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ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.07 08:39:00 - [1] Originally by: Hratli Smirks so long as there exists any better alternative option, like level 4 missions. Belts are a finite resource, but missions aren't. yep lvl 4 missions are the holy grail of isk/hr comparison. lets nerf the **** out of em in high sec, its been years in the coming. i would celebrate the day lvl 4 agents in high sec generate a fixed amount of missions which are replenished hourly. say 100 missions /hr or less. watch motsu and other major hubs flat-line when the hundreds of ravens/cnrs/golems have MAYBE 1 mission / hr available. make it 200 /hr for lowsec and 1000/hr for nullsec (due to hardly any stations with agents. numbers are negotiable for low and null sec but High sec has so goddamn many lvl 4 agents that 100/hr is acceptable in my opinion. IF CCP would crank down the isk fountain that is endless high sec level 4 mission spam then they could afford to be more lenient in the isk sinks. as it stands with dominion null sec alliances will be paying for the excesses of the high sec mission grinders and i mean that LITERALLY. they bring in billions of isk into the game in bounties and mission rewards and YOU will be paying billions of isk to compensate. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.10 12:27:00 - [2] Originally by: McDaddy Pimp It seems that the biggest concern here is that the isk/hour in 0.0 wont be much better then lvl4s to justify the upkeep of a 0.0 system. for now and only with the currently unveiled upgrades. over time ccp can keep adding upgrades to make motsu isk/hr look like chump change, something most people don't consider. Originally by: McDaddy Pimp For "peaceful" type alliance. 1. System wide taxation of rat bounties. A percentage of each rat bounties will go to the system owners, and these can also be set to percentage based on standings etc. Blues pay 5%, neutral 10%, reds 20% etc. except every (NBSI) alliance will set non-blue taxes to 100%. Originally by: McDaddy Pimp CVA wont go bankrupt and we probally will see more CVA-type alliance. they shat out outposts left and right, maybe they deserve to go bankrupt. "too big to fail" sound familiar? Originally by: McDaddy Pimp CCP stated they want more empire carebear coming to 0.0, imo the only way to archive this is by making 0.0 more carebear friendly. Here are some suggestions (disclaimer, these ideas may sound a bit extrema, so maybe CCP can figure out a more toned-down version of them) 1. Bubble immunity (!) bonus to ships within system (make it an infrastructure upgrade which cost isk per day) oh, HELL NO! its bad enough that T3 cruisers can warp through bubbles but you want to extend that to all ships? overpowered, atleast T3 have to make fitting sacrifices and deal with the price tag. Originally by: McDaddy Pimp 2. Align time bonus infrastructure upgrade 3. Warp speed bonus infrastructure upgrade 4. Warp strength bonus (max +2 maybe) infrastructure upgrade, this combined with bubble immunity, will make some 0.0 system true carebear heaven. Although tackling ships is still possible... umm tackling will be IMPOSSIBLE... as it stands NO ratter in 0.0 EVER gets tackled IF he/she is watching local. even a plated bs has plenty of time to align and warp to safe then cloak before a tackler can shake jump cloak, find ratter and then align+warp, target and lay 1 point on ratter. now you want to make it so the ratter aligns faster, warps faster AND require a tackler to fit THREE points??? dude im a carebear and i think that's f-ing ******ed. the stuff i didn't quote don't have any glaring obvious issues i noticed. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.10 12:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Droog 1 Who is running this game. CCP or Goons? depends on who you ask... the majority of posters in this thread, CCP "Stoffer" Soundwave, or the CSM. seriously though i don't think it's just the goons ... it's the vast majority of the playerbase that has an undue sense of entitlement running rampant. to wit: demanding CCP to answer any question a player comes up with, demanding game changes, threatening CCP financially, threatening CCP employees, the list goes on. when all i said and done CCP owns this game, "our" characters, the servers, this forum. the only thing we RENT from CCP is access to the game servers. IF 200k subs got canceled over this as some goon ranted about 90pages ago CCP would most likely reduce expansion release time to one per 2yrs and simply throw their manpower into World of Darkness and Dust. Games die.. I doubt CCP depends on our subs for their daily bread though they make a pretty penny of us. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.10 12:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Kepakh beating his head against the wall dude it's an enraged bee.. you can swat it with rolled up reason and spray it with common sense and it'll just keep on buzzing. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.10 13:11:00 - [5] Originally by: Marlona Sky ENOUGH! Adapt or die. It is in fact that simple. i'm with you on this, but i doubt it will end this threadnought. also it's amazing that people still expect CCP responses after 60 pages of silence and the treatment CCP soundwave and CCP chronotis received. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.10 13:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Hertford I would imagine most players who want to be in 0.0 are already in 0.0. i have to disagree here, there are tons of players interested in 0.0. the cost for sov isn't holding them back, the current alliances are... dominion won't change that one bit. wannabe nullsec alliance finds some "empty" space, plops down towers and gets annihilated for the lulz. then either wiped out or forced into virtual slave labor as meat shield pets to be reset and wiped out whenever the overlords are bored. whether the current powerblocks are all over the sov map or reduce sov to key systems won't change the fact that YOU are the biggest stick of 0.0. yes 0.0 is all about the survival of the fittest but if you won't let a weakling live today you won't have sport tomorrow. the only benefit to a small outfit post dominion is the lack of umbrella cyno jammers and MAYBE some solar systems without any towers up already. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 00:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Hertford I now ask the question that if 0.0 was more of an incentive than it currently is, would there be more players joining the "Want to Move to 0.0" camp? the answer to your question is an empathic HELL YEAH! i first ventured out into 0.0, solo flying my rupture into a wartorn region (catch during the MC/FIX assault on IAC). because IAC allowed me to rat around FAT-6P in exchange for intel. now why did i go there when i hardly had enough isk to buy ammo, let alone replace my ship? because in a few hours of killing sansha BS spawns i had tripled my eve assets... a few days and ruptures later i was in a typhoon... talk about incentive. i grant you that Dominion as it stands does not provide a large enough incentive to counter the LVL4 holy grail. but we all know CCP likes to roll out barebone stuff and flesh it out over time, patience with the upgrades is key here i think. however i propose (yet again) that lvl 4 agents in high sec should only have x amount of missions per hour available. say 100 missions per agent per hour to start with. leave low sec agents alone and we have a massive carrot for low sec living, while at the same time skewing the isk/hr relation of high sec and null sec toward null and a more risky lifestyle. the total removal of lvl 4 missions from highsec is too heavy handed same as knocking off 80% profit. off topic: im agreeing with a goon and not only is he being civil he agrees with me if dominion achieves NOTHING, it has atleast brought a level of actual discussion to this forum that i have never seen before. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 01:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Banlish Originally by: McDaddy Pimp CVA wont go bankrupt and we probally will see more CVA-type alliance. they shat out outposts left and right, maybe they deserve to go bankrupt. "too big to fail" sound familiar? They shat out outposts in the WORST region of space (seriously even IMMENSEA and PUREBLIND have better resources) and they turned it into a 0.0 mecha for anyone that could abide by the rules. They litterally took a region that has the economics of low sec and turned it into something that most everyone in this game can respect. That isn't 'to big to fail' it's hard work in a crappy place that shouldn't be punished. i concede the other point but CVA chose their spot. It's self-inflicted pain nothing else. yes they deserve recognition for what they accomplished BUT that does not entitle them to special treatment. they over-extended themselves by exploiting a broken sov system and should have realized it wouldn't last when rumors of a sov change started. instead they engaged goonswarm in a race of how many outposts an alliance can dump onto the map. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 01:56:00 - [9] Originally by: KeratinBoy So, the devs stated that this expansion would help smaller alliances in crappier space and chose CVA as their example. Looking at the proposed changes, CVA get surprised without lube. And you see nothing wrong with that disconnect? what disconnect? so some dev shot of at the mouth about how he loves CVA... since when is CVA a small alliance? looking at what we know of the changes CVA is only getting "surprised without lube" because they rely on broken cyno jammers, sov 4 pos invulnerability to defend the crap heap of outposts they built. The extent of Treaties hasn't even been revealed, it is highly feasible that Treaties will make NRDS the de-facto only way to go in 0.0 by say permitting the taxing of non-alliance pilots. that alone could finance the 1.6bil / mo for a fully sov'ed, bridged, jammed system for each of their outposts. it may not, the point is WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME HOW SHAFTED THEY ARE! "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 02:30:00 - [10] Originally by: KeratinBoy You agree we are getting shafted then? YOU aren't getting shafted, i admitted that CVA is getting shafted. i argue that CVA brought it on themselves though. Goons are in a great position post expansion with the best space 0.0 has to offer. not to mention you have the member base to actually exploit all that space. so how exactly are YOU getting shafted? because you can move into a cluster of npc stations, run pirate lvl 4's and continue to exploit all of delve's resources even without strangling it with sov 3...? or is the loss of the delve subway THAT big of a deal? i admit it was nice having that on hand when pushing back AAA and Kenny but is it THAT important to you? "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."

ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 03:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Paha Soho how in the name of god is any alliance expected to hold sov over an entire region now? they're not.. that's half the reason for the sov change. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 03:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Professor Dumbledore Have you ever seen a picture of the delve subway? i have a hell of a time understanding it with how many intersecting lines and directions is goes. i still have a few printouts i annotated on my desk right here. the ones i have are pretty straight forward. what i found most annoying was the constant re-connecting, latest list said X links to Y but it actually linked to A, but on the third wednesday after a heavy rainstorm it linked to B which linked to Y. good defense against abuse since goonies have the most public jumpy pswd ever. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 03:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Kayl Breinhar many good points i agree with most of what you typed, with a few exceptions. the greatest wars were fought over purely player created drama.. SirTrolle's speeches of total EvE subjugation fuelled a hatred and subsequent vicious war. You as a Goon of all people should know what happened when he said he'd kill you off completely. all this talk of no more large scale warfare due to lack of R64 importance is misguided. post-dominion there will be 4 R64 to fight over not 2, as well as 2(?) types of R32's? how about the few sov'ed systems alliances will continue to hold?? talk about a friggin multi-billion isk target ... i agree that goons will keep parts of the subway running and so will any other alliance worth their logisticians... but with the increased cost and effort of building and maintaining a JB route it increases dramatically in target profile! again just by existing its worth a few billion in upgrades and x days of sov. just a few points on warfare post dominion as i see it. about goons standing up for the little guy... well i have a hard time believing EVE's resident scammer alliance. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 05:20:00 - [14] Edited by: ServantOfMask on 11/11/2009 05:25:20 Originally by: Qlanth Originally by: Zastrow im expecting a new dev blog that's going to resolve all of this any second now The Council of Stellar Management ladies and gentleman yeah i guess this is a slap in the face for anyone who thought voting for 0.0-centric CSM candidates would matter. edit: and this is coming from one Mazzillu's voters... god what a waste of my votes. "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."
ServantOfMask Minmatar Eye Bee Em	Posted - 2009.11.11 11:10:00 - [15] Originally by: gambrinous local becomes exponentially useless over about 25-30 in system. you need a bigger screen come to think of it... so do i "Misina Arlath GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls."

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