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Tippia
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Posted - 2009.11.02 09:44:00 -
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Because I don't get ninja'd.
…and because it's not that big a deal.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Posted - 2009.11.02 10:08:00 -
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 Originally by: HeliosGal
to get ninja'd goto motsu aunia dodixie amarr rens hek any hub and run lv 3-4 missiona and wait
I did (well, didn't try Rens and Hek). It didn't work. 
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Posted - 2009.11.03 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Drakarin
They only exist because I destroyed them.
Irrelevant. They aren't yours anyway. For destroying the ships, you are rewarded with bounties and loot. Salvage is not part of the package.
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They are a resource I created. They are EXACTLY the same thing as loot, merely requiring a skill to obtain it (which makes it even closer to being like mining, a real profession).
Loot is created by activating a weapon on a ship — you need a weapon skill to do this.
Salvage is created by activating a salvager on a wreck — you need a salvaging skill to do this.
So yes, in that respect, salvage is exactly like loot: you have to earn it by creating it. Notice, however, that shooting a ship does not create salvage — salvaging does. Therefore, if you're not the one who activates the salvager, the salvage isn't yours because you haven't earned it.
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If you can't steal loot, you shouldn't be able to steal salvage.
You can steal salvage the exact same way you steal loot: by taking it out of someone else's can, or by taking it from their smouldering remains. If you don't want your salvage stolen, you shouldn't jettison it to begin with.
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I mean seriously, if the loot on the wreck belongs to me, the salvage does too. Because salvage is loot too.
No. Salvage is salvage, loot is loot. How can this be so hard to understand? You didn't work for the salvage so you didn't earn it so it isn't yours. Very simple.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
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Posted - 2009.11.05 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 05/11/2009 11:26:19
Originally by: Oviramir
Originally by: Dacryphile
Yet if you read CCPs stance, you know it isn't a bug or an exploit, but something CCP wanted to bring about and coded it to allow it.
Just because CCP intended it, doesn't mean we have to agree it is the way it should be.
No, but it means that any argument based on "bug" or "exploit" is inherently void.
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logically
…you would never be able to create any wrecks, because CONCORD would instapwn any rats that spawned. Logic always take a back seat to game play, and in this case, the gameplay dictates that the loot is yours as part of the rewards for killing the rat; that salvage is part of the rewards for being a salvager; and that the two activities are separate and unrelated.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
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Posted - 2009.11.06 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: SCGhozt
Originally by: AvaAlt
O look, ANOTHER ninja salvage thread!
Its really not that hard, people. Carry a tractor and salvager on your ship and salvage as ya go.
what about ships that orbit you like 30-50km away? my slow moving domi will take ages to get there and the mission will be long done too.
So don't fly a slow-moving Domi.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
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