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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:55:00 -
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i am sure fully upgraded system - about 2 bil isk a month - will support much more than 10 people.
Then Monthly cost per month will be laughable.
I see multi time zone corp/alliances benefit from it. They can operate in much lesser space with greater efficieny.
Also moons will not become worthless , and more minerals will be profitable to mine that will help paying bills for sure.
Also i dont like upgrade that spawn wormholes. It will cripple game for wormhole corporations.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.07 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/11/2009 12:44:49
Honestly 2 bil per month for fully upgraded system is not a lot considering constant flow of isks and moon mining BUT just remember
CCP maybe into something to design cool null-sec.
Its not a desing of new 0.0 that is broken it is a lvl4s and hi sec.
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No, financially the higher tier anomalies pretty much match level 4s.
Buahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahah muhahahaha
rotfl.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.07 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/11/2009 18:46:13
I think that increasing rat bounties in 0.0 by about 30% would make a diffrence !
This with nerfing lvl4 by eliminating t1 loot , would shift risk/reward balance .
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.07 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Russell
Edited by: Tomas Russell on 07/11/2009 20:04:33
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Nyphur
5) Why is 0.0 not more profitable than level 4 missions, even after the upgrades?
Always because the jump between 0 and 1 is the largest in cost and effort of each activity beyond that. We are acutely aware of this issue and the related issue of agents in sovereign space. Ideally we will tackle both issues with brand new content specifically designed for social groups and adequately rewarding.
Do you realise that this is not even close to being an answer to his question? And that it reads like a cross between the autistic kid that eats glue in grade 3b and a marketing executive?
"Gnargle gnarf blurf, square root of seventy three, incentivize the synergy of your human resource, burble".
No offense meant, if you are actually the autistic kid who eats glue in grade 3b, or a CCP marketing executive. Or both.
Well plexes and wormholes are , i guess anomalys are just to keep constant isks flows so you have always something to farm isks from.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.07 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
excellent clarity of vision I must say!
It is true and something we said from outset that unbalanced alliances who are 95% PvP/Fleet and 5% industry will be most affected by this as we are reducing their dependency on passive point sources and introducing greater active resource density to allow for passive income to take over.
The alliances who will benefit most are those who have or aim to have balanced compositions of people with different playstyles or even act as enforcers or protectors of the space with multiple rental agreements if they wish and we will add tools as we call the treaty system to help facilitate that.
Yes the vision is gret and i agree with it , but i have 2 words for you :
* hi-sec
* lvl4
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Slobodanka
Originally by: Vadinho
Originally by: Nilania Telshua
Due to the Epeen provided by leaking an alliance colour all over the sovmap and considering the players decision to choose pew pew over mindless profit by industry trading or missioning, should all pve content be removed from 0.0 to further the glory of our hardcore idols ? That is the question. Yes or No ?
Mindless Drones.. buzz.. buzz...
no because then we still wouldnt have any reason to fight over space
You get two anomalies guaranteed!!! Two!! At all times!!!
If those anomalies were actually worth something. f..e it were 2 anoamyls comprapable with income of c3 wormhole or higer , that would make a HUGE diffrence
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vadinho
Originally by: Marlona Sky
You mean players will have to decide if it worth it to claim space and upgrade it based on income and logistics?
The audacity of CCP!!!
they wont have to decide - it just isnt
It is , i will be happy to settle in delve when you finish packing your things out and leave .
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tamahra
not only that, i fear. CCP is in a real danger to pull their own NGE now, if they mess up with Dominion.
As of now, its required to delay the expansion and put it back to the drawingboard. Once the harm is done, it is done. but they can still turn the wheel and come up with something good.
When theres such a huge outcry from the playerbase, you as a developer MUST react to it.
Pulling it through, as it is planned now, goes against the vast majority of the goons and other huge alliances. And that would be an NGE.
Fixed that for you.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 09/11/2009 18:52:11
CCP stated that pure military alliance will be haveing trouble keeping space , i am sure you all goonies missed that part.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: teji
Edited by: teji on 09/11/2009 18:56:05
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 09/11/2009 18:52:11
CCP stated that pure military alliance will be haveing trouble keeping space , i am sure you all goonies missed that part.
Goonies aren't even close to a pure military alliance. I'm sure you missed that part. Or you might have missed the part where the current costs make it unprofitable for any type of alliance to hold many systems in 0.0.
