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Benjamin Kekkonen
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Posted - 2004.11.05 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Benjamin Kekkonen on 05/11/2004 04:14:30 Friggin A... Just defend something of shut up. Don't whine.
Whinage
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Benjamin Kekkonen
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Posted - 2004.11.05 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Benjamin Kekkonen on 05/11/2004 04:14:30 Friggin A... Just defend something of shut up. Don't whine.
Whinage
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.11.05 05:05:00 -
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and *****ing bout someone else *****ing is ok? hypocrite mmkay?
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.11.05 05:05:00 -
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and *****ing bout someone else *****ing is ok? hypocrite mmkay?
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.05 05:38:00 -
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the thing that really ticks me off are all those noobs that think we should take a sec hit for fighting in 0.0 and since the GM's have a happit of listening to the carebear rather than the PvP'er it will probably happen...
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.05 05:38:00 -
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the thing that really ticks me off are all those noobs that think we should take a sec hit for fighting in 0.0 and since the GM's have a happit of listening to the carebear rather than the PvP'er it will probably happen...
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.05 06:00:00 -
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If I start taking a sec hit in 0.0 for shooting people then I think I'll try that one career path that I've always avoided... I wonder if Tundragons are recruiting?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.05 06:00:00 -
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If I start taking a sec hit in 0.0 for shooting people then I think I'll try that one career path that I've always avoided... I wonder if Tundragons are recruiting?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:23:00 -
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Im in a NPC corp and I understand if people shoot me in 0.0 space because if they dont shoot me I might shoot them as they dont know if Im hostile, neutral or friendly as I have no corp reputation for them to know which of them I am so I would understand If they shot first and asked questions later.
The whole point of 0.0 space is that you dont take any sec hits in it no matter what you do, so if CCP change that the whole game mechanic will be destroyed.
You shouldnt really whine about other people whining though.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:23:00 -
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Im in a NPC corp and I understand if people shoot me in 0.0 space because if they dont shoot me I might shoot them as they dont know if Im hostile, neutral or friendly as I have no corp reputation for them to know which of them I am so I would understand If they shot first and asked questions later.
The whole point of 0.0 space is that you dont take any sec hits in it no matter what you do, so if CCP change that the whole game mechanic will be destroyed.
You shouldnt really whine about other people whining though.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 05/11/2004 10:34:45 All I'm tired off is NPC corp members being able to post.
The alt train has reached new records the last few days with the FA thing going down.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 05/11/2004 10:34:45 All I'm tired off is NPC corp members being able to post.
The alt train has reached new records the last few days with the FA thing going down.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:39:00 -
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Thing is Im a main not an alt.
Since I posted on the boards with my main and refused to stop I was asked to leave FA or be kicked and I cant be arsed to find another PC corp.
Alot of FA players are afraid of that too so they post with alts but that works against FA as everyone knows that its FAs posting drival but FA dont know who is who and cant get members to correct what they say or stop digging the hole FA are in.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:39:00 -
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Thing is Im a main not an alt.
Since I posted on the boards with my main and refused to stop I was asked to leave FA or be kicked and I cant be arsed to find another PC corp.
Alot of FA players are afraid of that too so they post with alts but that works against FA as everyone knows that its FAs posting drival but FA dont know who is who and cant get members to correct what they say or stop digging the hole FA are in.
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Molaorim Phenaki
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy Thing is Im a main not an alt.
Since I posted on the boards with my main and refused to stop I was asked to leave FA or be kicked and I cant be arsed to find another PC corp.
Alot of FA players are afraid of that too so they post with alts but that works against FA as everyone knows that its FAs posting drival but FA dont know who is who and cant get members to correct what they say or stop digging the hole FA are in.
i thought you were an evol alt  <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? |

Molaorim Phenaki
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy Thing is Im a main not an alt.
Since I posted on the boards with my main and refused to stop I was asked to leave FA or be kicked and I cant be arsed to find another PC corp.
Alot of FA players are afraid of that too so they post with alts but that works against FA as everyone knows that its FAs posting drival but FA dont know who is who and cant get members to correct what they say or stop digging the hole FA are in.
i thought you were an evol alt  <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? |

Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Molaorim Phenaki
Originally by: Jiggy Thing is Im a main not an alt.
