Miss Arson Not signed. Stop crying. As designed. Good riddance Bob. Good riddance CVA. I hope the Goons already created CVA-esque corps to mock this milestone in eve history. So hacking someone's account and bending them over a table is a game design? Cool. No, it is not. Of course, if that's what happened then everything will be reset back to normal. But I really kind of doubt it. I forget, did you have a point? ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Blnukem 192 Amarr Revilers Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Ranger 1 I forget, did you have a point? Did you?
Shidhe Minmatar The Babylon5 Consortuim	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:20:00 - [17] (* signed *) There need to be some measures against corp or alliance fraud. EvE does not have many of the safeguards of RL, and alts are effectively completely anonymous. There is very limited control of security in corps, and it is not easy to implement.
small chimp	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:21:00 - [18] signed This is PATHETIC!
eyesee you	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:35:00 - [19] Stop crying CVA/BOB is gone
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:42:00 - [20] signed Now what is this small print about "all my worldly possessions"? I really should read things before signing...they arn't even that big definately wouldn't call them worldly. Not even sphere shaped. Maybe rectangaly. Squarely. Well, it's three-dimensional so cubely. Guess then the small print should mention something about 'cubely possessions' instead. Veal, murder. Baby Carrots, healthy snack. Food hypocrisy at work.

Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:43:00 - [21] Doesn't make much sense that to do anything requires at least a 24 hour vote except disbanding an alliance.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:47:00 - [22] Goonswarm is next. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Abrazzar Goonswarm is next. Speculation or fact?
Moriel Damodred Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:07:00 - [24] Why cant they just... reform the alliance? Everyone else had a sig and i felt lonly :(
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Moriel Damodred Why cant they just... reform the alliance? Not terribly sure, since I've never really dealt with alliances stuff, but perhaps they formed a new one temporarily until it's sorted: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1205265
Killljoy	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:10:00 - [26] They will but it will have to have another name and it will take weeks to repair there SOV.
Textret Gallente The Executioners Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:12:00 - [27] Don't Change a Thing! If someone can't be absolutely trusted, don't make them a director. You can setup roles, without Director access, to do just about anything you need. If you make someone a Director and they take out the alliance, you have failed as the alliance commander and have suffered the consequence of your lack of leadership. Life in Eve is unforgiving of failure!
Aurorae Andromedae	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:14:00 - [28] Originally by: Moriel Damodred Why cant they just... reform the alliance? Well, someone already created corporation named the same than CVA was. There can't be alliance and corporation with the same name.
Kara Mitsui The New Era Huzzah Federation	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:16:00 - [29] Originally by: Textret Don't Change a Thing! If someone can't be absolutely trusted, don't make them a director. You can setup roles, without Director access, to do just about anything you need. If you make someone a Director and they take out the alliance, you have failed as the alliance commander and have suffered the consequence of your lack of leadership. Life in Eve is unforgiving of failure! Dumbest post of the day. You are basically saying there should never be any directors, because in reality you can't trust anyone 100%. Your own mother might go psycho and disband the alliance one day. Second, from all information so far CVA believe it was a hacked account. The player involved has been in contact, the deed was done while he was sleeping and he strenuously denies doing it. So following your perfect logic, you cannot ever have any directors because one of them could have a trojan keylogger installed without knowing and give away their password. And it could happen to the CEO as well, so better make the CEO some fake account that is never used. So we have your alliance with no directors and a CEO who never logs in. Nice one! Idiot.
Night Epoch Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:18:00 - [30] Signed. Long Live CVA.

Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:19:00 - [31] Originally by: Killljoy They will but it will have to have another name and it will take weeks to repair there SOV. No time before Dominion hits then. Still, a completely moronic game functionality that reeks of CCP incompetence. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Textret Gallente The Executioners Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:22:00 - [32] Originally by: Textret Don't Change a Thing! If someone can't be absolutely trusted, don't make them a director. You can setup roles, without Director access, to do just about anything you need. If you make someone a Director and they take out the alliance, you have failed as the alliance commander and have suffered the consequence of your lack of leadership. Life in Eve is unforgiving of failure! Clarification: If it was an account hack, it will be fixed by petition; if it was betrayal, your leadership has failed. No changes to the game mechanics are needed either way.
khendro Caldari Unholy Asylum	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:28:00 - [33] would've been cooler if it happened at Dominion release, suddenly a lot more action with the new sov changes and the suddenly claimable territory
Jojo Jackson	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:28:00 - [34] Edited by: Jojo Jackson on 28/10/2009 22:28:47 0.0 and lowsec isn't worth to bother with most of the time. When BoB got disbanded I didn't realy care but it except made me sad as I loved the fact of two big powerblocks with some smaler in between. Since BoB isn't anymore, there is no real reason to look who owns which region (as they are 99% static anyway). Before it was fun to read about this BoB v Goon stuff. CVA on the other hand did somethink I could respect. They act as PRIVAT-CONCORD (well, better one as they hunt criminals) and I'd love to see more allys with CVA NRDS rules (this would bring you the player you allways want @nerv-highsec whiners). But ... please tell me the sense of creating a Ally, putting so much affort into some space, fight thousends of battles if all can be destroyed by one borred idiot in seconds? @CCP, if you like the dynamic of allinces and corps you NEED to get a solution very very fast! (and you seem to like it with your upcoming NPC-Corp-Nerv). There is no reason to join a player corp/ally if you can lose all within seconds without beeing able to fight for it. Not even a 11% tax for ratting!
Revan Saihon	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:31:00 - [35] From what I have heard it was an account hack
Nicklaus Klaus'nik Gallente Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:32:00 - [36] damn all these keylogging f'ing douchebags. CCP needs to take heed, cos this trend has been building momentum. Unrelated to the disbanding of any other major alliances out there(?), lots of players have been falling victim to keyloggers, someone point me in the right direction where CCP is addressing this issue. but yeah, someone made the comparison to a Marketing VP dismantling Pepsi (can't happen) and thats pretty much how these thousand+ man alliances have been set up for failure by the existing game mechanic. either way, i'm just a support guy, so the big league politics don't matter one way or another, but still this sh*t could go for some tightening up come Dominion time. The Darkness is Rising
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:39:00 - [37] BOB comming for CVA's space? tinfoil hat
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:41:00 - [38] my 2 cents If this was a true account hack, then CVA will have their space and stuff restored as is. If this was what the CAOD thread of someone infiltrating into the high ranks and disbanding it from within, then bye CVA, it was fun while it lasted. There is no need for change of game mechanics or anything like that. It's called espionage , it happens in real life both with nations and corporations in real life. You send spies in to attack and break down the organization from within. Welcome to EvE and remember rules 1-3 of EvE, trust no one, trust no one and finally, everyone is out to get you all the time, you just dont know it yet.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:45:00 - [39] /signed seriously they think 1 ship being able to destroy an entire fleet with 1 click is bad. Yet an entire alliance can be screwed over with 1 click as well. Shows how rediculously broken and poor the corp/alliance management mechanics are. ------------------------------ Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Kara Mitsui The New Era Huzzah Federation	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:45:00 - [40] Originally by: Textret Clarification: If it was an account hack, it will be fixed by petition; if it was betrayal, your leadership has failed. No changes to the game mechanics are needed either way. No, you don't really understand what is happening. As soon as sov is lost, there are hundreds of people roaming providence, dozens of alliances dropping new towers and shooting up existing ones. So many things happen so quickly that CCP isn't going to be able to roll anything back even if it was an account hack. We've been through this before and CCP has never rolled-back a substantial change like this, even if the means for initiating it were against the EULA or even illegal. It's just not possible. Even if they decided to just roll back events in providence alone, there is too much complexity in the database to be sure that they wouldn't create huge issues in the rest of the game where people have done trades, moved jump-clones, etc etc during this time. A rollback won't happen, there will be no petition and no fixes. It's precisely because of this that the mechanic as it stands is so stupid. If you can't roll something back, it should be very difficult to do. Something like the Marketing VP closing Pepsi is a massive event and it's completely mindless that CCP hasn't modified this to allow a cool-off period during which the event can be cancelled by other directors.

