Originally by: Michael Bross

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Oh no need to mix words my friend. You spoke very plainly and I know you combat doctrine will be upheld by CVA. I mean it would be a double standard toward you if they called you pirates while their friends in -7- ran gate camps on neutrals right? They've got your back no worries. Nobody is guilty of pirating unless they are engaging a pet in Provi.

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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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Pirating = pew pew for stealing assets and making isk.


Fly to Syndicate, engage a roaming fleet, fight that fleet, win/loose = not pirating.



You cant do the run KOS checker thing when your surrounded by known hostiles, in a region not patrolled by fellow members of the Citadel. Your are being absurd.

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Originally by: Michael Bross

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You stated that anyone who is not blue to you when you are on your roams may be "caught in the crossfire". Issuing a statement like that makes no sense unless you are addressing that they need to set standings with you because you shoot neutrals. Please if your going to lie about your activities don't post up the proof of your lies in the same thread.

And I mine as well state for the record again...

If you are an "innocent" miner or ratter in Providence you are supporting through the economy of the region the practicion of slavery. You are therefore supporting slavery and an enemy of the Ushra'Khan and all freedom loving peoples of the cluster. We have made our view on the matter quite public with fair warning given for years. Their "innocence" was lost long ago.

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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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Yea well I must have missed the slaves, all I see is spaceships



And . . . your saying I should run a Kos check on a roaming gang in Syndicate before I engage? There is obviously a difference between lawful space and unlawful space.

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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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Yea well I must have missed the slaves, all I see is spaceships

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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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Where in my statements am I suggesting that we openly hunt relatively helpless ratters/miners to buff our killboard stats?

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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 01/11/2009 17:26:08


Also, to the likes of the Aegis militia, if you don't nap us, we will not, in turn, be setting you to blue either. If one of your ships just happens to enter one of our wormholes, there is no conceivable way we can discern you from any other random pirate attempting to interfere with our operations there. KOS checker in unknown space cannot possibly apply, there are simply to many variables So if it is not a known alley inside of unknown space, it will be cleansed from unknown space.




I have been assured that this mandate is not an issue by CVA representatives. We are +10 to CVA, (and a few others) however we evidently have no standings with you, and so, you are neutral to us in unknown space. If you don't like this, contact us an arrange blue mutual blue status, if not, there is a good chance that it will likely be cleansed from our wormholes like anyone else who peaks their head.



Inside of providence and the low sec regions bordering it, we will maintain NRDS policies as always, and we will stand as enforcers of law with the rest of the Citadel. But if we are inside of a hot, disputed region like curse, do people really expect us to run a KOS check and set red/blue everything we see?

No . . . that makes no sense.

So if citadel residence want to roam around places like Curse, Stain, Syndicate, Wormholes Space, Pure Blind ex.) and they don't see a need to contact REIGN and secure mutual standings (standings that we will gladly give to any member of the citadel) the outcome will likely be that we will fire on you, we will engage you, and we will kill you. This does not mean that we are pirates, this means that we are a COMBAT BASED ALLIANCE One does not fly into a place like syndicate to play nice, we go there to fight and hone our combat skills. If you are not set to blue, being caught in the cross fire is to be expected.

What else could you expect?

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Originally by: Garreck

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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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To your first question, yes.

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I challenge you, then, to find any other space-holding alliance who would a) allow you utilize or so much as travel through their space without some sort of blue standings arrangement and b) facilitate the replacement of your ships when mistakes happen.

Originally by: Eternum Praetorian

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To your second comment, this is the length and breadth of the diplomacy we have encountered in your space.

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I suppose you must decide what is more important for you: an alliance who will stroke your ego as you see fit, or an alliance who will open their space, no questions asked, and continuously oversee and set to right ships lost in error.

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Originally by: Aditia Holdem

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LOL thread, best thread

I didn¦t know 101¦st SM NAP¦ed people I thought only the NC did that.

This means if u aren¦t NAP¦ed by you, one will get shot providence? Oh my, whatever will we do!!!!

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Originally by: Jakiin

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I believe that the ships destroyed had a low security status, and with standard CVA protocol this means that until they increase their security status they shouldn't come to providence. Apparently this has offended the leadership of this combat alliance, because he feels that they're hot stuff and deserve excemption from the rules.

I give it less than a week before another Alliance declares their undying hatred for CVA and joins U'K in their efforts to undo Project Deliverance.

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Originally by: CCP Applebabe

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Moved to " CAOD ".

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