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Miss Xoco Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.11.07 05:34:00 - [1] Ok people, i might need some help from very talented ship fitters. Some mate told me that he got a CNR and it will be totaly unbeatable by anything else except ships not allowed in high sec. Is that true or not true? Who knows. Cant say every detail about his fit but the estimated fit from the CNR will contain: -X shield booster -Active general resist hardeners -Torpedos or cruise missiles -MWD scrambler, so MWD ships cant truly come close and use optimal range And the blue pill :) And the ships i could use against the insane powerman: -Vindicator and Navy Megathron -Machariel -Loki -Wolf and Jaguar Is there any fit possible to beat him? Or is the CNR truly the ruler? Good question. The ship might have a weakness against fast flying AB ships, but he will use webber drones i guess because his biggest weakness is the very slow speed. And he said im not allowed to use more than 1 Neut = whoot. Help me to destroy the EVE powerman!
GGjita	Posted - 2009.11.07 05:37:00 - [2] a dual repped nuet domi will eat it pretty easy
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2009.11.07 05:41:00 - [3] Quote: And he said im not allowed to use more than 1 Neut Funny how he has to set restrictions on being "totally unbeatable". Whoever this guy is, he's a scrub.
Miss Xoco Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.11.07 05:47:00 - [4] Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 05:54:55 Dominix? Sounds hard to believe. I got that ship and yes its dual repped. But against such a bastard CNR? shrugs The "totally" is out of my mind because none was ever able. So lets say "almost". But now i got a brainstorm: Why not to use a AB instead of a MWD on a Mega, so i can come close.
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2009.11.07 05:53:00 - [5] Damage Control II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II 100MN Afterburner II Stasis Webifier II Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Scan Resolution Dampening Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I and **** with Ogre IIs Can throw it faction reppers or strong pills, since he'll probably be using the same in his l33t solo pwnmobile.
King Rothgar Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.11.07 05:59:00 - [6] Neut the crap out of him. In fact I bet a pilgrim would ruin his day. Neut domi is a good option, full passive tank, slap 3 plates on it and 3 trimarks. With a full rack of heavy and medium neuts in the highs, his active tank will instantly collapse and he'll die horribly. His restriction on no neuts would be like me saying nothing can beat my curse, except other drone and missile boats. That statement is true but I just eliminated half the ships in the game with that statement. -----------------------------------------------------
Miss Xoco Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:00:00 - [7] So you wanna NOS it down and only attack by Ogre drones? You think the DPS is enough when only using Ogres? And what ship type to use?
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Miss Xoco So you wanna NOS it down and only attack by Ogre drones? You think the DPS is enough when only using Ogres? And what ship type to use? Depends, ogres will do most damage, unless he's reading this thread and going to tank thermal. The idea is that you will outlast his cap booster hold, he won't be able to rep anymore, and die a horrible death. This doesn't always work because you will be burning your reppers at MAX POWER, while he will be bursting the XL since ogres won't do eonugh DPS to force him to permarun it. Depends on his tank/torp/cap skills though, as well as his fit, which seem to be to all be terrible. If he doesn't have a web and ab though, you will still ab out of his scram range and be able to disengage, come back in a navy mega, and spank the sh*t out of him. Plated domi might work too, if he's a total idiot and you know how to cycle neuts. I've tried it before against golems, they will still have cap to boost (for some strange reason). Another option is, if he is a real man and agrees to do it at safespot - get into nanotar, warp to SS, drop sentries 50km off, set orbit, turn on mwd and scram, go afk. Alt tab back in sometimes to scoop up sentries and put them farther away. Really though, if he's saying a CNR is the ultimate solo ship, how hard can it be.
SPECKILLER	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:11:00 - [9] He might have a gistii x type x large booster and crystals... Either way you can still beat him easy if you pick on his weaknesses. Maybe a domi with full heavy nos, sensor damps and EM heavy drones or sentries as it will always be his lowest resist even if he has pith x type hardeners. If you can remove his ability to cause damage you have won half the battle. Break his ability to tank and hes screwed. To be honest ive never met a raven, cnr or not, that i could not crack wide open given the right tools.