J'mee Leggs	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:46:00 - [41] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk my 2 cents If this was a true account hack, then CVA will have their space and stuff restored as is. If this was what the CAOD thread of someone infiltrating into the high ranks and disbanding it from within, then bye CVA, it was fun while it lasted. There is no need for change of game mechanics or anything like that. It's called espionage , it happens in real life both with nations and corporations in real life. You send spies in to attack and break down the organization from within. Welcome to EvE and remember rules 1-3 of EvE, trust no one, trust no one and finally, everyone is out to get you all the time, you just dont know it yet. Did you...did you just use real life corporate espionage to defend a game mechanic that allows a single person to destroy years of work with a single click of the mouse with no repercussions? Nah, I must have read that wrong. Nobody could be that dumb.
Killljoy	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:48:00 - [42] I'm not saying a director in the executor corp should not be able to hurt a corp. They should, they have been given power. Just not disband the whole allince. Its dumb. Could the CFO of pepsi steal a ton of cash and flee to peru. Sure. Can he delist the company from the stock market. No.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Kara Mitsui Originally by: Textret Clarification: If it was an account hack, it will be fixed by petition; if it was betrayal, your leadership has failed. No changes to the game mechanics are needed either way. No, you don't really understand what is happening. As soon as sov is lost, there are hundreds of people roaming providence, dozens of alliances dropping new towers and shooting up existing ones. So many things happen so quickly that CCP isn't going to be able to roll anything back even if it was an account hack. We've been through this before and CCP has never rolled-back a substantial change like this, even if the means for initiating it were against the EULA or even illegal. It's just not possible. Even if they decided to just roll back events in providence alone, there is too much complexity in the database to be sure that they wouldn't create huge issues in the rest of the game where people have done trades, moved jump-clones, etc etc during this time. A rollback won't happen, there will be no petition and no fixes. It's precisely because of this that the mechanic as it stands is so stupid. If you can't roll something back, it should be very difficult to do. Something like the Marketing VP closing Pepsi is a massive event and it's completely mindless that CCP hasn't modified this to allow a cool-off period during which the event can be cancelled by other directors. Unfortunately this ^^ I highly doubt anything will be done to restore anything. CVA will just have to kick it into high gear and get **** back to normal around there most likely.
Shidhe Minmatar The Babylon5 Consortuim	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:51:00 - [44] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk my 2 cents ... There is no need for change of game mechanics or anything like that. It's called espionage , it happens in real life both with nations and corporations in real life. You send spies in to attack and break down the organization from within. Welcome to EvE and remember rules 1-3 of EvE, trust no one, trust no one and finally, everyone is out to get you all the time, you just dont know it yet. Sigh. There is such a thing as a system at least designed to try to be secure. One politician gets elected to your countries parliament, pushes a button, no more country? That is what a constitution is for - to protect people when things go wrong! Or they just supposed to sit back and do nothing? If bridges fail, is it just the people's tough luck to be in the way, or should we ask if the bridges need strengthening? This pseudo-tough philosophy is getting to be tiring.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:51:00 - [45] CCP, fix your crappy security schema. Want people in player corps, want emergence, want a sand box? Then fix the damn sand. Bit field? LMFAO, shesh. The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
small chimp	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:52:00 - [46] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Still, a completely moronic game functionality that reeks of CCP incompetence. I agree all CCP accounts should be banned from the game due to their incompetency!
Tom Warrior	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:54:00 - [47] I heard somewhere it was an account hack. Not sure though but thought I would post my limited understanding of the situation anyway. I will keep everyone up to date as I gather more speculation from other forum posts and my imagination.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:59:00 - [48] I seems that CCP can't start rerolling things back just because of this incident, no matter how it was done. Too much will happen by people not involved directly in any wrong doing, so it doesn't seem reasonable to screw everyone over this. If there was any foul play involved, they will just get their old alliance back.
J'mee Leggs	Posted - 2009.10.28 22:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Tom Warrior I heard somewhere it was an account hack. Not sure though but thought I would post my limited understanding of the situation anyway. I will keep everyone up to date as I gather more speculation from other forum posts and my imagination. And I shall await with bated breath for your recounts of poorly understood disinformation so that I may pass it along in NPC corp chat and feel enlightened among my fellow PROgamers.
Grath Telkin Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:04:00 - [50] I read this thread, and all i saw was BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW

Neo Veltman	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:07:00 - [51] Signed, this **** has to stop. Family Motto: "Esse Quam Videris." Translated from Latin: "To Be Rather Than To Seem."
Roemy Schneider Vanishing Point.	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:09:00 - [52] just when you thought nothing would happen anymore until dominion... - putting the gist back into logistics
dei'ro	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:12:00 - [53] 'signed'
IsiL'Nom Caldari Violet Vortex R.A.G.E	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:15:00 - [54] well signed.. do something bout it ccp, in my opinion this is worst than isk sellers or just similar - that easy to disband a grp of ppl? second time in game its sad, whatever the background is,,, u filthy amarr scums :P
Dhonner Construction Cabal Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:16:00 - [55] Supersigned!!
Shawshanke	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Textret Don't Change a Thing! If someone can't be absolutely trusted, don't make them a director. You can setup roles, without Director access, to do just about anything you need. If you make someone a Director and they take out the alliance, you have failed as the alliance commander and have suffered the consequence of your lack of leadership. Life in Eve is unforgiving of failure! 99.99% of the people who play this game are children who can't be trusted with a dog **** taco let alone a directorship.
Alanea Winddancer	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:23:00 - [57] I am in fact surprised that no security measures have been added against these kind of things yet. As people have mentioned already, it makes no sense that so much destruction can be caused by a single click of a mouse button.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:30:00 - [58] Originally by: Alanea Winddancer I am in fact surprised that no security measures have been added against these kind of things yet. As people have mentioned already, it makes no sense that so much destruction can be caused by a single click of a mouse button. Sure it does, or did people forget about all the events between 1950 to 1989
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:36:00 - [59] Hands up if you actually understand how this particular "feature" works. (Hint: it's not a single click.)
J'mee Leggs	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:45:00 - [60] Is it two clicks?

