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Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.11.06 04:02:00 -
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Enjoying the hell out of this game.
For someone who loved Baldur's Gate and, to a lesser extent, Neverwinter Nights, playing DA has been like reuniting with an old friend. I've missed solid tactical RPGs, plotting out the actions of a whole party in a big brawl. The story is solid, and boy is it LONG! I've been playing for days and haven't hit the 15% mark.
From what I've been hearing, the PC version is far superior, breaking with a crappy tradition of the PC versions of BioWare games simply being console ports. Hooray for us PC guys for a change.
Anyone else gotten ahold of it yet? -------
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 05:12:00 -
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Got the game, but still downloading. My net been ****ty for the past week or I would be playing it right now. 91% done so far
I have high expectations in this game. Very good reviews so far and good metascore. Can't wait to play. ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |
Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 09:04:00 -
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Just installing it, really looking forward to this, enjoyed all the old Bioware games, and have high hopes this is in part atleast a return to those roots. |
KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.11.06 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: KingsGambit on 06/11/2009 09:34:47 Where did the 'tradition' of BW games being console ports come from? Admittedly the 'cinematic' series of games (KoTOR, JE, ME) were console games first, but in the porting they became great PC games. The UI in all 3 of those work flawlessly with mouse/keyboard. And BW's DnD games were only PC. Hardly a "tradition".
Anyway, DA is excellent. I'm a few hours into city-born elven rogue, just hit Lvl 7 in Lothering. The origin story set the tone for the game perfectly, it's so gritty and visceral and doesn't pull any punches. I found it particularly amusing while I had a conversation with a young boy who asked if I had seen his mother, whilst my party were armed, armoured and splattered head to toe in blood with nary an eyebrow raised or a word spoken. The gameplay is exactly what you'd expect but, I can't honestly say that it's BioWare standard.
It seems to me to be very....well, and I hate myself for saying this...but it's MMO like. The action-bar/cool down thing, the stamina/mana thing, even the colours of those respective bars and not to mention those blasted glowing exclamation marks. The skill tree system, the stealth mechanic...it just feels like an MMO. The graphics are mixed too, varying between jaw dropping and cheap looking (on a GTX285 with everything maxed!). The voice acting for important characters is stellar (well the King was a bit of a wet fish) but for everyone else isn't so great. And why after how well it worked in ME, could't they voice the PC?
I guess at lower levels, with fewer skills altogether, combat isn't quite so tactical as I expect it will be. Perhaps I should use the tac view more here. But I do hope that in time the NPCs who join the party will develop the same way as Imoen, Minsc, Jaheira, Viconia, Korgan, Aeria, Keldorn, Edwin et all did. Though the GFX seem to be a small step backward after ME, the sound is superb and it does tick all the right RPG boxes. And I'm sure I've barely scratched the surface.
I got all the bonus content from DA: Journeys, the Collectors Ed, both DLCs and the crumby ring from using Char Creator, but no pre-order thing OP is right about the story, it is excellently written and immersive, the whole origin thing really contributes here. Already looking forward to dwarf noble warrior, dalish elf archer, human magi and can't decide on last two -------------
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 09:58:00 -
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Had a look but you seem to be more of a spectator than an actual part of the whole thing, it felt really detached. ----------- ADM-I |
Travarica
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Posted - 2009.11.06 12:42:00 -
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Baldurs Gate vet here! And i agree with most of your comments. I have been waiting for a long time for something like this, Oblivion and similar stuff just doesn't cut it for me.
I REALLY enyojed game so far, be it combat, conversation or char management, it all seems in place and logical!
9.5/10 from me
I eve put EVE on a break for this :)
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Aarin Wrath
Caldari Dominion Strategic
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Posted - 2009.11.06 14:53:00 -
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I have been playing it since release. Loving it! It's difficult, (I die alot), good plot, cool animations, excelent graphics.
Only down side so far is that the conversation system it feels a lot like Mass Effect in a fantasy world. Lots and lots of talking.
Got the Shale DLC ... man hes hilarious :) (some guy said hes like the new HK-47 ... and I have to agree!)
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Croesus
Caldari Titan Indurstrial
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Posted - 2009.11.06 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Croesus on 06/11/2009 15:06:23 loved baldurs gate and am downloading the game. hoping its good. read at eurogamer review that the game was soulless and bioware has lost something along the line,sence of fantasy or fantastical, hoping they are wrong.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.11.06 15:14:00 -
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I'm glad to see a new game, that has the potential of being another good RPG. I'll wait a few months before buying though, since people always get excited about a new game and it takes time to see, if the depth and complexity is there to keep the game living past the first playthrough.