Miss Xoco Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:16:00 - [10] If i cant beat him its probably true unless proven otherwhise. Apparently Drake and CNE are the most favored ships from EVE players and it got a reason. I always had in mind CNE is a awesome mission ship. Now that i hear that they even are "overhelming" PVP ships... shrug

Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:18:00 - [11] Edited by: Kail Storm on 07/11/2009 06:24:49 Cap is a good thing to fight yes but I think your best tool 1v1 would be ecm+Cap he cant shoot what he cant target and fof`s well u`d prob win. Get a awesome scorp fit and since you knw what specific ship hes using use 3-4 racial ECM`s lol along with 1 nuet, and 4 torps will wreck his day lol badly. Except his 27 Sensor Str but I wonder if ECM guys can tel us if it would still work well? If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:21:00 - [12] If he's using torps, say, explosive, with above average skills (but not all 5), with webber drones, you can expect 850-900 DPS. If you are not too busy making your mouth into an o shape as his explosive torps chew through armor like butter, you will be able to AB out of range and warp. If he fit anything to chase you, his tank blows. If he's not using faction exp torps, he's a tool and you will win a lot easier. If he's using cruises, fly whatever the hell you want. But if he's afraid of neuts, just nos him down and make him cry :)
Ecky X	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:23:00 - [13] He'll only last as long as his cap boosters.
Miss Xoco Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:24:00 - [14] Still lame that a T1 Domi could beat all the faction ships. Anyway, lets test it out.
SPECKILLER	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Miss Xoco Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 06:20:14 If i cant beat him its probably true unless proven otherwhise. Apparently Drake and CNE are the most favored ships from EVE players and it got a reason. I always had in mind CNE is a awesome mission ship. Now that i hear that they even are "overhelming" PVP ships... shrug OK well i will try to fit a NOS Dominix with different heavy drones, or as much as possible. Detailed hints on that fit are appreciated. lol... ravens are breakfast. Good for missions, inadequate for pvp. Obviously any ship fitted with billions in officer mods will be a tough nut but this is eve, nothing is invincible. Use ewar, kill his ability to tank, pop his drones and he is yours.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Miss Xoco Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 05:54:33 Ok people, i might need some help from very talented ship fitters. Some mate told me that he got a CNR and it will be almost unbeatable by anything else except ships not allowed in high sec. Is that true or not true? Who knows. Cant say every detail about his fit but the estimated fit from the CNR will contain: -X shield booster -Active general resist hardeners -Torpedos or cruise missiles -MWD scrambler, so MWD ships cant truly come close and use optimal range And the blue pill :) And the ships i could use against the insane powerman: -Vindicator and Navy Megathron -Machariel -Loki -Wolf and Jaguar Is there any fit possible to beat him? Or is the CNR truly the ruler? Good question. The ship might have a weakness against fast flying AB ships, but he will use webber drones i guess because his biggest weakness is the very slow speed. And he said im not allowed to use more than 1 Neut = whoot. Btw. Any modules but no officer modules. Help me to destroy the EVE powerman! Ok, i'll bite for non-troll, use a Tempest. 4 Heavy neuts, cycled on the target, you might not have room to fit anything but Dual 425's. 2x heavy cap booster t2 with navy 800 charges, fleeting warp disruptor - less cap usage, ship scanner - to check his cap level, and maybe a quad lif mwd just in case he's gay enough to come at range on you. dual lar setup, 3 armor hardeners - on exp/kin/thermal but i think he will do mostly kin, and an EANM II - yes ... i would go for greater resistances on armor than high resistance on hull. For drones, 2 heavy, 2 meds, 1 light - go for em damage on drones or thermal. If it's a Cruise CNR i don't think you should have any problems, if it's a Torp CNR, you might get ****d. Don't forget to constantly check his cap level with the ship scanner. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market !
