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          SirMolle 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:02:00 -
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          Today, i was approached by the general ISD divison.
  I'll let this speak for itself.
 
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  [17:10:22] Shrike > Yes? [17:11:05] Emilianne Bouteiller > Greetings Shrike. I am Emilianne Bouteiller of the ISD-IC. I was wondering if you could spare a few moments of your time to answer some questions about the recent goings on in Fountain [17:11:27] Shrike > I think that has been reported already by ISD once, or is this a followup? [17:11:40] Emilianne Bouteiller > This is a followup article [17:11:46] Shrike > Sure. [17:11:52] Emilianne Bouteiller > Thankyou [17:13:02] Emilianne Bouteiller > Firstly, Why did Evolution and BoB enter Fountain Alliance sovereign space, even after you were warned not to, and engaged FA ships? [17:13:20] Shrike > Excuse me? Who claims this? [17:14:14] Emilianne Bouteiller > Tornsoul, and we have copies of chatlogs in which BoB is asked to leave [17:15:14] Shrike > Since you are referring to logs, i need to know which logs. [17:15:30] Shrike > And with whom. [17:16:25] Emilianne Bouteiller > Local Chat between yourself, the lung187 and CrazyTom. It was in YZ-LQL and you claimed that you were"sightseeing" [17:17:04] Shrike > Thats the given asnwer to anyone who asks what we are doing anywhere unless its a official question. [17:17:36] Shrike > Which other logs are you referring to? Since you referred to several logs. [17:19:19] Emilianne Bouteiller > Well the other log refers to one reason made for the "sightseing tour". You claim that your Pilot, Shirak was murdered by the FA. But we have the logs which indicate that Shirak fired first and was killed in self defense [17:19:32] Emilianne Bouteiller > (Combat logs) [17:19:58] Shrike > We claimed Shirak was killed by a FA pilot. Whoever fired first, no clue. [17:22:13] Emilianne Bouteiller > You said in YZ-LQL: [ 2004.10.31 03:46:36 ] thelung187 > when has FA been anything less than completely hospitable towards Evol? [ 2004.10.31 03:47:33 ] Shrike > Since you killed 1 of our pilots in Outer ring about 1 hour ago. [17:22:17] Shrike > So, what is FA accusing us of? [17:23:33] Emilianne Bouteiller > The FA is accusing you of exploiting a situation of aggreession, which a pilot in your corporation started, to have an excuse to enter Fountain to provoke a war [17:37:47 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > No, the original article said that the FA killed Shirak without provokation. When the FA heard this they contacted us to say that it was in fact the Evolution pilot that fired first, which changed the percieved events entirely. So we are trying to get the truth of what happened [17:38:05 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > The FA is accusing you of exploiting a situation of aggreession, which a pilot in your corporation started, to have an excuse to enter Fountain to provoke a war [17:38:35 ] Shrike > Fact; FA killed one of our pilots. [17:38:46 ] Shrike > Fatc; We went in guns blazing. [17:38:55 ] Shrike > Fact; FA wants to spin this. [17:39:18 ] Shrike > Fact; FA are pproaching you to followup, hence you are taking side. [17:39:44 ] Shrike > Fact; FA agreed to the terms we stated to vacate our main force. [17:40:01 ] Shrike > Fact; FA Then rengeed the fact that one small wing was supposed to stay. [17:40:12 ] Shrike > Fact; Any FA EVOL sees will be killed. [17:40:55 ] Shrike > Fact; FA killed 1 frigate 1 pod, after we left the eare. [17:41:44 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > From that chain of events you are stating, you are saying you went in because shirak was killed. But if he fireed first how can you justify the retaliatory measures? [17:41:52 ] Shrike > Jesus [17:42:07 ] Shrike > He got killed by a FA pilot. [17:42:16 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > In self defense [17:42:19 ] Shrike > Means we go in guns blazing [17:43:17 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > So if someone kills one of your pilots in self defense they are in the wrong? [17:43:27 ] Shrike > Ill make it easy for you [17:43:32 ] Shrike > After all this has happened [17:43:35 ] Shrike > Ill say this [17:44:15 ] Shrike > We do not recognize FA as a entity, we do not recognize FA's claim to Fountain, we do not recognize FA*s claim to qeurios or Delve stations. [17:44:58 ] Shrike > FA is NOW, our enemy, and we WILL engage them. When and where we choose. [17:46:14 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > Is the only reason for this the fact that they killed one of your pilots? You were a co-founding member of the FA, so whyare you now refusing to recognise them?  [17:46:39 ] Shrike > After all this has happened, we do no longer recognize anything from FA. [17:47:21 ] Shrike > They could have been satisfied with what went down and left it at that, apparantly and obviously they are not, and this contacting you to shift blaim, is a PR thing. [17:47:31 ] Shrike > Since they are not, hey, we'll go all out. [17:47:58 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > So this isn't over? Do you plan to invade again? [17:48:47 ] Shrike > Its clear that FA doesnt want it to be over.
 