Alanea Winddancer	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:48:00 - [61] Aaah, if it is two clicks then everything is just fine...nevermind my earlier post then
Shidhe Minmatar The Babylon5 Consortuim	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:49:00 - [62] Originally by: J'mee Leggs Is it two clicks? Two clicks or not two clicks? That is the question.... (Sorry, there some cues which cannot be resisted.)
Bonny Lee Caldari The Guardian Agency Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:50:00 - [63] Yeah cool espionage.... its like someone gets president of the USA and tells everybody USA is no more cause he pressed a big red button... this is nothing that could ever happen to a similar entity in the real world. Espionage is fine but disbanding an alliance is one thing that shouldnt allowed to be done this way.
J'mee Leggs	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:53:00 - [64] Edited by: J''mee Leggs on 28/10/2009 23:52:56 Originally by: Bonny Lee Yeah cool espionage.... its like someone gets president of the USA and tells everybody USA is no more cause he pressed a big red button... this is nothing that could ever happen to a similar entity in the real world. Espionage is fine but disbanding an alliance is one thing that shouldnt allowed to be done this way. You don't understand, the President would have to push the big red button twice.
Oriens Pars	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:55:00 - [65] Originally by: Textret Don't Change a Thing! If someone can't be absolutely trusted, don't make them a director. You can setup roles, without Director access, to do just about anything you need. If you make someone a Director and they take out the alliance, you have failed as the alliance commander and have suffered the consequence of your lack of leadership. Life in Eve is unforgiving of failure! Noone can be absolutely trusted. In fact CCP even encourages being untrustworthy. Kinda sad really.
Ukucia Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.10.29 00:16:00 - [66] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Originally by: Alanea Winddancer I am in fact surprised that no security measures have been added against these kind of things yet. As people have mentioned already, it makes no sense that so much destruction can be caused by a single click of a mouse button. Sure it does, or did people forget about all the events between 1950 to 1989 "The button" didn't actually exist. In the US, launching the nukes required a secure radio link, pre-shared keys, and a 2nd authorization from someone else in the line of succession.
Ringo Jeicha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.10.29 00:17:00 - [67] And right for dominion, gg, now goons. Serves them for prepopulating 0.0 with outposts. --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss
Hooded Weirdo	Posted - 2009.10.29 00:23:00 - [68]
Hardin Amarr Celestial Janissaries	Posted - 2009.10.29 00:45:00 - [69] Originally by: Hooded Weirdo ----- Alliance Creation/Corp Expansion Services http://internetspacewars.blogspot.com/
small chimp	Posted - 2009.10.29 01:11:00 - [70] according to some source GMs will restore cva but not lost assetss.. So that just provest that ccp supports hacking. All lost assetss should be reimbursed. shame on you ccp for your incompetency!