Miss Xoco Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.11.07 06:38:00 - [17] Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 06:40:19 Deadly serious, i want to beat that ship. Because its not possible to have something impossible, right or wrong? Pretty sure he use Torpedo because Cruise isnt powerful enough.
Shitzen Giggles	Posted - 2009.11.07 07:22:00 - [18] Edited by: **zen Giggles on 07/11/2009 07:23:36 Originally by: Miss Xoco Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 06:50:00 Deadly serious, i want to beat that ship. Because its not possible to have something impossible, right or wrong? Pretty sure he use Torpedo because Cruise isnt powerful enough. Im pretty sure a Kronos using 3 Neuts will be his demise but that still wouldnt fit the "no more than 1 neut rule" and, i cant fly right now. The sad thing about a situation like this is he wants to limit your fitting options (only 1 neut) but I bet he is unwilling to fit tackle. At bare minimum he needs a warp disruptor, if he won't fit that, well then there is no way he can truly do a solo 1v1 pvp. In all honesty though that alone wouldn't really be enough as most ships could still pull range and disengage. So in my opinion he should have at least a point and either a web or prop mod. and with 2 mods taken up for that his tank isn't going to be that incredible. Of course if he is one of those guys who talks a big game and thinks he is unbeatable he probably won't see it that way and will expect someone to sit there and die or consider someone leaving the field as the same type of victory Edit: webber drones don't really count, they don't work that well and they should be the first things you pop.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.11.07 07:39:00 - [19] Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/11/2009 07:40:03 Originally by: Miss Xoco Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 06:50:00 Deadly serious, i want to beat that ship. Because its not possible to have something impossible, right or wrong? Pretty sure he use Torpedo because Cruise isnt powerful enough. Im pretty sure a Kronos using 3 Neuts will be his demise but that still wouldnt fit the "no more than 1 neut rule" and, i cant fly right now. So what other rules has he cooked up in order to crown himself ? Originally by: ***zen Giggles Edited by: ***zen Giggles on 07/11/2009 07:23:36 Originally by: Miss Xoco Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 06:50:00 Deadly serious, i want to beat that ship. Because its not possible to have something impossible, right or wrong? Pretty sure he use Torpedo because Cruise isnt powerful enough. Im pretty sure a Kronos using 3 Neuts will be his demise but that still wouldnt fit the "no more than 1 neut rule" and, i cant fly right now. The sad thing about a situation like this is he wants to limit your fitting options (only 1 neut) but I bet he is unwilling to fit tackle. At bare minimum he needs a warp disruptor, if he won't fit that, well then there is no way he can truly do a solo 1v1 pvp. In all honesty though that alone wouldn't really be enough as most ships could still pull range and disengage. So in my opinion he should have at least a point and either a web or prop mod. and with 2 mods taken up for that his tank isn't going to be that incredible. Of course if he is one of those guys who talks a big game and thinks he is unbeatable he probably won't see it that way and will expect someone to sit there and die or consider someone leaving the field as the same type of victory Edit: webber drones don't really count, they don't work that well and they should be the first things you pop. He mentioned he will have a scrambler to dictate range - my guess he's scared of blasters or something. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market !
Katarlia Simov Minmatar Cowboys From Hell	Posted - 2009.11.07 08:12:00 - [20] Despite what some people above have said a torp CNR does frikkin evil damage, and I wouldn't be hugely certain of a win in a neut domi. I'd go for am AB fit loki. Between speed, low sig and good resists, he won't be able to damage you much (EFT says less than 100 dps on you). Then kill all his drones, and slooooowly grind him down. At the very least he WON'T be able to kill you. ANd that should be enough to lol at him for the rest of his pvp career.