Great i hope you leaving delve, when you finish packing your stuff i will be happy to move there.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 09/11/2009 19:24:24
Originally by: Qlanth
Once again I will say that as an alliance GoonSwarm has been preparing for R64 nerf, an increase to the cost of maintaining space, and an increase to the cost of infrastructure (jump brides, cyno jammers). I won't speak for other alliances but I am sure they have been doing the exact same thing.
If there is a single alliance, however, that has nothing to fear after this patch it is GoonSwarm. Smaller alliances or alliances deep in 0.0 without direct access to empire (those that rely heavily on jumpbridge networks to keep their logistics chain intact) are the ones who have to most to lose from this patch. The carrot at the end of the stick was supposed to be the ability for average alliance members to be able to support themselves on an individual level while also maintaining their own space for upgrades. CCP has given us the stick, but there was no carrot.
IF its not worth it then why are you staying there ????? Are you stupid ?
Oh wait ...
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tesal
YES OR NO: Can I have your stuff.
Seriosly.
CCP:
* 75 % of crying post are off goons, sudden defenders of small alliances .
* Changes and upkeep cost sound pretty good but there IS still problem with lvl4.
* Consider icreasing bounties of rats so running anomalies will be some more profitable of lvl4 .
* It could good to add some more usefull upgrades some of which were mentioned in this thread.
* Chaniging moon stuff in BPO requirments for t2 stuff was the worst way to deal with moon minerals changes , i am dissapointed in this regard. We still dont know how it will impact EVE economy
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Pointfive
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Originally by: Tesal
YES OR NO: Can I have your stuff.
Seriosly.
CCP:
* 75 % of crying post are off goons, sudden defenders of small alliances .
* Changes and upkeep cost sound pretty good but there IS still problem with lvl4.
* Consider icreasing bounties of rats so running anomalies will be some more profitable of lvl4 .
* It could good to add some more usefull upgrades some of which were mentioned in this thread.
* Chaniging moon stuff in BPO requirments for t2 stuff was the worst way to deal with moon minerals changes , i am dissapointed in this regard. We still dont know how it will impact EVE economy
The majority of the wgoons re not hining about moon or sov prices, they are complaining about the same ****. The null sec income being crap and level 4s being too good.
I have heards goons crying about :
* Star wars game and expansion that killed it NGE ? And saying it is coming to eve
* That 0.0 is now worthless and they are going to farm lvl4 , then saying they stay for other reasons when i am talking about moving to delve.
* insulting other poeple beggining on that some have no idea of 0.0 and they(goons) knows everything ending on nerds that lives in mothers basement.
* complaints that now they cant pvp in carriers and titans for free.
* complaining that now they cant cyno jam and jump bridge entire regions.
* crying about small alliances that they suddenly feel so much sympathy for that they cant afford to hold sov.
and many more that i missed ...
And no, null sec is no crap after expansion.
Moons + rats + hi lvl plexes + hi lvl wormholes gives very decent income. You just have to work a litte more ( no more afk empires ) and cant roll caps like they were rifters.
The anomalies are there to give you opportunity to keep isks flowing 23/7. The only thing i dont like they are at the level with lvl4.They should give more.
Also mining is broken beacuse of : lvl4 loot and drones .But thats the diffrent story.
Also CCP what about drones regions. How do you compensate no bounties thing ?
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 09/11/2009 22:38:40
Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 09/11/2009 22:37:13
dude i will not sort through 90 pages , really.
I am sure there are there , maybe your not one of them personally though.
And i agree arguing on forums is like ... i am sure we both know this.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.11.13 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Arkady Sadik
For those who missed it, current SiSi prices (which can change still, of course):
TCU: 1m ISK / day
Hub: 5m ISK / day
Jump bridge: 10m ISK / day
Cyno gen: 2m ISK / day
Cyno jammer: 20m ISK / day
CSAA: 1m ISK / day
This is correct for the current version on sisi. The only upcoming change as of today was shifting all the upkeep onto the TCU from the hub (TCU will be 6mill per day, hub will have no upkeep cost).
There may well be more changes to come in the days ahead and we are writing another blog which publicises the more updated figures and hoovers up lots of other important issues like specifics on transition between old and new to ensure everyone is clear on what will happen for example and any significant changes to the conquest mechanics which we need to detail if necessary.
Do i understand it correctly 180 per month for holding a system ?
WTF ??
Its even cheaper than it is now fueling POSES , and no logistic required.
Talking about holding terirory just for sake of holding it.
Are you out of your mind listening to goons , having at least half of the whining post of that we know off ??? And goods knows how many alts they rolled into this topic just to make you soft.
I am dissapointed CCP.
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