Sahriah BloodStone Caldari No.Mercy	Posted - 2009.10.29 01:38:00 - [71] To all those biased people who just want CVA dead i say this We have a 24hr cooldown for leaving corp with roles, yet you can press a button and disband an entire alliance which costs 1bil to create in the first place, with no cooldown, no chance at changing your mind. Logically there should be AT LEAST a 24hr period where any director/CEO can cancel the alliance disbanding. Or maybe a voting system. The current system is flawed if you look at this all logically and until now it hasnt been addressed because there has been no issues. Analysing the way CCP have done things in the past, i beleive they will change this feature eventually, not dramatically but to bring it inline with other mechanics. I nor like or hate CVA for the record, they do not effect me. ---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
small chimp	Posted - 2009.10.29 02:02:00 - [72] according to some source GMs will restore cva but not lost assetss.. So that just provest that ccp supports hacking. All lost assetss should be reimbursed. shame on you ccp for your incompetency!
AvaAlt	Posted - 2009.10.29 02:07:00 - [73] ****ty feature. One click to screw over several hundred players, not good.
Criztian Gaeta	Posted - 2009.10.29 02:26:00 - [74] Edited by: Criztian Gaeta on 29/10/2009 02:28:16 signed I understand that people get **ed off, and I accept that. I don't care if someone empties out a corp hanger and runs off. That's fine... But disbanding an entire Alliance with the simple click... I dunno... it seems a bit much. Like if an employee of a company get's **ed off they may steal stuff from the company or spread lies, but they can't very well fire everyone and shut down the company... It's harder to leave a corporation then it is to disband an alliance. It just doesn't make sense to me that a single player has this much power. It's just silly. And in cases like these with hacking it's just not right. Most people that think people who want the system changed are "cry babies" only say this because it hasn't happened to them, I'm willing to bet they'd be singing a different tune if it was their Alliance who got disbanded because someone had their account hacked.
Azrael Acid Gallente Space Lobsters Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2009.10.29 02:44:00 - [75] SIGNED, DOUBLE SIGNED. 30,000 people on Tranquility ( approximately ). At $14.95 a month each. $450,000 ( approximately )a month CCP earns from this game. And they can't figure out a way to make it harder to hack accounts or disband an alliance...hmmmm something's wrong here. This is the 4th time this MONTH that a person's account that I know has been hacked. 1 of them from my own corp. Dude STILL doesn't have his assets back. This is becoming a severe, and serious problem, an infestation that will only grow greater if nothing is done to counter it. It's as bad as identity theft imo. CCP FIX IT. Hackers, I just want to say to you, you are spineless cowards, who don't have enough character, or dignity to work for your gains. I guess cheating is the only way you can feel powerful, or acquire any ego. Very pathetic. To those of you in support of a fix, both in game friends and enemies alike, thank you for your respect. " The only way evil can prevail, is when good men do nothing."
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.29 02:48:00 - [76] Originally by: Azrael Acid SIGNED, DOUBLE SIGNED. 30,000 people on Tranquility ( approximately ). At $14.95 a month each. $450,000 ( approximately )a month CCP earns from this game. And they can't figure out a way to make it harder to hack accounts or disband an alliance...hmmmm something's wrong here. This is the 4th time this MONTH that a person's account that I know has been hacked. 1 of them from my own corp. Dude STILL doesn't have his assets back. This is becoming a severe, and serious problem, an infestation that will only grow greater if nothing is done to counter it. It's as bad as identity theft imo. CCP FIX IT. Hackers, I just want to say to you, you are spineless cowards, who don't have enough character, or dignity to work for your gains. I guess cheating is the only way you can feel powerful, or acquire any ego. Very pathetic. To those of you in support of a fix, both in game friends and enemies alike, thank you for your respect. Uhh. There are around 300,000 subs, so its nearer 4,500,000. Lets say 4,000,000 to be safe. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Azrael Acid Gallente Space Lobsters Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2009.10.29 03:07:00 - [77] Quote: Uhh. There are around 300,000 subs, so its nearer 4,500,000. Lets say 4,000,000 to be safe. Hence why I said "approximate", I was not counting the subs... but now that you mention it. Yeah. " The only way evil can prevail, is when good men do nothing."
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2009.10.29 03:54:00 - [78] signed.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.10.29 04:00:00 - [79] /signed When one emo bastage can nullify all the hard work and time spent of thousands of players in less than a minute with a few clicks of the mouse then something is not right with the mechanic. At the very least make it were you need two directors to verify the disband or as others have said make it a vote with a 24 hour timer.
Rotnac Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.10.29 04:21:00 - [80] I enjoy reading about these espionage activities. One more example of why corps and alliances need to be careful. Although I'll possibly go along with a 24 hr timer for the executor corp to leave an alliance. Although I'm assuming that if there's no other corps in the alliance, the executor corp can't stop being the executor corp. Let other corps leave/get kicked instantly though, as now. Its needed for alliance security reasons.

StealthNet Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.29 05:00:00 - [81] Assuming that someone "hacked" an account to accomplish this: Most forms of "hacking" are considered illegal. This is issue #1. If people conspired in real life, to get the RL resources (and managed to successfully accomplish it) to intentionally hack an EVE account, well, it really doesn¦t matter what they did ingame, imho, that itself is a bannable offense - not only a bad case o metagaming, but metagaming through illegal activity. This is issue #2. Now, issue #3 - that¦s about the game mechanics and UI design, regarding the alliance controls. Tbh, if hacking was the way used to get in, I hope that CCP find the ppl that did it and permaban all of them. StealthNet _______________________________________________
Wen Jaibao	Posted - 2009.10.29 05:08:00 - [82] Such a realistic and well balanced game mechanic. Bravo CCP for your foresight /golfclap

CCP Applebabe	Posted - 2009.10.29 05:12:00 - [83] Please keep the discussion here . Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us



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