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SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.04 01:14:00 - [1] u guys know what there is nothing that **es me off more then ninja salvaging. i dont hate the ninjas really even though i think if u are one u are a a hole. but ccp has just been very lazy to fix that bug, thats right a bug. so they are not my wrecks people say? then try and shoot them yourself? heck eve if u are grouped together with another player u cant shoot his wrecks. no matter how much u complain ccp will not fix this so bleh i'm just wasting time typing.....
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.04 02:31:00 - [2] Originally by: Dacryphile Originally by: SCGhozt u guys know what there is nothing that **es me off more then ninja salvaging. i dont hate the ninjas really even though i think if u are one u are a a hole. but ccp has just been very lazy to fix that bug, thats right a bug. so they are not my wrecks people say? then try and shoot them yourself? heck eve if u are grouped together with another player u cant shoot his wrecks. no matter how much u complain ccp will not fix this so bleh i'm just wasting time typing..... Its posts like this that make ninja salvaging worth it. not really, i tried it out myself and i didnt find it fun a torn in the rear for someone else. now if u are that type of person by nature i can see how it fits to some people.
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.05 01:21:00 - [3] Originally by: Trigos Trilobi You forgot the newest addition: Originally by: CCP Incognito Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1208319&page=1#24 Yes i had heard of that from them through ingame mail. and i know this is one of their ways to keep the game i guess to mature people audience (heh) but to me with that ccp says "be an a-hole, it ok" there is nothing mature about that as far as i seen. ok fine be an a-hole but ccp all i want is to be able retaliate if i can. again a waste of time to even bother, ccp just wont fix the "bug" or simply doesnt care about what the majority of people that play eve have said about this issue. intended gameplay? lol please at least come up with another reason.
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.05 03:24:00 - [4] "Part of the fun of EvE is it unrelenting dedication to a harsh environment." i totally agree. like i said i just want to be able to shoot you if i feel like it/care. and yes they could set the rules as they fit, but to me this is just an exploit that people are taking advantage of just like any other bug.
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.06 04:51:00 - [5] Originally by: AvaAlt O look, ANOTHER ninja salvage thread! Its really not that hard, people. Carry a tractor and salvager on your ship and salvage as ya go. what about ships that orbit you like 30-50km away? my slow moving domi will take ages to get there and the mission will be long done too.
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.28 23:42:00 - [6] Originally by: Platte Okeefe Originally by: Domoso Originally by: Platte Okeefe Originally by: Domoso shrugs I could be wrong. You are How can you be sure? Do you believe without question everything you're told? I've got a jumpbridge to sell you. I only require that you make half payment up front of 1bil isk as a downpayment. Because Im not a nitwit like you. Per CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal "Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing." Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up. Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit. Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing. (These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.) Do ya need anymore proof? Yeesh Its EVE if ninja salvaging bugs you that much try Hello Kitty online for Petes sake and there u have it boys and girls.... ccp have their own logic. when i first got ninja salvaged i was like.. wth? why cant i shoot him without concord blowing me up...? isnt he stealing? so i complained to a GM and got one of the above messages. now i'm sure every new mission runner is going to ask a GM the same thing. why? BECAUSE ITS ONLY LOGICAL. i mean who in the right mind cant see that...? even u guys who make your isk like this know this, but of course u guys are not going to admit it. lets all have fun shall we? it would be cool if that would flag people, it could be a pirate trap, or u could be scrap for my pvp alt, who cares. its all part of the fun! also i think this will help boring missions and motivate people carebears to pvp. just my thoughts~
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.30 01:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Tyrathor Banks This mission: Linkage provided me with great satisfaction when the salvager's kestrel went 'pop'. I didnt realise what happened at first until i got a msg from the person and his salvager friend accusing me of destroying the kestrel. Just happened to be my very first time i experienced salvagers dropping in to my missions and i just happened to be near the end of the mission to activate the blast. Just need to say i laughed so much, i told my corp at the time to keep that in mind.... i still laugh now thinking about how funny it was! And yes i looted his wreck and then returned for the hand in....hahahahahahaha..... One of the funniest moments in my EVE time. LOL this happened also to me but he was a friendly corp mate. still i couldnt stop laughing and i did pay for his stuff. on the other hand no one here is talking about it being save for the mission runner or to everything that u do its just for u. hell that would be like calling isk farmers in. it would be nice to fight if i wanted or cared. and to whoever said something about RL wrecks and loot in the ocean being free, that could be true i dont know/care this is eve so tell ccp to make cans free for all again.:P

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