Since I posted on the boards with my main and refused to stop I was asked to leave FA or be kicked and I cant be arsed to find another PC corp.
Alot of FA players are afraid of that too so they post with alts but that works against FA as everyone knows that its FAs posting drival but FA dont know who is who and cant get members to correct what they say or stop digging the hole FA are in.
i thought you were an evol alt 
Yes an Evol alt that has been in both the shattered star confederation and aggressive faction defense technologies 
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Molaorim Phenaki
Originally by: Jiggy Thing is Im a main not an alt.
Since I posted on the boards with my main and refused to stop I was asked to leave FA or be kicked and I cant be arsed to find another PC corp.
Alot of FA players are afraid of that too so they post with alts but that works against FA as everyone knows that its FAs posting drival but FA dont know who is who and cant get members to correct what they say or stop digging the hole FA are in.
i thought you were an evol alt 
Yes an Evol alt that has been in both the shattered star confederation and aggressive faction defense technologies 
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:53:00 -
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The trouble is, you can't stop alts from posting, as there are a few people who do actually use all their character slots for legitimate purposes, and you'll make them all upset and huffy.
Also, you cannot link all the characters on an account, as this would destroy the whole principle of alts, and even more people will get upset and huffy.
And you can't ban NPC corp pilots from posting, as all the solo/unfriendly/wierd/carebeary/piratey/alliance alt/whatever pilots will get upset and, of course, huffy.
All we can really do is know that the guys that post this sort of crap on their alts haven't got the ********* to post on their mains, either because their corp/alliance leaders have them totally under the thumb, or that they have no spine.
Normally, because of the thread topic, it's very easy to distinguish between the types. .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:53:00 -
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The trouble is, you can't stop alts from posting, as there are a few people who do actually use all their character slots for legitimate purposes, and you'll make them all upset and huffy.
Also, you cannot link all the characters on an account, as this would destroy the whole principle of alts, and even more people will get upset and huffy.
And you can't ban NPC corp pilots from posting, as all the solo/unfriendly/wierd/carebeary/piratey/alliance alt/whatever pilots will get upset and, of course, huffy.
All we can really do is know that the guys that post this sort of crap on their alts haven't got the ********* to post on their mains, either because their corp/alliance leaders have them totally under the thumb, or that they have no spine.
Normally, because of the thread topic, it's very easy to distinguish between the types. .
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy Im in a NPC corp and I understand if people shoot me in 0.0 space because if they dont shoot me I might shoot them as they dont know if Im hostile, neutral or friendly as I have no corp reputation for them to know which of them I am so I would understand If they shot first and asked questions later.
The whole point of 0.0 space is that you dont take any sec hits in it no matter what you do, so if CCP change that the whole game mechanic will be destroyed.
You shouldnt really whine about other people whining though.
Its a matter of tresspassing really. You go into (ex.) Curse space with your alt, you arent listed as CA member, so you die.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy Im in a NPC corp and I understand if people shoot me in 0.0 space because if they dont shoot me I might shoot them as they dont know if Im hostile, neutral or friendly as I have no corp reputation for them to know which of them I am so I would understand If they shot first and asked questions later.
The whole point of 0.0 space is that you dont take any sec hits in it no matter what you do, so if CCP change that the whole game mechanic will be destroyed.
You shouldnt really whine about other people whining though.
Its a matter of tresspassing really. You go into (ex.) Curse space with your alt, you arent listed as CA member, so you die.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:04:00 -
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Okay, a few points with regard to some of the things posted here.
The 0.0 debate was over the merits of whether it would help promote a distinction between alliance space, alliance wars and piracy in free-for-all 0.0 space. Many people traded good view points from both sides. Please don't be so obtuse as to stereotype it as 'Noob' or 'Carebear' whining, it was neither.
Sadly, this seems often the only thing certain 0.0 alliances members seem to say when anyone suggests any type of change at all to 0.0 or pvp, considering the points and rebutting them logically is something few seem to bother with.