Sturmwolke	Posted - 2009.11.07 08:30:00 - [21] Originally by: Miss Xoco Pretty sure he use Torpedo because Cruise isnt powerful enough. Im pretty sure a Kronos using 3 Neuts will be his demise but that still wouldnt fit the "no more than 1 neut rule" and, i cant fly right now. Whats the problem? If he runs torps, an ABed HAC/T3 will eat him for breakfast (with 55%-87% damage reduction due to speed even if he uses painters), it's just a matter of time before his tank breaks, just keep pounding. If he manages to fit 2 painters or even a web, his tank will be fairly minimal. Now, if he manages to fit a heavy nuet into that build (which is highly unlikely without gimping a hvy cap booster), time your rep cycle if you're running active. Run a boost and rep cycle in between neuts, ideally using all your cap. At most he can fit is a med neut without encountering debilitating PG issues. If he's stupid enough not to fit any cap boosters, just about any neut equipped ship will kill him. Same story for the cruise fitted CNRs, sig and speed tank with AB and you get massive dmg reduction. If you're running buffer tanks, just make sure you have enough dps to kill him before your buffer runs out from the thousand paper cuts.
Lathlrilanq	Posted - 2009.11.07 08:57:00 - [22] Ok this may sound like a REALLY stupid idea but could you not fit a rook with 3 or 4 Caldari Jammers, since you know what your shooting at and it's a CNR ok so the DPS will suck but if he is active tanking surely you could wear him down eventually (killing drones first would be a good idea) is this fight taking place in a SS, is it prearranged or are you gonna try and jump him during a mission?
Daedricbob	Posted - 2009.11.07 09:03:00 - [23] Hope you kick his ass Xoco, you should use your old tournament winning, arty fitted shield tanked rifter from back in VR corp.
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.07 10:32:00 - [24] Tech 3 cruiser with an AB will tank him, then you just need whichever damage type that can do the most dmg against his tank to slowly whittle him down. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
Nikon D	Posted - 2009.11.07 11:17:00 - [25] Eat his Lunch Miss Xoco! If EVE has taught us anything, it' this one thing: Regardless how tough you THINK you are, Someone in EVE really IS that hard, and can take you out 1v1.
Jacob Holland Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries	Posted - 2009.11.07 12:13:00 - [26] Torp/Vamp Scorp. "This will not be over quickly, you will not enjoy this..." Permajam him, sit right on him, kill his drones and then just slowly chew away at him while he sits there totally impotent. He has the choice of dying or logging off. Either way he loses. -- Originally by: cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
honey bunchetta	Posted - 2009.11.07 12:33:00 - [27] A NOS domi is a good option as you can perma run your reppers to keep your cap empty so the NOS drains the crap out of him. You need to use common sense and understand cap managment for this kind of fighting but if you know how its a very effective 1 v 1 setup.
Cpt Branko The Scope	Posted - 2009.11.07 12:58:00 - [28] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/11/2009 13:00:47 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/11/2009 13:00:19 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/11/2009 12:59:29 Dominix tbh. Neut with talisman set. Rest nos, drain your own cap if you have to to get him to stop repping. Alternatively cheat and use a full rack of neuts. The 1 neut rule is stupid and unrealistic. I know for one I used to bring a 4 neut Typhoon whenever someone wanted to play games with a active tanked ship. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.11.07 13:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Jacob Holland Torp/Vamp Scorp. "This will not be over quickly, you will not enjoy this..." Permajam him, sit right on him, kill his drones and then just slowly chew away at him while he sits there totally impotent. He has the choice of dying or logging off. Either way he loses. He could use FOFs, if he does decide to use cruises, but it is not likely...
Mereden	Posted - 2009.11.07 13:23:00 - [30] Originally by: Lathlrilanq Ok this may sound like a REALLY stupid idea but could you not fit a rook with 3 or 4 Caldari Jammers, since you know what your shooting at and it's a CNR ok so the DPS will suck but if he is active tanking surely you could wear him down eventually (killing drones first would be a good idea) [Rook, LolRook] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Hobgoblin II x5 DPS seems quite decent actually, 570 with drones and without overheating or implants....



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