Not to mention, I want to see how modders feel about the possibilities of adding content to the game. If they don't see a future for it, I'll buy it at the discount bin at some point or borrow it from someone.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.11.06 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva Had a look but you seem to be more of a spectator than an actual part of the whole thing, it felt really detached.
If you mean with regard to your part in the story, then I think that's actually intentional. I get the impression that we're meant to feel like a small fish in a big pond, at least at the point I've reached so far.
***MAJOR SPOILERS *** MAJOR SPOILERS *** MAJOR SPOILERS *** MAJOR SPOILERS***
Although the city elf origin story does revolve more around the PC, once I was forced to accompany Duncan and later, after the joining & enusing battle, the PC was very much stranded in the wide world with a seemingly herculean task ahead. It's quite unlike BG(II) where the PC, as one of the Bhaalspawn is actually the primary focus of the game.
***END SPOILERS *** END SPOILERS *** END SPOILERS *** END SPOILERS*** Originally by: Croesus loved baldurs gate and am downloading the game. hoping its good. read at eurogamer review that the game was soulless and bioware has lost something along the line,sence of fantasy or fantastical, hoping they are wrong.
I wouldn't call it souless, but something is definitely lacking. I just can't put my finger on what that is precisely. The story is fantastic and immersive, and looks, sounds and plays well. Up until lvl 7 there's not a great amount of RP to be had, but I expect that as we level there's more opportunity to individualise. It's good enough that it's worth finding out for yourself at the very least. -------------
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.06 18:43:00 -
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Just bought it. Downloading now on Steam. God help you all this better be as good as i've read _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.11.06 19:51:00 -
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I started playing it last night and have been enjoying it so far. The mini movie interactions suck when you're on skype or vent though.
Character: "So you are.." Friend:"..SO THIS TV SHOW IM WATCHING IS REALLY COOL!" me: "Mother****er! You couldn't have said something a second ago when I was just running around!"
Repeat that every 5 minutes.
Anyways the combat/movement for me reminds me of Dungeon Siege with added combat styles on a task bar. I was going to go dual wield but I'm kind of partial to shield bashing now. Also the party tactics is rather impressive and it gives you a very impressive list to go through. That will come in handy if one group member is a healer and you can't be arsed to pause every 3 seconds to click to him to heal a party member.
I get a kick out of the blood thing as well. First thing I kill is a handful of rats and it looks like I smashed them and rubbed myself in their blood or something. The graphics are very pretty and now I want to get Win7 more than ever so I can see this in DX10.
I've also noticed that armor weight affects stamina. Very nice little touch. Sure your a walking behemoth now but you can't take more than 3 swings with that 2 handed sword without being winded.
Anyways I'm hoping to be able to get into a little more later tonight, I barely had a chance to even scratch the surface last night.
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Cornaris
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:43:00 -
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DA:O = Win
Hint: its not going to be a bargain bin title for some time.
I dont see how this could be enjoyable to play on a console, if youve got a proper pc, get that.
We could nitpick the problems with it, as there are a few things that keep it from being perfect.
But i think it would be better to say this is hands down, the best rpg. ever.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:47:00 -
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Is the story and gameplay good enough to make me forget the fact that it is yet another fantasy based rpg with swords and pretty spell effects?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Is the story and gameplay good enough to make me forget the fact that it is yet another fantasy based rpg with swords and pretty spell effects?
Don't even bother.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:54:00 -
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20% down.
Damn you crappy internet connection and steam bugs. I was at 20% earlier but then for some reason it went back to 0% Hoping it doesn't happen again. Gonna take long enough downloading this monster at 500kb/sec as it is. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Zeba Is the story and gameplay good enough to make me forget the fact that it is yet another fantasy based rpg with swords and pretty spell effects?
Don't even bother.
I wasn't being negative just practical. I have played these type of games for literally decades and to interest me it really has to shine and make me forget its a game. If I am moved by the story and gameplay then I forget I'm on yet another quest with my trusty mates to defeat the dark lord/king/vampire/generic baddy and his ebil minions. Does this achieve that?
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karma militia
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: karma militia on 06/11/2009 23:42:26 Can't talk now, I've just started playing through Baldur's Gate TuTu.