It is their inability to use polite, restrained and intelligent discussion that has led to the use of alts on these forums, not new players in NPC corps.
Particular highlights from my own experience include members of my own alliance claiming I'm an alt in response to my own post explaining why I'd left and was now in an NPC corp. 
Plus a response from a member of my former alliance when chiming in on what had been a civil debate, telling me that I should 'crawl back under my rock and die'. 
Preventing new players in NPC corps from posting on the forums just because some alliance players can't get get beyond playground name calling and pushing and shoving would be shortsighted to say the least.
If these forums are garbage it is because the alliances members themselves have made it so.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:04:00 -
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Okay, a few points with regard to some of the things posted here.
The 0.0 debate was over the merits of whether it would help promote a distinction between alliance space, alliance wars and piracy in free-for-all 0.0 space. Many people traded good view points from both sides. Please don't be so obtuse as to stereotype it as 'Noob' or 'Carebear' whining, it was neither.
Sadly, this seems often the only thing certain 0.0 alliances members seem to say when anyone suggests any type of change at all to 0.0 or pvp, considering the points and rebutting them logically is something few seem to bother with.
It is their inability to use polite, restrained and intelligent discussion that has led to the use of alts on these forums, not new players in NPC corps.
Particular highlights from my own experience include members of my own alliance claiming I'm an alt in response to my own post explaining why I'd left and was now in an NPC corp. 
Plus a response from a member of my former alliance when chiming in on what had been a civil debate, telling me that I should 'crawl back under my rock and die'. 
Preventing new players in NPC corps from posting on the forums just because some alliance players can't get get beyond playground name calling and pushing and shoving would be shortsighted to say the least.
If these forums are garbage it is because the alliances members themselves have made it so.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:14:42 Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:10:23
Originally by: drunkenmaster And you can't ban NPC corp pilots from posting, as all the solo/unfriendly/wierd/carebeary/piratey/alliance alt/whatever pilots will get upset and, of course, huffy.
Not generally, no. This specific forum (Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions)? I think that'd be good.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:14:42 Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:10:23
Originally by: drunkenmaster And you can't ban NPC corp pilots from posting, as all the solo/unfriendly/wierd/carebeary/piratey/alliance alt/whatever pilots will get upset and, of course, huffy.
Not generally, no. This specific forum (Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions)? I think that'd be good.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:14:42 Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:10:23
Originally by: drunkenmaster And you can't ban NPC corp pilots from posting, as all the solo/unfriendly/wierd/carebeary/piratey/alliance alt/whatever pilots will get upset and, of course, huffy.
Not generally, no. This specific forum (Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions)? I think that'd be good.
It would be a start. But so many people have multiple accounts now, that they'd just set an alt on their secondary (tertiary) account as a main char, and just continue posting alt-drivel with that. .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:14:42 Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 12:10:23
Originally by: drunkenmaster And you can't ban NPC corp pilots from posting, as all the solo/unfriendly/wierd/carebeary/piratey/alliance alt/whatever pilots will get upset and, of course, huffy.
Not generally, no. This specific forum (Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions)? I think that'd be good.
It would be a start. But so many people have multiple accounts now, that they'd just set an alt on their secondary (tertiary) account as a main char, and just continue posting alt-drivel with that. .
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Zel0ta
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Posted - 2004.11.05 18:21:00 -
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its ok guys
just so you know it its ok then we cant go up there and buy there stuff witch they so o rip us off on.All 0.0 people shuld stop buying goods of fa and empire people caus they are some what conected to etchother(fa alts) i am zels alt I havent slept for 32 HOURS NOW but im on my pills BUT 32 HOURS WOHOO im doing.....GREAT! |

Zel0ta
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Posted - 2004.11.05 18:21:00 -
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its ok guys
just so you know it its ok then we cant go up there and buy there stuff witch they so o rip us off on.All 0.0 people shuld stop buying goods of fa and empire people caus they are some what conected to etchother(fa alts) i am zels alt I havent slept for 32 HOURS NOW but im on my pills BUT 32 HOURS WOHOO im doing.....GREAT! |
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