 
 
 
 
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          SirMolle 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:02:00 -
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          Today, i was approached by the general ISD divison.
  I'll let this speak for itself.
 
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  [17:10:22] Shrike > Yes? [17:11:05] Emilianne Bouteiller > Greetings Shrike. I am Emilianne Bouteiller of the ISD-IC. I was wondering if you could spare a few moments of your time to answer some questions about the recent goings on in Fountain [17:11:27] Shrike > I think that has been reported already by ISD once, or is this a followup? [17:11:40] Emilianne Bouteiller > This is a followup article [17:11:46] Shrike > Sure. [17:11:52] Emilianne Bouteiller > Thankyou [17:13:02] Emilianne Bouteiller > Firstly, Why did Evolution and BoB enter Fountain Alliance sovereign space, even after you were warned not to, and engaged FA ships? [17:13:20] Shrike > Excuse me? Who claims this? [17:14:14] Emilianne Bouteiller > Tornsoul, and we have copies of chatlogs in which BoB is asked to leave [17:15:14] Shrike > Since you are referring to logs, i need to know which logs. [17:15:30] Shrike > And with whom. [17:16:25] Emilianne Bouteiller > Local Chat between yourself, the lung187 and CrazyTom. It was in YZ-LQL and you claimed that you were"sightseeing" [17:17:04] Shrike > Thats the given asnwer to anyone who asks what we are doing anywhere unless its a official question. [17:17:36] Shrike > Which other logs are you referring to? Since you referred to several logs. [17:19:19] Emilianne Bouteiller > Well the other log refers to one reason made for the "sightseing tour". You claim that your Pilot, Shirak was murdered by the FA. But we have the logs which indicate that Shirak fired first and was killed in self defense [17:19:32] Emilianne Bouteiller > (Combat logs) [17:19:58] Shrike > We claimed Shirak was killed by a FA pilot. Whoever fired first, no clue. [17:22:13] Emilianne Bouteiller > You said in YZ-LQL: [ 2004.10.31 03:46:36 ] thelung187 > when has FA been anything less than completely hospitable towards Evol? [ 2004.10.31 03:47:33 ] Shrike > Since you killed 1 of our pilots in Outer ring about 1 hour ago. [17:22:17] Shrike > So, what is FA accusing us of? [17:23:33] Emilianne Bouteiller > The FA is accusing you of exploiting a situation of aggreession, which a pilot in your corporation started, to have an excuse to enter Fountain to provoke a war [17:37:47 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > No, the original article said that the FA killed Shirak without provokation. When the FA heard this they contacted us to say that it was in fact the Evolution pilot that fired first, which changed the percieved events entirely. So we are trying to get the truth of what happened [17:38:05 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > The FA is accusing you of exploiting a situation of aggreession, which a pilot in your corporation started, to have an excuse to enter Fountain to provoke a war [17:38:35 ] Shrike > Fact; FA killed one of our pilots. [17:38:46 ] Shrike > Fatc; We went in guns blazing. [17:38:55 ] Shrike > Fact; FA wants to spin this. [17:39:18 ] Shrike > Fact; FA are pproaching you to followup, hence you are taking side. [17:39:44 ] Shrike > Fact; FA agreed to the terms we stated to vacate our main force. [17:40:01 ] Shrike > Fact; FA Then rengeed the fact that one small wing was supposed to stay. [17:40:12 ] Shrike > Fact; Any FA EVOL sees will be killed. [17:40:55 ] Shrike > Fact; FA killed 1 frigate 1 pod, after we left the eare. [17:41:44 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > From that chain of events you are stating, you are saying you went in because shirak was killed. But if he fireed first how can you justify the retaliatory measures? [17:41:52 ] Shrike > Jesus [17:42:07 ] Shrike > He got killed by a FA pilot. [17:42:16 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > In self defense [17:42:19 ] Shrike > Means we go in guns blazing [17:43:17 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > So if someone kills one of your pilots in self defense they are in the wrong? [17:43:27 ] Shrike > Ill make it easy for you [17:43:32 ] Shrike > After all this has happened [17:43:35 ] Shrike > Ill say this [17:44:15 ] Shrike > We do not recognize FA as a entity, we do not recognize FA's claim to Fountain, we do not recognize FA*s claim to qeurios or Delve stations. [17:44:58 ] Shrike > FA is NOW, our enemy, and we WILL engage them. When and where we choose. [17:46:14 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > Is the only reason for this the fact that they killed one of your pilots? You were a co-founding member of the FA, so whyare you now refusing to recognise them?  [17:46:39 ] Shrike > After all this has happened, we do no longer recognize anything from FA. [17:47:21 ] Shrike > They could have been satisfied with what went down and left it at that, apparantly and obviously they are not, and this contacting you to shift blaim, is a PR thing. [17:47:31 ] Shrike > Since they are not, hey, we'll go all out. [17:47:58 ] Emilianne Bouteiller > So this isn't over? Do you plan to invade again? [17:48:47 ] Shrike > Its clear that FA doesnt want it to be over.
 