Game looks pretty cool, but there is something intangible about it that is bothering me. It's like a vague sense of boredom, a lack of will to live. Could be the ghost of oblivion.
Be back in a month.
Originally by: Corwain
The human race is going extinct soon and you all ****ing deserve it.
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.07 01:32:00 -
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I've been playing the game non-stop basically since Tuesday. A lack of sleep will testify to that.
Absolutely loving every second of it. It does slow down a bit after the intro, but it picks up again after a few levels. I'm really enjoying everything about it. The story, voice acting, etc. is amazing.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.07 12:35:00 -
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Download finished some time while i was asleep. Playing it now... First impressions aren't all that bad. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.08 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit It seems to me to be very....well, and I hate myself for saying this...but it's MMO like. The action-bar/cool down thing, the stamina/mana thing, even the colours of those respective bars and not to mention those blasted glowing exclamation marks. The skill tree system, the stealth mechanic...it just feels like an MMO. The graphics are mixed too, varying between jaw dropping and cheap looking (on a GTX285 with everything maxed!). The voice acting for important characters is stellar (well the King was a bit of a wet fish) but for everyone else isn't so great. And why after how well it worked in ME, could't they voice the PC?
Cooldowns are a fairly good way of balancing powerful abilities. You don't want to give a player an instantly repeatable way to stun enemies on a single character, for example. Health is a given, stamina and lyrium/mana are more ways of limiting abilities.
To make it short, the system works. To be fair, they also tried to balance the abilities around group play. On normal the difficulty is just about perfect, i have to pause constantly and readjust my tactics to the situation.... Dreading how difficult it is on higher settings though.
Character development is... Odd, in a way. There is development, but in a very strange way. I dislike the approval system, as it makes things far too straightforward as far as relationships go - It seems to drag the game away from it's own focus on consequences following choices which aren't entirely clear at first. I'm also hoping for some more story development. First impressions were good though, the conversations between Morrigan and Leilani are hilarious at times, and did hark me back to good ol' BG2.
I'm not far enough into the game to say more yet, but: It does come as close as it gets to BG2 as you could get nowadays. The story so far is pretty good, definately a step up from the usual fantasy tripe we get. Despite knowing who the real bad guy is, you still get lulled into the notion that.... Well, you'll find out.
What it is though, is the best RPG since Kotor. It has it's flaws, but (at least so far) they're pretty small.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.11.08 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 08/11/2009 17:20:42 Download finished sometime last night (3 AM or so), after getting up this morning I started playing after getting all the DLC to work (there were a few problems, not to many though). I just closed the client for the first time to restart my PC as it does seem to slow down after a while. Probably a minor memory leak.
One of the DLC rings I received for the Steam Pre-order lacks stats, but other than that I haven't encountered any real bugs.
Haven't gotten that far into the game yet obviously, but so far the impression is quite positive. It's been a long time since an RPG has managed to pull me in like this, I really like that.
I kind of regret also purchasing Divinity 2: Ego Draconis now, as I probably won't play that much in the foreseeable future.
The mechanics feel different, yet extremely familiar at the same time, haven't died yet at normal difficulty, but battles take a little forethought to get right. Not that I had many difficult ones yet, the Ogre in the signal tower was the first real challenge. I can't wait to see more of this game.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.11.08 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 08/11/2009 17:58:03 Yeah I've been experiencing that memory leak as well. Also I don't know about anyone else but the massive load times do bug me.
Anyways I feel I really screwed up on my warrior,got him in a spot that I can't get out of considering my team has one small heal pot and an army of undead to fight. So I made a mage, mostly for the heal ability which all my other characters lacked, but I'm rather enjoying him, his spells, and the graphics associated with the previous 2. His starter story was rather enjoyable as well.
I'm also taking my more time with this one as it appears that there was a buttload of stuff I missed in the swamp for side quest (learning to use the codex now). I do enjoy not watching my party die to one man at every battle though.
Edit: This game had me up to 4 am in the morning with that mage.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.11.08 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 08/11/2009 17:58:03 Yeah I've been experiencing that memory leak as well. Also I don't know about anyone else but the massive load times do bug me.
The load times are indeed pretty bad, and they seem to get worse over time (guessing that's the leak again). I tolerate them, but only because I enjoy the playing bits so much. Guess a faster computer (or atleast more RAM) is in order to help cut back on that a bit.
As for casualties in combat, so far those are minimal, generally that warrior gets himself killed, although I managed to cut that down a LOT by using a tactic slot to instruct him to consume a healing potion should his health drop below 30% and letting the AI do the rest. Those programmable tactics slots are awesome though, you can set up nice behaviours with them.
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2009.11.08 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 08/11/2009 19:56:09 Fortunately I haven't experienced said memory leakage. It loads swiftly, I rarely have the time to read the messages on the loading screen. Very nice game. Have to restart since I managed to gimp my char, I'll probably pick a different race this time as well.
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Wrayeth
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.11.09 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/11/2009 07:26:06 I've been playing this game pretty much nonstop since it came out, aside from work and those other things that are required to allow me to continue feeding my gaming addiction.
It reminds me a lot of one of my favorite games of all time, Baldur's Gate II, though it has some significant deviations in gameplay. While I have been really enjoying it, there are a few things that do bug me. The first is the fact that all of the combat scales with your character level. It would be nice to occasionally be able to just kick back and wipe out a massive group of lower level enemies with ease, giving you that sense of advancement and that your character is becoming a badass.
My other beef is that there is less inter-party interaction in DA:O than there was in Baldur's Gate 2. Sure, they all interact with the main character, but, aside from Morrigan and Alistair sniping at each other, they rarely seem to speak to any party members aside from the main character. The occasional inter-party conversations and conflicts were one of the things I enjoyed about the Baldur's Gate series - that little addition made party members seem more like real people and less like simple plot devices for the main character.
In any case, if you're playing a mage, I highly recommend picking up the Arcane Warrior specialization. It'll turn your main character into an absolute juggernaut, and if you've bought the collector's edition you can even use the blood dragon armor. Basically, you kick back and shoot off spells until you run out of mana, then switch to combat magic and wade into the fray with sword and shield and massive bonuses to each. Alternately, when fighting enemies that have high resists to magic but weak resists against physical attacks (see: arcane horror), just activate combat magic, activate spell shield, switch to sword and shield, then run right up and start beating on them. Works like a charm. EDIT: It's important to note that, even with combat magic inactive, you still get to substitute your magic for the strength requirement for arms and armor. Hence, you can still wear heavy armor while turning your enemies into crispy critters with spells.
Another tactic I've found very effective: earthquake + tempest. Knock your enemies on their asses for a long duration, then slowly kill them with a lightning storm while you focus on the enemy heavies. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |
KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.11.09 09:27:00 -
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I've been quite lucky too then, perhaps. No memory leaks or loading time issues at all. Game runs smooth as silk with nary a graphical glitch or framerate slowdown in sight. Also, my comment regarding GFX earlier...some of the indoor environments can give you pause, they're simply brilliant.
Just past lvl 15 on my city elf rogue, probably a little over halfway thru the game. Chose assassin and ranger specs, dual runed-up longswords rock. The problem with doing quite high damage is that the PC keeps drawing monsters' attention away from Alistair or Shale. Arcane Warrior sounds like fun, might give that a go next playthru -------------
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Adam C
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.11.09 09:34:00 -
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Discussed this yesterday, Dragon Age had my attention because it seems next generation in terms of game-play and from the makers from Mass Effect.
Saying Mass Effect, one sticking point for me was the character interaction I can't quite get over the fact that the player dudes are mute <lines of text a,b,c> npc <Song and Dance, Bells and Whistles>
That really cheapens the interaction quality for me and a deal breaker.
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Wrayeth
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.11.09 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/11/2009 09:56:29
Originally by: KingsGambit The problem with doing quite high damage is that the PC keeps drawing monsters' attention away from Alistair or Shale. Arcane Warrior sounds like fun, might give that a go next playthru
I noticed that as well. It was rather annoying when I was simply a mage. Now that I have arcane warrior and 50-something armor, though, it's not as much of a problem. And you can even heal yourself, whether it's through healing spells (which my character doesn't actually have) or through the vulnerability hex/life drain combo (which he does; killing your opponent while healing yourself is what it's all about). -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |
KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.11.09 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Adam C Saying Mass Effect, one sticking point for me was the character interaction I can't quite get over the fact that the player dudes are mute <lines of text a,b,c> npc <Song and Dance, Bells and Whistles>
That really cheapens the interaction quality for me and a deal breaker.
To the best of my knowledge, Mass Effect is the only RPG that has absolutely every single line of text fully voiced over. So what you're saying is no other RPG ever made is up to your exacting standards? If you miss out on DA:O because the PC isn't voiced over, you're the one missing out dude. -------------
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