 
 
 
 
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          SirMolle 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:04:00 -
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          My reply to this is simple, and i'll quote one of our members;
 
   Quote: [19:00] <RinnyWee> wtf [19:00] <RinnyWee> that's not ******* reporting [19:01] <RinnyWee> that's third class espionage and info gathering for FA and my son could do better than that
 
 
 
 
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          SirMolle 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:04:00 -
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          My reply to this is simple, and i'll quote one of our members;
 
   Quote: [19:00] <RinnyWee> wtf [19:00] <RinnyWee> that's not ******* reporting [19:01] <RinnyWee> that's third class espionage and info gathering for FA and my son could do better than that
 
 
 
 
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          Soulsucker 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:08:00 -
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          hello im an alt.
  I guess FA want evol to bend over now.  
 
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          Soulsucker 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:08:00 -
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          hello im an alt.
  I guess FA want evol to bend over now.  
 
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          Bacchuss 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:10:00 -
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          i got 20 bucks on evol kicking fa's ass
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          Bacchuss 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:10:00 -
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          i got 20 bucks on evol kicking fa's ass
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          dimensionZ 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:13:00 -
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          Errr, ISD defending FA ? Now thats interesting ....
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          dimensionZ 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:13:00 -
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          Errr, ISD defending FA ? Now thats interesting ....
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          DREAMWORKS 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:14:00 -
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            Originally by: Bacchuss i got 20 bucks on evol kicking fa's ass
 
  I got 20 bucks on an Evol member DDOS'ing FA teamsp... oopsie did said that? __________________________
 
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          DREAMWORKS 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:14:00 -
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            Originally by: Bacchuss i got 20 bucks on evol kicking fa's ass
 
  I got 20 bucks on an Evol member DDOS'ing FA teamsp... oopsie did said that? __________________________
 
  http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html | 
      
      
      
          
          Soren 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:15:00 -
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          Have fun  
  FA needs some toughening up anyways. _________________________________________________________
 
 
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          Soren 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:15:00 -
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          Have fun  
  FA needs some toughening up anyways. _________________________________________________________
 
 
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          Dafuzz 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:17:00 -
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          Yes, this is interesting. 
  Good luck sorting this one out. --
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          Dafuzz 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:17:00 -
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          Yes, this is interesting. 
  Good luck sorting this one out. --
  -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. | 
      
      
      
          
          geffen 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:17:00 -
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          you send one guy in to start hostilities and then claim you were wronged? lmao
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          geffen 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:17:00 -
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          you send one guy in to start hostilities and then claim you were wronged? lmao
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          Svabbi k 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:18:00 -
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          mmmm interesting.....  
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          Svabbi k 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:18:00 -
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          mmmm interesting.....  
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          fugazii 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:22:00 -
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          so let me get this straight ur ****ed cuz one of ur guys engaged a fa guy got pwned and ur ****ed cuz ur guy was to much ofa noob to kill him? wtf, now im no supporter of fa but why use that as a reason to invade, it makes u guys look like for a lack of a better word, complete and utter dumbasses. it would make u guys look alot better to jst come out and say "we dont like u, so u die now." w/that excuse u wouldnt even hav to admit that a member of ur corp got pwned by a fa guy (<---shame in itself ).
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          fugazii 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:22:00 -
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          so let me get this straight ur ****ed cuz one of ur guys engaged a fa guy got pwned and ur ****ed cuz ur guy was to much ofa noob to kill him? wtf, now im no supporter of fa but why use that as a reason to invade, it makes u guys look like for a lack of a better word, complete and utter dumbasses. it would make u guys look alot better to jst come out and say "we dont like u, so u die now." w/that excuse u wouldnt even hav to admit that a member of ur corp got pwned by a fa guy (<---shame in itself ).
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          Molaorim Phenaki 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:36:00 -
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          Edited by: Molaorim Phenaki on 04/11/2004 18:39:06 the truth is out  
  molle, you shouldn't whine when it was you who lied   <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? | 
      
      
      
          
          Molaorim Phenaki 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:36:00 -
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          Edited by: Molaorim Phenaki on 04/11/2004 18:39:06 the truth is out  
  molle, you shouldn't whine when it was you who lied   <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? | 
      
      
      
          
          slothe 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:40:00 -
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          Question - who shot who first?
  just out of interest
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          slothe 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:40:00 -
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          Question - who shot who first?
  just out of interest
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          Daakkon 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:46:00 -
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          k...
 
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          Daakkon 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:46:00 -
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          k...
 
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          Molaorim Phenaki 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:46:00 -
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            Originally by: slothe Question - who shot who first?
  just out of interest
 
  i think molle pretty much owned up. evol shot fa first. <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? | 
      
      
      
          
          Molaorim Phenaki 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.11.04 18:46:00 -
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            Originally by: slothe Question - who shot who first?
  just out of interest
 
  i think molle pretty much owned up. evol shot fa first. <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? | 
      
      
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